> What is the benefit to single set circuit training? Is this how curves
> does their thing?
>
> I'm just wondering, as I've noticed that many people at the gym do their
> workouts this way, but I feel I don't get much of a workout by doing just
> single sets.
Curves does use the single set training and you go around the circuit 3
times.
I did a search on 'single set circuit training' and came up with quite a
few interesting studies. I only skimmed through them - here's one. There
were some more in depth studies but didn't have time to read all of them.
http://www.muscleblitz.com/single_set.htm
jayjay - 08 Jun 2004 22:59 GMT
> Curves does use the single set training and you go around the circuit 3
> times.
well, then you really aren't doing single sets now, are you. :)
> I did a search on 'single set circuit training' and came up with quite a
> few interesting studies. I only skimmed through them - here's one. There
> were some more in depth studies but didn't have time to read all of them.
>
> http://www.muscleblitz.com/single_set.htm
Interesting site, I've just been doign some browsing around. I
particularly like the diet articles where they tell you how to spot a fad or
scam, then in the same article they link to diet aids and spot reducing
creams or fad gimmicks. NOT!
I wouldn't know what to belive on that site. The articles appear good, but
then all the links to their ads and promoting gimmicks and fads, makes you
wonder the validity of everything else.
Beverly - 09 Jun 2004 13:32 GMT
> > Curves does use the single set training and you go around the circuit 3
> > times.
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> then all the links to their ads and promoting gimmicks and fads, makes you
> wonder the validity of everything else.
You have to take these sites with a grain of salt<g> I never look at their
advertisements. I often use the references they give to do further
searches.
I'm not doing the single sets anymore. I usually do 2-3 sets depending on
the amount of time and energy I have at that particular moment. I haven't
been to the gym since Memorial Day weekend as I'm battling my second round
of poison ivy for the season. I doubt anyone would feel comfortable using
the equipment after me right now. It's beginning to look better and think
I'll start back this weekend......or maybe I'll just ride some extra miles
on the trails this weekend and start fresh next Monday :)
Beverly
Chris Braun - 09 Jun 2004 02:37 GMT
>> What is the benefit to single set circuit training? Is this how curves
>> does their thing?
>>
>> I'm just wondering, as I've noticed that many people at the gym do their
>> workouts this way, but I feel I don't get much of a workout by doing just
>> single sets.
There are many people who believe that single sets can be very
effective. I often do single sets of assistance exercises (i.e., not
my "main" lifts like bench press, but things like triceps extensions
or biceps curls), but I might do several exercises for the same muscle
group. You can get just as much of a workout from doing, say, a set
of DB triceps extensions, a set of triceps pressdowns, and a set of
close-grip bench, as from doing 3 sets of triceps extensions. And
each works the muscles slightly differently, which can be a good
thing.
You said in another post that the people you've observed don't seem to
be lifting a lot of weight. There's not a lot of strength-building
benefit to lifting weights that don't challenge you, whether for one
set or several.
Chris
Julie Nova - 09 Jun 2004 14:48 GMT
When I was seriously lifting at Lifetime and studying through books
and the web, IIRC, single sets showed definite benefits for people in
the first 6 months of training, and research was being done to see if
it would benefit more advanced lifters. They were doing single sets
of 15 reps, and lifting at a notch higher weight than they would at
two or three reps. So, the folks you saw probably got the magazine
version of the studies.
Julie - I rode my bike 5 miles on urban roads and hills yesterday!
It's a start.
> >> What is the benefit to single set circuit training? Is this how curves
> >> does their thing?
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>
> Chris
jayjay - 11 Jun 2004 13:30 GMT
>When I was seriously lifting at Lifetime and studying through books
>and the web, IIRC, single sets showed definite benefits for people in
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>two or three reps. So, the folks you saw probably got the magazine
>version of the studies.
actually, I went thru the orientation at my gym last year when I
started. When they give you the orientation, they do a single set on
each machine to show you how it works. They bump the weights down so
that you do not get injured, and its really just a "training" session
to learn the machines
From what I am observing, these people are taking those instructions
and turning it into a workout.
>Julie - I rode my bike 5 miles on urban roads and hills yesterday!
>It's a start.
Good for you!!!
Renegade5 - 11 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
The amount of weight is only one way to fatigue the muscle. The other
is to slow down the tempo, proper form, and avoiding resting the
muscle during the exercise.
>>> What is the benefit to single set circuit training? Is this how curves
>>> does their thing?
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>
>Chris
Chris Braun - 11 Jun 2004 04:19 GMT
>The amount of weight is only one way to fatigue the muscle. The other
>is to slow down the tempo, proper form, and avoiding resting the
>muscle during the exercise.
Agreed.
Chris
Jayjay,
You may be getting almost all the benefit from one good set - and of
course it takes much less time! I do one set and then do a second
partial set - very slowly. I allow myself only 20 minutes for my
weight workout. Finally, doing one set allows you to use more
equipment in a given amount of time. The "trick" to building muscle or
strength is to tax your muscles enough to slightly injure them. When
they heal, they become stronger. Ideally, you should be at least
slightly sore the day after your workout. If you want better results
often a trainer or a training partner can help you push out the final
reps.
> What is the benefit to single set circuit training? Is this how curves
> does their thing?
>
> I'm just wondering, as I've noticed that many people at the gym do their
> workouts this way, but I feel I don't get much of a workout by doing just
> single sets.
jayjay - 08 Jun 2004 22:26 GMT
Oh my, this post would be burnt to a crisp were it to be in MFW... What
you've said goes against alot of weight training ideals.
And, let me say - DOMS the day after has nothing to do with muscle growth or
the quality of a workout.
But as for my observations at the gym, the people I observed certainly
weren't "taxing" their workouts. I got on the machines after them, and
they were doing very light weights.
> Jayjay,
>
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> > workouts this way, but I feel I don't get much of a workout by doing just
> > single sets.
Renegade5 - 11 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
Isn't superslow a form of HIT.... a very respected protocol in MFW?
>Oh my, this post would be burnt to a crisp were it to be in MFW... What
>you've said goes against alot of weight training ideals.
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>just
>> > single sets.
Renegade5 - 11 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
I've been experimenting with single set workouts for the past few
weeks (one set, 6-10 reps, 2-3 workouts a week) and so far... it seems
to be very effective (though I miss getting the added cardio between
sets of my old circuit training). It's also backed by science (as
least the muscle building part).
Search for: Superslow, The Slowburn Revolution, and The Power of 10
>Jayjay,
>
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>> workouts this way, but I feel I don't get much of a workout by doing just
>> single sets.