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Is anyone doing the Abs Diet?

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Walt Lewis - 03 Jun 2004 13:25 GMT
After a great deal of success with Atkins I have hit that last 10-15
pound wall. While in the book store I came across The Abs Diet from
Mens Health and thought I'd see what they had to offer.

After reading it and re-reading parts of it, I still have a number of
questions.

Any one else using the WOE?

Walt
Ignoramus23878 - 03 Jun 2004 13:56 GMT
> After a great deal of success with Atkins I have hit that last 10-15
> pound wall. While in the book store I came across The Abs Diet from
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>
> Any one else using the WOE?

What is it about? Just curious.

``Eat everything. Concentrate on whole grains. Drink milk. Balance
protein with carbohydrates. Avoid processed sugars. Do some
exercise. The idea that a diet book making such proposals comes as a
pleasant surprise shows just how far afield we've gone in the search
for new ways to be fit. The only thing new about this diet by the
editor-in-chief of Men's Health is its name, and this, one can
presume, is because nowadays, a book simply called "Sensible Eating"
wouldn't sell. The book's title is indeed misleading; only the final
chapter deals solely with abs. The rest is full of rational
recommendations for a realistic diet plan: eat more and smaller meals;
have oatmeal in the morning for a nourishing breakfast; don't starve
yourself; drink plenty of water; and stay away from sodas and foods
that contain high-fructose corn syrup. Whether readers will, in the
end, walk away with abs of steel is not really the point. They'll
control their weight in a healthy way, without counting calories,
cutting out whole food groups or supporting the beef futures
market. Best of all, this book tells readers why it works: increase
your body's metabolism, gain some muscle and fat burns away. The
authors make this seem like a fresh and very attainable ideal.''

this and a promise of a sixpack in six weeks make me a little bit
cautious... Sounds like a lot of promises for a difficult to reach
goal.

i
Patricia Heil - 03 Jun 2004 17:27 GMT
> After a great deal of success with Atkins I have hit that last 10-15
> pound wall. While in the book store I came across The Abs Diet from
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>
> Walt

No.  Plateaus are best relieved by exercise.  You were exercising right?
Then bump up your program.
Doug Freyburger - 04 Jun 2004 17:11 GMT
> After a great deal of success with Atkins I have hit that last 10-15
> pound wall.

Look very closely on how you selected your goal.  Atkins won't
take folks below their objective ideal weight and it is *very*
easy to select a goal weight below that.  For example insurance
tables usually run 10 too low so if you used an insurance
table to select your goal then you're already at your ideal
weight.  It takes low calorie to go lower, but it that worth
it given that it takes staying low-cal forever to stay forever
under your ideal weight?

Also note that the last 10 are supposed to take a year so if
your rate fell to 1 per month you were still actually doing
fine.  You can increase your loss rate by going low calorie but
at the potential price of needing a permanent reduction to
maintain.

Anyways it is very worth a careful inspection of your average
caloric intake after a loss because weighing less means you
now need less calories.  If you're still eating the same total
portions after losing, adjusting in proportion to your loss may
be all you need.

Sorry, can't help you on the Abs Diet.
Ignoramus32760 - 04 Jun 2004 17:23 GMT
>> After a great deal of success with Atkins I have hit that last 10-15
>> pound wall.
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> table to select your goal then you're already at your ideal
> weight.

Do you have any evidence for this? I am at normal weight, with modest
weight loss goals for this year and am interested in this subject.

> It takes low calorie to go lower, but it that worth
> it given that it takes staying low-cal forever to stay forever
> under your ideal weight?

Yes, according to the proponents of calorie restriction theory:

www.calorierestriction.org

> Also note that the last 10 are supposed to take a year so if
> your rate fell to 1 per month you were still actually doing
> fine.  You can increase your loss rate by going low calorie but
> at the potential price of needing a permanent reduction to
> maintain.

I completely agree, and my plan for 2004 is to lose 10 lbs in the
whole year.

> Anyways it is very worth a careful inspection of your average
> caloric intake after a loss because weighing less means you
> now need less calories.

Maybe a lot less calories, because metabolism does slow down, which I
do not consider a bad thing.

i
 
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