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susanjoneslewis - 04 Jun 2004 05:19 GMT
I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
2 lbs, I am bloated, bitchy, exhausted, lower back pain that is beyond
normal, tomorrow I know I will be on the sofa the majority of the day
with cramps and headache. Not to mention I am beyond irritable with my
family(I hate them sometimes..ya know?) - They actually left the house
tonight because I am such a mental case - crying and snappy..I'm having
to wear 2 pads and a tampon (super) and am changing them every hour and
a half. I had none of this when I was at much higher weight.

Anyone else experiencing this crap since losing weight? or is it just
me? I haven't gotten my insurance coverage yet from my job, so no gyn
visit. See yall in a week or so when I become human again.

Susan
260/192/140
Chris Braun - 04 Jun 2004 07:51 GMT
>I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
>month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
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>Susan
>260/192/140

Susan, I've forgotten if you've said how old you are ever.  Is it
possible you're beginning perimenopause.  The heavier periods and
worse cramps are common symptoms.

Chris (been there, done that)
EEC - 04 Jun 2004 14:02 GMT
> >I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
> >month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Chris (been there, done that)

I agree with Chris.  Everything about that delightful experience intensified
to the point of insanity the older I got (starting in my middle 40's).  The
two things that helped me were, unfortunately, prescriptions for two other
ailments....celebrex, I take for my knees, and Prozac I take for OCD, but
they helped PMS and cramps immensely.   I am now 53, as of yesterday : ),
and still as regular as I was at 23!  But, these two meds helped immensely.
I keep hoping one day I will actually grow up and leave these problems
behind!  Good luck.  Elise
Chris Braun - 04 Jun 2004 14:16 GMT
>I agree with Chris.  Everything about that delightful experience intensified
>to the point of insanity the older I got (starting in my middle 40's).  The
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>I keep hoping one day I will actually grow up and leave these problems
>behind!  Good luck.  Elise

Happy belated birthday, Elise!  Why didn't you tell us???

I had a relatively short perimenopause.  It also started in my mid
40s, but by 49 or 50 I was completely done having periods.  Don't miss
it a bit :-).

Chris
Lisa Slavik - 04 Jun 2004 18:22 GMT
Oh dammit, say it ain't so...it gets worse before its over?....I was
hoping that it was the reverse...your TOM starts fading away until it's
all gone...I suffered horribly as a teenager. I'd spend the first day
home from school with a bucket near me at all times.  I was prescribed
Darvocet the big orange horse pills and finally put on the BC pill to
control my periods. But in the last two years....sheesh I have my TOM
for two days if I am lucky...I just turned 41 a couple of weeks ago so I
just assumed that the end is near.

Love, Laughter, and Friendship,

Lisa
www.beautycafe.com

>>I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
>>month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Chris (been there, done that)
jayjay - 04 Jun 2004 18:37 GMT
>Oh dammit, say it ain't so...it gets worse before its over?....I was
>hoping that it was the reverse...your TOM starts fading away until it's
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Love, Laughter, and Friendship,

I suffered like that as a teen too.   And then my doc told me in my
early 20's that it would go away after having kids.   Well, let me
tell you, NO IT DIDN'T.    BC pills at least made it more regular and
I could schedule it.   When I first divorced and was single again, I
was able to alter my BC pills to get my Tom to start on the Saturday
of a weekend that my son was with his father.   That way I'd spend the
entire weekend home alone in bed, with hopes that as of Monday morning
I would feel human enough to go to work and only had the bleeding to
deal with, but the headaches, nausea and cramping would have subsided
enough that I could handle life.

Then I finally found the depo shot, and let me tell you, its been a
lifesafer in that respect.
SnugBear - 05 Jun 2004 20:15 GMT
> Oh dammit, say it ain't so...it gets worse before its over?....I was
> hoping that it was the reverse...your TOM starts fading away until it's
> all gone.

Not with a whimper - but a bang! lol

Of course, YMMV

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SnugBear - 05 Jun 2004 20:14 GMT
> Susan, I've forgotten if you've said how old you are ever.  Is it
> possible you're beginning perimenopause.  The heavier periods and
> worse cramps are common symptoms.

Ditto Chris

My periods were much heavier for the 2 years before they stopped (3 years
ago - I started early at 11 and got finished early) except I was rarely
moody and never really had cramps.

Imagine what fun it was while I was camping out watching them bulid my
house for 3 months?  When the plumber flushed my toilet for the first
time, I nearly kissed him on the mouth ;-)

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Alex - 04 Jun 2004 15:57 GMT
>I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
>month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Susan
>260/192/140

Susan,

I have done some reading about hormones and fat cells, because I was
experiencing very heavy periods before losing weight. I am taking an
herbal supplement now (for the last month) and progesterone cream as
well, even though I'm not perimenopausal at all.

My take on what I have read is that fat cells have an effect on excess
estrogen, as in they dictate how much estrogen is released and at what
times. Don't quote me, but I think there is also a component of fat
cells storing some excess estrogen. So if you're losing, perhaps you
are releasing more estrogen into your system, hence the heavy periods
and PMS.

I would try progesterone cream, and when you get a chance to get to
the gyn, if your insurance covers, have them do an estrogen test so
you know which aspects you are potentially high in.

These things worked for me and I have been estrogen dominant for
years. It was when my face started breaking out like a teenager that I
finally did something about it! Oh -- curious -- do you tend to bruise
easily?

Ally
212/184/160
byakee - 04 Jun 2004 18:12 GMT
Hark! I heard "susanjoneslewis" <susanjoneslewis@sbcglobal.net> say:

> I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN
> (4th month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period.

<snip>

I'm sorry, Susan -- I hope you feel better! I had a complete
hysterectomy at age 37, so I don't really deal with this stuff
anymore, other than trying to bring down my Premarin dosage...

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Auntie Em - 05 Jun 2004 00:09 GMT
> I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
> month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> me? I haven't gotten my insurance coverage yet from my job, so no gyn
> visit. See yall in a week or so when I become human again.

Gosh Susan, if I were having *that* much trouble I would definitely do
something about it.  You didn't mention your reproductive status, so if you
are not opposed to birth control, I would seriously recommend Depo Provera.
It is the most wonderful stuff in the world for getting rid of periods.
However, one nasty side effect is weight gain (no win situation).  I guess
it is a matter of choosing the lesser of two evils.

Em
JMA - 07 Jun 2004 00:00 GMT
> > I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
> > month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Em

Depo doesn't always work in getting rid of periods.  I had mine for 3 months
(continuously) while on depo.
Angie - 08 Jun 2004 21:48 GMT
yes and there is a greater chance that you can get pregnant on it as well.
girl friend of mine was on it and not to long after found out she was
pregnant with her daughter, i was on it as well and got the scare that i
might have been pregnant as well if you go on or are on it, and aren't ready
for a family be careful the girl that i knew that got pregnant on it didn't
know until three months into the pregnancy that she even was

> > > I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
> > > month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
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> Depo doesn't always work in getting rid of periods.  I had mine for 3 months
> (continuously) while on depo.
?fooguy? - 07 Jun 2004 05:53 GMT
> > I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
> > month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Em

Forgive the guy jumping in here, but you have to be careful with Depo.
I know several women who were using it and ended up needing to have a
DNC because the lining built up so much it became infected. Eventually
you do need to expel it.

For a man (who isn't a doctor), I know *way* too much about the
gynocological workings of women -- maybe it's because I took biology
so many times, maybe it's because problems run in my family (cysts,
endometriosis) or that I know several women with problems. The
menstral cycle is a very delicate thing, it's hormones triggering
hormones, which is unlike any other "regulated" biological function in
humans. When one drops off, another picks up, but if the timing or the
levels are slightly off things get out of whack. I've been meaning to
look at Susann Sommer's new book (I caught her interview on Larry
King).

To the OP: go to a free clinic, call a gyno, make an appointment, and
tell them you don't have insurance. They won't refuse you care, a
doctor visit will probably be less than $100 (and if you need meds
they probably have samples until your insurance kicks in). You can pay
$10 a month until the bill is gone, but please go get it looked it.
What's going on is irregular.
susanjoneslewis - 07 Jun 2004 20:40 GMT
Well to sorta tie up this whole discussion..
(chris question) I'm 36

I am not currently on any birth control at all, the depo sorta scares me
and Mark has a vasectomy anyhow. I've taken the pill over the years off
and on between children (I have 2, 14 and 11) I never had any real
trouble with the pill and may go back to that if it will level out my
periods. I did have a Norplant implant after my son was born but after
about a year the side effects(weight, hairloss etc) were so annoying
that I had it removed. As far as going to a gyno, I do not have health
coverage right now (job change and waiting on benefits) So I contacted
the state Health Dept/Family Planning and have scheduled to get a pap
and discuss the situation of my periods next Thursday, I will let ya'll
know the outcome.

I am also going to ask about a blood workup and see if I am low iron. I
suspect I am and if so I need to learn to compensate somewhere in my
diet for that, iron supps don't really appeal to me. If getting back on
the pill doesn't help with the mental end of things for the PMS I am
going to go wait for my health insurance to kick in and see someone
about anti depressants(for those that don't remember, I have Dysthymia
and made the decision to manage it with some(last year) therapy, changes
in my eating and exercise instead of meds. Info can be found here
http://www.allaboutdepression.com/dia_04.html ) . I hate the idea of
going on long term meds of any type. I have felt confident in my WOE and
exercise for almost a year now that I can manage this without meds.
Maybe I have underestimated myself in this respect.

As far as my hell week of period. I ended up spending 2 days on the sofa
with the heating pad, went through a box of pads and 2 boxes of super
tampons. Half a bottle of Motrin as well. My family ended up leaving on
Sunday to go to the lake without me which was ok by me. I think they had
more fun without me and my bitching anyhow.

On the upside, I was so miserable with it I didn't eat much this weekend
and since it's almost over the bloating is gone and I stepped on the
scales this morning and was down another lb. Now I can get back to my
walking/cycling and back to living.

Thanks to all who responded with much needed support :)

Susan
260/191/140

> > I'm dying, or at least I wished I were. It's TOM again and AGAIN (4th
> > month in a row) I'm absolutely miserable with my period. My weight is up
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Em
Kasey - 05 Jun 2004 00:54 GMT
Your symptoms do worry me, especially the heavy bleeding.

Twelve years ago, I had bleeding like that, to the point that I
fainted from blood loss. I was diagnosed with fibroids. A year later I
had a hysterectomy.

The bleeding can become dangerous – the woman who owned the gym I
attended at the time had an emergency hysterectomy because bleeding
from fibroids during her period became so profuse that her life was
threatened.

These days, a hysterectomy might not be necessary to treat fibroids,
but you MUST get to a physician to find out the cause.

I don't know what state you live in or what kind of health-care
assistance is available for people without insurance where you live,
but surely there is some way you can get medical care for this.  It
might mean borrowing money from a friend or family member, or doing
without something, or selling a few things to get a little cash, or
working out a payment plan with a GYN, but your health is too
important to put this off.

Please try to find a way to get treatment, and good luck.

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/262/???
Rogue - 05 Jun 2004 02:45 GMT
[...]
> I'm having
> to wear 2 pads and a tampon (super) and am changing them every hour and
> a half. I had none of this when I was at much higher weight.
[...]

All I know is that I've heard if you are soaking a pad an hour, you need
to seek medical attention immediately.

Hope it gets better for you, and take care of yourself!

Rogue
 
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