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Steel Cut vs. Scottish Oatmeal?

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byakee - 14 Jun 2004 23:27 GMT
Before I go out and buy anything, I wondered if any of our more
knowledgable posters might know what difference there is between
steel cut oats and scottish oatmeal, other than texture? The nutrition
information I've gotten from the company (Bob's Red Mill) site seems
nearly identical, but the package of steel cut oats touts its "heart
healthy" value, while the package of Scottish oatmeal does not. I think
I'd like the Scottish stuff better, but don't want to short-change
myself, nutritionally. Any thoughts?

Here are the nutrition labels, side by side:

http://www.zipcon.net/~spyder/jjsworld/oats.gif

Product info for the steel cut oats:

http://tinyurl.com/358nk

OR

http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/index.
php?action=showdetails&product_ID=344

Product info for the Scottish oatmeal:

http://tinyurl.com/2cos2

OR

http://www.bobsredmill.com/catalog/index.
php?action=showdetails&product_ID=279

Thanks in advance...

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Ignoramus8649 - 14 Jun 2004 23:47 GMT
Both seem like fine products, not very different from one another.

The prices are also extremely attractive, I must say. I have plenty of
oatmeal right now, but will consider buying from bobsredmill in the
future.

i
byakee - 15 Jun 2004 17:57 GMT
Hark! I heard Ignoramus8649 <ignoramus8649@NOSPAM.8649.invalid> say:

> Both seem like fine products, not very different from one another.

I'm inclined to agree. I guess they just wanted to push the "Scottish"
aspect of the oatmeal on their packaging, rather than the health part
of it. I don't actually like oatmeal much, but I think that with some
protein powder and Splenda, I could make something healthy and edible.

> The prices are also extremely attractive, I must say. I have plenty of
> oatmeal right now, but will consider buying from bobsredmill in the
> future.

I've bought their bread mixes in the past, and been satisfied with
the quality. I'm lucky to live close enough to the factory to have
their products at my local grocery store -- we don't have an actual
"health food" store any closer than 30 miles away...

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Ignoramus15206 - 15 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT
> Hark! I heard Ignoramus8649 <ignoramus8649@NOSPAM.8649.invalid> say:
>
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> of it. I don't actually like oatmeal much, but I think that with some
> protein powder and Splenda, I could make something healthy and edible.

Oatmeal is very tasty when cooked on the stove with milk instead of
water. Even with FF milk. Milk provides some sweetness to it.

>> The prices are also extremely attractive, I must say. I have plenty of
>> oatmeal right now, but will consider buying from bobsredmill in the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> their products at my local grocery store -- we don't have an actual
> "health food" store any closer than 30 miles away...

that's nice to hear... thanks.

i
SnugBear - 18 Jun 2004 04:32 GMT
> we don't have an actual
> "health food" store any closer than 30 miles away...

That's how far the closest one to me is too!  I only go every few weeks.
The commissary we shop at is nearly 50 miles.  I'm a wonderful planner <s>

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byakee - 18 Jun 2004 17:41 GMT
Hark! I heard SnugBear <snugNObear@midmaine.com> say:

> > we don't have an actual
> > "health food" store any closer than 30 miles away...
>
> That's how far the closest one to me is too!  I only go every few weeks.
> The commissary we shop at is nearly 50 miles.  I'm a wonderful planner <s>

Sheesh, woman, you must be! <g> Unfortunately, I tend to shop 2-3
times per week. I used to be great at planning ahead, until we moved
into town and I have all-hours access to grocery stores. I also don't
have the storage space that I had in our old place. Maybe we can do
something about that this summer; I get sick of going to the store...

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SnugBear - 19 Jun 2004 01:49 GMT
byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) wrote in news:cav5v7$20ig_012
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> Sheesh, woman, you must be! <g> Unfortunately, I tend to shop 2-3
> times per week. I used to be great at planning ahead, until we moved
> into town and I have all-hours access to grocery stores. I also don't
> have the storage space that I had in our old place. Maybe we can do
> something about that this summer; I get sick of going to the store...

Get out!  I'd kill myself if I had to go that often! (I'd miss so much
walking!!)  I do replenish my fresh veggies from the nearest *real*
grogery store 8 miles away, but I only go to the commissary about every 3
months.

For the past 2 weeks we've had fresh spinach and lettuce from the garden
- yum!

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SnugBear - 18 Jun 2004 04:36 GMT
> I don't actually like oatmeal much, but I think that with some
> protein powder and Splenda, I could make something healthy and edible.

Forgot to say, I always add some fruit - apple, pear, peach, blueberries -
anything you like.  It might be my favorite meal and certainly the most
reliable.

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Perple Gyrl - 18 Jun 2004 05:10 GMT
I finally made some steel cut oatmeal.  I have to admit, it was worth it!  I
soaked it overnight.  It was yummy and very filling.  I did notice that I
wasn't as hungry as I would have been had I eating rolled oats instead!

> > I don't actually like oatmeal much, but I think that with some
> > protein powder and Splenda, I could make something healthy and edible.
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SnugBear - 19 Jun 2004 01:50 GMT
"Perple Gyrl"  wrote:

> I finally made some steel cut oatmeal.  I have to admit, it was worth
> it!  I soaked it overnight.  It was yummy and very filling.  I did
> notice that I wasn't as hungry as I would have been had I eating
> rolled oats instead!

Yay!!  I'm so glad you liked it <s>

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Cynthia Perry - 17 Jun 2004 19:03 GMT
>Both seem like fine products, not very different from one another.
>
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>
>i

I'm not a big oatmeal fan... but I see a lot of Bob's Red Mill stuff
around here. I've bought some, and not been disappointed in any.

Cynthia
Perple Gyrl - 15 Jun 2004 00:55 GMT
I bought some steel cut oatmeal and was disappointed to see how long it took
to make!  I get thick and hearty oatmeal you can buy at whole foods and it
takes 10 mins to cook in the microwave at low heat.   I just don't have the
time to spend making steel cut, so I opted for thick cut rolled oats.

> Before I go out and buy anything, I wondered if any of our more
> knowledgable posters might know what difference there is between
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SnugBear - 15 Jun 2004 03:52 GMT
"Perple Gyrl"  wrote:

> I bought some steel cut oatmeal and was disappointed to see how long
> it took to make!  I get thick and hearty oatmeal you can buy at whole
> foods and it takes 10 mins to cook in the microwave at low heat.   I
> just don't have the time to spend making steel cut, so I opted for
> thick cut rolled oats.

Soak overnight - Before going to bed, boil 1 cup of water in a pot, turn
off the heat and add one quarter cup of oatmeal. Cover the pot and leave
overnight. In the morning cook over a low flame for 9-12 mins.

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Perple Gyrl - 15 Jun 2004 03:34 GMT
I saw that on the box as well...  but I am hesitant to leave food out
overnight like that.  I have 2 curious and naughty cats and I can imagine it
all over my floor and counters in the morning.  Do you think it would work
to soak it overnight in the fridge?

"SnugBear" <snugNObear@midmaine.com> wrote in message

> Soak overnight - Before going to bed, boil 1 cup of water in a pot, turn
> off the heat and add one quarter cup of oatmeal. Cover the pot and leave
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Chris Braun - 15 Jun 2004 09:17 GMT
>I saw that on the box as well...  but I am hesitant to leave food out
>overnight like that.  I have 2 curious and naughty cats and I can imagine it
>all over my floor and counters in the morning.  Do you think it would work
>to soak it overnight in the fridge?

When we want to leave something out that the cats would get into, we
put it in our microwave.  

Chris
Perple Gyrl - 17 Jun 2004 04:39 GMT
Duh... why didn't I think of that?  I'll try it one day this week!

"Chris Braun" <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote in message > When we want
to leave something out that the cats would get into, we
> put it in our microwave.
>
> Chris
byakee - 15 Jun 2004 17:58 GMT
Hark! I heard SnugBear <snugNObear@midmaine.com> say:
> "Perple Gyrl"  wrote:
>
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> off the heat and add one quarter cup of oatmeal. Cover the pot and leave
> overnight. In the morning cook over a low flame for 9-12 mins.

I saved a copy of this in my "recipe" file -- thanks, Laurie... :-)

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SnugBear - 15 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
> Before I go out and buy anything, I wondered if any of our more
> knowledgable posters might know what difference there is between
> steel cut oats and scottish oatmeal, other than texture?

I just love the chewy texture of the steel cut oats.  I get them cheaper in
bulk by the pound at the health food store.  See another post for the
overnight cooking method - works like a champ and it's worth it!

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Vlupina - 15 Jun 2004 05:29 GMT
Both are made from the same grain, the difference lies in how the grain
is processed. It is the cooking time that will vary depending on whether
or not the grain is rolled, whole etc.

Here is a site that explains the differences between the types of oatmeal :

http://www.foodsubs.com/GrainOats.html

I find that I don't have time to cook anything more whole than the
large-flake (aka old-fashioned) oatmeal in the morning. The steel-cut
oats take too long to cook !

Vlupina

> Before I go out and buy anything, I wondered if any of our more
> knowledgable posters might know what difference there is between
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>
> Thanks in advance...
byakee - 16 Jun 2004 05:46 GMT
Hark! I heard Vlupina <s_castaneda21@hotmail.com> say:

> Both are made from the same grain, the difference lies in how the grain
> is processed. It is the cooking time that will vary depending on whether
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://www.foodsubs.com/GrainOats.html

Great link, thanks!

> I find that I don't have time to cook anything more whole than the
> large-flake (aka old-fashioned) oatmeal in the morning. The steel-cut
> oats take too long to cook !

Laurie (Snugbear) posted this yesterday, regarding steel cut oats:

> Soak overnight - Before going to bed, boil 1 cup of water in a pot,
> turn off the heat and add one quarter cup of oatmeal. Cover the pot
> and leave overnight. In the morning cook over a low flame for 9-12
> mins.

HTH... :-)

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Perple Gyrl - 17 Jun 2004 04:26 GMT
Great link, thanks!

> Both are made from the same grain, the difference lies in how the grain
> is processed. It is the cooking time that will vary depending on whether
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> >
> > Thanks in advance...
Doug Freyburger - 15 Jun 2004 21:49 GMT
> Before I go out and buy anything, I wondered if any of our more
> knowledgable posters might know what difference there is between
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> I'd like the Scottish stuff better, but don't want to short-change
> myself, nutritionally. Any thoughts?

Mostly name not even texture.  I've seen "Irish oatmeal" "Scottish
oatmeal" and "steel cut oats" that all appear to be the same product
without a magnifying glass.  If they have different texture it
probably comes from setting the cut to slightly different sizes.

As long as the ingredients don't list anything but "oats" they
should be completely interchangible for nutrition and nearly so in
texture.

If your scottish oatmeal is rolled oats more like American oatmeal,
the hulls have been smashed.  This will make it cook more easily
and *maybe* make some of the fiber in the hull subject to being
cooked from indigestible fiber to digestible starch to some extent.
That conversion is one of several advantages of cooking (vegans
sometimes claim it's cooking's foremost advantage).
 
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