Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / June 2004
Ok.. Advice needed.
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susanjoneslewis - 11 Jun 2004 21:55 GMT Ok It's lengthy to explain, but here goes.
I live in a very small town.. Curves is about 25 miles away, World Gym and the like are about 30.. the other direction from where I am normally going. So, this gal that I know very well in my hometown has started up a fitness facility on her property (her husbands business is there as well.) It's really nice, all air-conditioned(we live in Central Texas) she has a ton of great equipment, tapes, and room. She isn't a trainer by any means but has been a very athletic/fit person all of her life. She is opening her doors for others at 30 dollars a month. Unlimited use of her machines etc. She gives you a passcode for the door lock thing and you sign in and out, its sorta honor system.
I really want to start going.... here's the issue. As much as I love Mark (my soon to be husband) He's a little jealous of my weightloss and the amt of time I spend taking care of my health and WOL. Also, money is tight for us right now (bought a new house, kid expense, yadda yadda) and 30 dollars *could* be spent somewhere else. Mark has made small comments from time to time, not really in a harping way.. but still.. about my spending x amt on my nails/hair/clothes and the amt I spend on the kids stuff (2 swimsuits instead of one, a highlight for my 14 year old daughter, new cd's for his son) & I know if I say "honey, I'm going to start going to that fitness place up town" that I will get comment and possibly an argument about it.
I'm bored to *DEATH* with my walking/bike at home/free weights. And I don't feel I am getting the workout and incentive I need to move further. I really feel like going to this facility will get me moving in a better direction for my health and my weight. I also would like to enroll my son as well who is overweight and needs activity.
What is my best argument for this idea if in fact he gives me one? Suggestions?
Susan 260/192/140
Alex - 11 Jun 2004 22:52 GMT >Ok It's lengthy to explain, but here goes. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >Susan >260/192/140 Wow. Tough one. I guess what I'm confused about is the comment that your fiance is jealous of your weight loss. What does that look like?
If it's a simple matter of finances and this is something you want to do, substitute. Have a plan mapped out about how you are going to save $30/month and that the money will be seamless to your current standard of living. For instance, lose having the nails done or something. I am not clear what you are able to cut back on, but I'm sure you can find $30/month somewhere. If he makes a comment, maybe you can blow it off, if it's an argument concede the money from somewhere else -- maybe the 14 yr old doesn't need highlights from a salon, buy them at the drugstore and do them for her, perhaps.
jmho
Ally 212/181/160
susanjoneslewis - 11 Jun 2004 23:29 GMT Thanks for responding Ally
I don't know if "jealousy" is really the right word. Mark is about 30 lbs overweight himself and a bit older than I am, I am in that phase in my life where I really am working hard to look my absolute best - he isn't. I wish he and I were on the same level about that. I spend alot of my free time walking/bike/doing "diet stuff" as I've often heard it termed from my family. I think more than anything he is a bit envious of my time spent.. and not the money end of things. Mark fell in love with me when I was at my highest weight. He's seen the transformation which has included a huge rise in my self esteem but along with that comes other men's attention sometimes which he doesn't like. He deals with it, but he doesn't like it much. He supports me in so many ways on my new WOE/WOL but I know that he would give pause to my joining this facility because of time and money. Even if those are just excuses from him.
I know there are several ways to cut out something and come up with the 30 dollars, that is the easy part.. I could go back to ironing instead of taking things into the dry cleaners for example. Little things like that would easily pay for this. I guess the whole real issue is time management and trying to spend a little of my free time on ME and not devoting it all to Mark and the kids.
I can't possibly be the first woman who is making changes in her life that it has disturbed their SOs.
<shrug> I'm still at a loss on what's the best way to approach the subject of my joining it.
Susan 260/192/140
> >Ok It's lengthy to explain, but here goes. > > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > Ally > 212/181/160 Alex - 11 Jun 2004 23:46 GMT >Thanks for responding Ally > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >Susan >260/192/140 Hi Susan,
Ahhh, now I understand a little bit better! I thought money really was the issue and not the time spent. I hope someone has some sage advice for you, luckily my SO is so on board it's scary, lol!
Good luck and I hope you get a chance to do this, it really sounds like a very cool opportunity.
Ally 212/181/160
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 12 Jun 2004 01:32 GMT > Thanks for responding Ally > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > WOE/WOL but I know that he would give pause to my joining this facility > because of time and money. Even if those are just excuses from him. instead of addressing the excuses, why not address the core issue? it's not going to get better if you don't deal with it.
JayJay - 12 Jun 2004 15:02 GMT > instead of addressing the excuses, why not address the core issue? it's > not going to get better if you don't deal with it. AMEN!!
Sage advice here.
byakee - 12 Jun 2004 03:24 GMT Hark! I heard "susanjoneslewis" <susanjoneslewis@sbcglobal.net> say:
> I don't know if "jealousy" is really the right word. Mark is about 30 > lbs overweight himself and a bit older than I am, I am in that phase in [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > WOE/WOL but I know that he would give pause to my joining this facility > because of time and money. Even if those are just excuses from him. Ahhh, I see.
> I know there are several ways to cut out something and come up with the > 30 dollars, that is the easy part.. I could go back to ironing instead > of taking things into the dry cleaners for example. Little things like > that would easily pay for this. I guess the whole real issue is time > management and trying to spend a little of my free time on ME and not > devoting it all to Mark and the kids. Seems like an insecurity issue on his part. Has someone cheated on or dumped him in the past? He might not realize why this bothers him, and you probably should deal with it before you get married.
> I can't possibly be the first woman who is making changes in her life > that it has disturbed their SOs. Luckily, DH met me at my thinnest (and has loved me all along), so he's enjoying watching me shrink.
> <shrug> I'm still at a loss on what's the best way to approach the > subject of my joining it. Calmly and honestly? Not knowing either of you, that's about the best I can do, sorry...
 Signature J.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail)
Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 229 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199
janice - 12 Jun 2004 09:11 GMT Does he do any "fitness stuff" himself? Aside fromthe weight loss aspect, does he see importance in keeping fit? If there's some activity involving exercise you could encourage him and the kids to do with you, so as to get him on board about this, then perhaps he'd see the importance to you of trying out this new facility?
janice
>Thanks for responding Ally > [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] >> Ally >> 212/181/160 JayJay - 12 Jun 2004 15:11 GMT > Thanks for responding Ally > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > WOE/WOL but I know that he would give pause to my joining this facility > because of time and money. Even if those are just excuses from him. Here is the core issue.
Sounds like FDH is not necessarily "jealous" more than he is insecure about the relationship.
He fell in love with fat and lazy, and maybe he is also fat and lazy himself and you fell in love with at. You've changed and are no longer lazy, you've become active, you've got new likes and activities that do not include him. And there is probably an underlaying fear of his that if you continue to lose weight and get fit, you will no longer love him for who he is, and you'll go out to look for someone who is also fit and active and can enjoy this new lifestyle you are after.
He probably doesn't even realize that this is an issue, which is why things manifest into the backhanded comments and the arguments over the lesser issues (money, kids, etc).
You are spending your free time exercising, which means less time for you to spend paying attention to him and the kids. Less attention leads to more fear on his behalf, as it just perpetuates the fact that you don't want to spend time with your fat and lazy FDH.
Yes, to you, this is all UNTRUE. You still love him for who he is and you don't want him to change unless he wants to. You are still loving and accepting of him as he is. But, that doesn't mean that he sees how you feel because you are very self focused on your weight loss right now.
So, what you need to work on is the core issue of the fear in the relationship over your change in behavior. Once you get past that you will see that he will probably accept the time spent at the gym and the comments and arguments can stop. But it may take a good argument to bring all this out in the open and on the table, so that you can deal with it.
Communication is key here. Any good, strong relationship needs good open communcation to discuss these issues.
Oh, and something you can throw in ... My DH actually loves it when he catches some guy checking me out, or if we are at a bar and DH goes off to the bathroom and witnesses some guy hitting on me. Its the ol' "trophy wife" thing. :) For him to have a wife that other guys admire. But feelign that way also takes a bit of good self esteem on his part, as he knows that even if a guy hits on me, its my DH that is going home to have sex with me that night, not the guy hitting onme. :)
> I know there are several ways to cut out something and come up with the > 30 dollars, that is the easy part.. I could go back to ironing instead [quoted text clipped - 77 lines] > > Ally > > 212/181/160 Patricia Heil - 12 Jun 2004 00:23 GMT Take him with you. Everybody needs exercise.
> Ok It's lengthy to explain, but here goes. > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Susan > 260/192/140 cooper - 12 Jun 2004 14:47 GMT > Take him with you. Everybody needs exercise. Easier said than done. I'm in a very similar position as the OP. Both my SO and I have put on alot of weight since we moved into together 2 years ago and each time I go biking or walking our 2 dogs I always offer him to join me. He's resistant, but then again, I wasn't ready to change my WOE until *I* was ready to do so. So I can understand his reluctance. He is also 'jealous' of my weight loss (not sure if jealous is the right word either lol) so I completely understand what's going on here.
Coop
Anny Middon - 12 Jun 2004 18:15 GMT > Take him with you. Everybody needs exercise. I was thinking the same thing. Ask the fitness place owner if she'll give you a special family rate -- you've already said you'd like your son to join, and your teenage daughter if she's like most is also interested in shaping her body. A workout a few days a week can be a fun family activity. You might make up a little notebook to take with you to track each person's progress.
On a more subversive note -- if you ask your DF to join you every time you go, he can hardly complain about the time you're spending away from him if he chooses not to go with you.
Anny
byakee - 12 Jun 2004 03:17 GMT Hark! I heard "susanjoneslewis" <susanjoneslewis@sbcglobal.net> say:
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> What is my best argument for this idea if in fact he gives me one? > Suggestions? Tell him you'll cut out one expense in trade for this one...
 Signature J.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail)
Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 229 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199
jmk - 14 Jun 2004 13:34 GMT > What is my best argument for this idea if in fact he gives me one? > Suggestions? If possible, cut $30/mon from something else and spend that same $30/mon on the gym.
 Signature jmk in NC
Dally - 14 Jun 2004 13:57 GMT > As much as I love > Mark (my soon to be husband) He's a little jealous of my weightloss and [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to start going to that fitness place up town" that I will get comment > and possibly an argument about it. Susan, I've been mulling over whether to address this or not. I provide this sort of advice professionally but I've never really been sure that my advice is useful for a lot of the couples I see. But here goes.
You have to like each other's values and you have to respect that the other person is capable of making reasonable decisions about your joint life. If you don't like the other person and you don't respect the other person then DON'T MARRY THAT PERSON.
But if the man likes you, and respects your values, then he has to trust that you aren't going to ruin the family by making decisions that seem warrented to you.
This isn't a particularly tough hurdle to face, one person choosing a different recreational/health budget than the other. What gets tough is when one of the spouses has a spending habit that truly isn't respectable, like gambling or drinking or buying endless clothes. In that situation you're still stuck having to respect the adult inside your spouse, i.e., it's not the choice you would make for yourself but you have to give them the honor of "ruining" their half of your life (i.e., living the life the way they want to, or getting help for themselves if they aren't.) (In those cases you put up some firewalls, separate accounts, get some counselling, etc.)
This fundamental attitude of respect is going to have to carry your marriage through a lot of things the man does: he will sit in a chair and fart all through football games when the house needs painting, etc. You've got to know that he deserves recreation (that costs you, too, if you have to hire someone to do the painting) and he deserves to have his choices valued.
THIS is the conversation you need to have, not "honey, I need $30." This is a fundamental marriage issue and I hate to see engaged people not facing it.
Good luck,
Dally
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