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Chris Braun - 13 Jun 2004 23:48 GMT
Today involved an interesting justaposition of diet-related
activities.  First, we went out with friends for an extravagant brunch
-- ate lots of goodies -- probably 1500 calories worth.  

Then, feeling rather overstuffed, we went to see the movie "Super Size
Me".  This is the movie made by the guy who ate nothing but McDonald's
food for a month.  I was really interesting, and also really scary.
It made me feel like I never wanted to eat processed foods again.  It
was also maybe not the best thing to see after just stuffing myself at
brunch :-).

Then we went to the gym to do our long cardio day -- in my case, 40
minutes treadmill run.  It was a little harder today than sometimes.
This may be partly because I was still feeling overfull, and partly
because I donated blood yesterday.  But it was okay.  I got tired
doing it but recovered easily.

Afterward, I weighed in at 148, which is a pound down from Friday, and
my new low.  This is no doubt partly due to giving blood ("a pint's a
pound the world around") and partly due to the run, but still it
surprised me to see it after the brunch.  And, after seeing that
movie, I felt very glad we went to the gym!

And, by the way, to brunch I wore a size 8 strapless sundress that I
bought at Old Navy yesterday -- though with a little short-sleeved
sweater -- I'm not quite used to showing that much bare skin :-).

Chris
262/148/ (145-150)
Dally - 14 Jun 2004 01:06 GMT
> Today involved an interesting justaposition of diet-related
> activities.  First, we went out with friends for an extravagant brunch
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Chris
> 262/148/ (145-150)

I like reading your stories.  They're so real and upbeat.

I bought one of those cammisoles that have a built in bra (this one has
a built-in underwire with a hook in back) and I feel so svelte in it
along with my skort.  I ran into a friend of mine wearing this outfit
and she exclaimed over how fantastic I look these days.  I asked if she
didn't think the look was a bit "young" for me and she laughed and said
that 40 year old women can show skin if they look good in it!  :-)

Have you read Fast Food Nation?  Between that and the mad cow disease
thing and the e-coli outbreaks I can't quite let my family eat
hamburger.  Sometimes I'll have meat ground if I really need it for
something but I just can't buy a hamburger.

I wore my nice new Mcdonald's pedometer when I went for a hike today.  I
was gone about 90 minutes but I was with Sam and he slows me down.
Anyway, the step count was over 8,000 last time I looked but when I got
home and went to check it I accidently reset it while opening it.  Oops!

I estimate I went 9000 steps.  But they were largely vertical.  We did
one of the cliff walks today.  (Did I mention Sam slowed me down?
That's cuz I was CARRYING him.)

Dally
Ignoramus3099 - 14 Jun 2004 01:19 GMT
> Have you read Fast Food Nation?  Between that and the mad cow disease
> thing and the e-coli outbreaks I can't quite let my family eat
> hamburger.  Sometimes I'll have meat ground if I really need it for
> something but I just can't buy a hamburger.

I am reading it now... Have you read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle? The
book that made alot of noise 100 years ago, about the meatpacking
industry and how its workers were being screwed. I spoke about it to
my friend, about how processed meat was so bad 100 years ago, and his
comment was, well, of course it is so much worse now. Supposedly 40%
of cows' feed is cardboard pulp, and also they eat chicken manure.

> I estimate I went 9000 steps.  But they were largely vertical.  We did
> one of the cliff walks today.  (Did I mention Sam slowed me down?
> That's cuz I was CARRYING him.)

most outstanding...

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Chris Braun - 14 Jun 2004 01:57 GMT
>I bought one of those cammisoles that have a built in bra (this one has
>a built-in underwire with a hook in back) and I feel so svelte in it
>along with my skort.  I ran into a friend of mine wearing this outfit
>and she exclaimed over how fantastic I look these days.  I asked if she
>didn't think the look was a bit "young" for me and she laughed and said
>that 40 year old women can show skin if they look good in it!  :-)

Yes!  I've just lately bought some camisoles like that too :-).  I
also wonder how age appropriate this stuff is -- and I'm 56.  But I do
have -- I think -- a really good shoulder/ collarbone area.  I wore a
spaghetti-strap dress (long) to my niece's wedding and got tons of
compliments.  

So far I've just worn the camisoles around the house and out running
errands.  I guess I'd wear one to work with something over it, but not
otherwise.  I do wear tank tops sometimes, though -- also get
compliments on those.

>Have you read Fast Food Nation?  Between that and the mad cow disease
>thing and the e-coli outbreaks I can't quite let my family eat
>hamburger.  Sometimes I'll have meat ground if I really need it for
>something but I just can't buy a hamburger.

Haven't read it.  I've heard about it and have kind of avoided it
because I don't want to scare myself out of eating everything :-).

>I wore my nice new Mcdonald's pedometer when I went for a hike today.  I
>was gone about 90 minutes but I was with Sam and he slows me down.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>one of the cliff walks today.  (Did I mention Sam slowed me down?
>That's cuz I was CARRYING him.)

I bought a pedometer once but didn't like wearing it the one time I
tried.  It made noise.  Does yours?  Do they all?

Chris
janice - 14 Jun 2004 10:26 GMT
>I bought a pedometer once but didn't like wearing it the one time I
>tried.  It made noise.  Does yours?  Do they all?
>
>Chris

Chris

I have a pedometer which I use quite a lot.  It's entirely silent, and
I'm having trouble imagining what sort of noise it could possibly
make!  I guess yours was a different type altogether.  Mine is very
small (about 1 1.2 inches square) and clips on the waistband of my
trousers or skirt.  The theory is that it counts your paces by the
movement of your hip bone (and yes, I can feel my hip bone).  I find
it pretty accurate agains the map when I go on long hikes, but once
you start to climb up or down significantly the number of paces tends
to get smaller and therefore overestimate  the distance.

janice
jayjay - 14 Jun 2004 13:44 GMT
>I bought one of those cammisoles that have a built in bra (this one has
>a built-in underwire with a hook in back) and I feel so svelte in it
>along with my skort.  I ran into a friend of mine wearing this outfit
>and she exclaimed over how fantastic I look these days.  I asked if she
>didn't think the look was a bit "young" for me and she laughed and said
>that 40 year old women can show skin if they look good in it!  :-)

OK - intrigued interest - details please on the cammisole w/ the
underwire and hooks in the back. ...   What brand and where did you
get it?
Dally - 14 Jun 2004 14:01 GMT
>>I bought one of those cammisoles that have a built in bra (this one has
>>a built-in underwire with a hook in back) and I feel so svelte in it
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> underwire and hooks in the back. ...   What brand and where did you
> get it?

http://www.normthompson.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=7090&itemType
=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=35306&iProductID=7090

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z35642F88

Dally
jayjay - 14 Jun 2004 14:15 GMT
>http://www.normthompson.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=7090&itemType
=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=35306&iProductID=7090

>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z35642F88
>
>Dally

Thanks,

Damned if they don't offer it in a 34a or 34b.   Just cuz I'm small
chested doesn't mean I don't need support.
Dally - 14 Jun 2004 14:22 GMT
>>http://www.normthompson.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=7090&itemType
=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=35306&iProductID=7090

>>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z35642F88
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Damned if they don't offer it in a 34a or 34b.   Just cuz I'm small
> chested doesn't mean I don't need support.

You should see the trouble I'm having finding Caroline underwear.  She's
a 33" hip, a size "4" in the women's sizes.  She doesn't want little
girl underwear with flowers and cartoon characters and those are the
only kind we can find in her size.  We've scoured our town and then I
went online to a place I buy stuff and they don't carry a women's size
4, either.

The girl is slender and can easily fit into girl's size 14 things, but
she doesn't like the styles so we end up at juniors stores buying her a
size 3.  Too bad they don't carry underwear!

Dally
Anne E. McDonald - 14 Jun 2004 14:55 GMT
: You should see the trouble I'm having finding Caroline underwear.  She's
: a 33" hip, a size "4" in the women's sizes.  She doesn't want little
: girl underwear with flowers and cartoon characters and those are the
: only kind we can find in her size.  We've scoured our town and then I
: went online to a place I buy stuff and they don't carry a women's size
: 4, either.

victoria's secret makes some nice undies in sizes XS and S that
would probably work for her.

these are on sale:

http://tinyurl.com/yqhxf
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/clearance/grid.cfm?BRA_SIZE=&PANTY_SIZE=XS&COLLE
CTION=OSGRDCOTZZZ

jayjay - 14 Jun 2004 15:10 GMT
>>>http://www.normthompson.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=7090&itemType
=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=35306&iProductID=7090

>>>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z35642F88
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>
>Dally

Well, I did find that in other styles they do have the smaller cup
sizes in their "perfect fit" chammies...   Just not in that lace one.
But they've got the microfiber ones and I love microfiber!!!   :-)

As for your daughter, what about the extra small undies you can find
at any store?   I mean I've seen 4's and extra smalls at Walmart even,
in your average white highcut briefs and low cut bikini undies.  

I know with the hiprise pants you have to wear those lowcut bikini's
so as much as I hate them, I'm starting to wear them as it seams more
and more the rise on the pants is lowering.
Dally - 14 Jun 2004 15:28 GMT
> Well, I did find that in other styles they do have the smaller cup
> sizes in their "perfect fit" chammies...   Just not in that lace one.
> But they've got the microfiber ones and I love microfiber!!!   :-)

I like the Norm Thompson stuff.  Their lyocell (Tencel) t-shirts are my
absolute favorite.  They wear well, they pack well, they look great.

> As for your daughter, what about the extra small undies you can find
> at any store?   I mean I've seen 4's and extra smalls at Walmart even,
> in your average white highcut briefs and low cut bikini undies.  

Here's a weird thing about my town.  We don't have a Wal*Mart.  We're in
fact FAMOUS for not having a Wal*Mart.  We were on 60 Minutes for not
having a Wal*Mart.  The main Anti-Wal*Mart Crusader in the Country, Al
Norman, lives two houses away from me.

We also don't have a mall.  Or a fast-food strip (though there's a
cluster of them at the interstate exit.)

We have a family-owned traditional department store.  We have boutique
clothes.  We have mail-order and online-shopping.

We are also famous for having one of the last real New England towns in
America: a vibrant Main Street, a parade for any excuse, shady Elm trees
(yes, Elm, we're aggressive tree savers) and, well, it's pretty much
just the way Norman Rockwell left it.

> I know with the hiprise pants you have to wear those lowcut bikini's
> so as much as I hate them, I'm starting to wear them as it seams more
> and more the rise on the pants is lowering.

I was thinking about bikinis the other day.  I wear hi-cut because of my
saggy belly.  The bikinis fit UNDER the stomach apron.  I just can't
quite make this be a Good Thing.  (I stood in the mirror smooshing the
skin back and forth imagining what I'd look like without the blob.  The
blob is shrinking, but I still feel like I can practically throw it over
my shoulders.)

Dally, doing TMI again
Chris Braun - 15 Jun 2004 00:47 GMT
>We are also famous for having one of the last real New England towns in
>America: a vibrant Main Street, a parade for any excuse, shady Elm trees
>(yes, Elm, we're aggressive tree savers) and, well, it's pretty much
>just the way Norman Rockwell left it.

Dally, having lived in the Boston area for many year (first Cambridge,
then Woburn, then Wilmington) I'm curious where you live.  If you feel
like telling me, you can send me email.  But I'd understand if you
don't want to.

Chris
Dally - 15 Jun 2004 02:16 GMT
>>We are also famous for having one of the last real New England towns in
>>America: a vibrant Main Street, a parade for any excuse, shady Elm trees
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Chris

Go west 90 miles.  I live on the Connecticut River.  The nearest
Wal*Mart is in New Hampshire.

Dally, in the Other Massachusetts
Chris Braun - 15 Jun 2004 02:54 GMT
>>>We are also famous for having one of the last real New England towns in
>>>America: a vibrant Main Street, a parade for any excuse, shady Elm trees
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Dally, in the Other Massachusetts

Aha!  I think I'm guilty of assuming Boston area when I hear
"Massachusetts" :-).

Chris
Dally - 15 Jun 2004 03:49 GMT
>>>>We are also famous for having one of the last real New England towns in
>>>>America: a vibrant Main Street, a parade for any excuse, shady Elm trees
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Aha!  I think I'm guilty of assuming Boston area when I hear
> "Massachusetts" :-).

How shocking.  Not.  :-)

Dally, 2 hours from Boston, 3 hours from NYC and likes it that way
SnugBear - 16 Jun 2004 13:38 GMT
> Aha!  I think I'm guilty of assuming Boston area when I hear
> "Massachusetts" :-).

When I lived in Germany I was continually explaining that being from
Poughkeepsie NY was *not* the same as being from NYC.

otoh, when we moved to South Jersey, I was surprised to find myself in
the Pine Barrens - quite a bit different from Newark Elizabeth Trenton.
At the time NJ's biggest cash crop was sod!

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Perple Gyrl - 15 Jun 2004 03:30 GMT
Does NH still have tax free shopping?  I used to live in Mass as a kid and
my (cheap jew) dad used to take us shopping there all the time.

"Dally" <dally@myself.com> wrote in message

> Go west 90 miles.  I live on the Connecticut River.  The nearest
> Wal*Mart is in New Hampshire.
>
> Dally, in the Other Massachusetts
jayjay - 15 Jun 2004 03:05 GMT
> Here's a weird thing about my town.  We don't have a Wal*Mart.  We're in
> fact FAMOUS for not having a Wal*Mart.  We were on 60 Minutes for not
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> (yes, Elm, we're aggressive tree savers) and, well, it's pretty much
> just the way Norman Rockwell left it.

Ah, memories of growing up in CT.

We also lived in a town without anything more than a Ben Franklin 5 and dime
store.   The closest Bradleys was 2 towns away.  We had the traditional Main
street, as well as the town green with the white congregational church at
the top of the green.   Summers had the concert in the park for everyone to
listen to.  Fireworks at the beach on the 4th, etc.   And we also were too
small for any fast food joints, until they decided to change all the I95
rest areas to McD's.   I was 17 when they did the 2 rest areas in our town.
Mall - we had to go into New Haven to the closest mall, the ones we liked to
go to we had to drive an hour to get to.

Ahhh..  the Memories....   They are good memories too.    Life in a small
town.    Then again, the town I live in now, its developed to have that
small town atmosphere - with the main street, the park in town, etc.   At
least one weekend a month the close the entire town square/main street down
for craft fairs and whatnot.   Its nice.    Yet we do have Walmart and a
halfassed mall that is just up the road.
Alex - 15 Jun 2004 16:23 GMT
>Ah, memories of growing up in CT.
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>for craft fairs and whatnot.   Its nice.    Yet we do have Walmart and a
>halfassed mall that is just up the road.

I grew up in CT too, on the shoreline. Fourth of July was hands-down
my favorite holiday! All the summer people were there and the
fireworks on the beach..... SIGH.....

I do miss it. Funny thing is, as kids there was "nothing to do" yet we
were always walking and biking and sunning and swimming. LOL! All my
friends wanted to get out of that nowhere town, and I wanted to stay
forever.

I am the only one I know of who left. Go figure.

Ally
212/181/160
SnugBear - 16 Jun 2004 13:47 GMT
> I grew up in CT too, on the shoreline. Fourth of July was hands-down
> my favorite holiday! All the summer people were there and the
> fireworks on the beach..... SIGH.....

I have to say that the little town I live in now is just like that.  
Everyone turns out for the Independence Day parade, there's a chicken
barbeque put on by the Boy Scouts, kid's games on the town green, library
book sale and last year we finally got a town band!  We can watch the
fireworks from the town across the harbor from the shore.

It's just about perfect  :-)

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SnugBear - 16 Jun 2004 13:41 GMT
> The closest Bradleys was 2 towns away.

!!! When I was growing up I got all my school clothes at Bradlee's !!!

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beeswing - 14 Jun 2004 15:25 GMT
><JayJay wrote>
>> OK - intrigued interest - details please on the cammisole w/ the
>> underwire and hooks in the back. ...   What brand and where did you
>
>http://www.normthompson.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=7090&itemType
=PRODUCT&iMainCat=3&iSubCat=35306&iProductID=7090

>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z35642F88

Thanks, Dally! I see that they have my size (surprise!). One question, though:
Are straps adjustable in length? I'm short!

beeswing
jayjay - 14 Jun 2004 13:46 GMT
>Today involved an interesting justaposition of diet-related
>activities.  First, we went out with friends for an extravagant brunch
>-- ate lots of goodies -- probably 1500 calories worth.  
>
>Afterward, I weighed in at 148, which is a pound down from Friday, and
>my new low.  

After eating a breakfast like that - I'd weight 148...   :-)  

Congrats on the new low.
Mary M - Ohio - 14 Jun 2004 23:25 GMT
Hooray for the sundress -- that is wonderful, Chris! Not to mention reaching your new
low -- congratulations! I am very interested in seeing "Supersize Me" and I hope it
will appear somewhere around here.

Mary

> Today involved an interesting justaposition of diet-related
> activities.  First, we went out with friends for an extravagant brunch
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> Chris
> 262/148/ (145-150)
Perple Gyrl - 15 Jun 2004 00:50 GMT
Congrats on reaching an all time low!  :)

"Chris Braun" <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote in message

> Chris
> 262/148/ (145-150)
Chris Braun - 15 Jun 2004 01:29 GMT
>Congrats on reaching an all time low!  :)
>
>"Chris Braun" <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>
>> Chris
>> 262/148/ (145-150)

Thanks :-).  I haven't weighed this little since college, I think.

Chris (still 148 today :-) )
 
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