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Auntie Em - 14 Jun 2004 23:12 GMT
I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I really don't enjoy
doing anything.

I wasn't raised in a family that exercised.  The thought never even occurred
to us.  My mom and dad both were raised in an environment where you worked
physically hard every day and when you got home (or on weekends), the
absolute last thing you could possibly ever want to do is anything physical.
I grew up believing this and never developed any interest in exercise at
all.

Now that I am older and overweight, I have tried to find something that I
enjoy doing.  So far, no luck. One thing that I don't mind doing too much is
riding a bicycle in a fitness center because it is nice and air conditioned
(in the summer), but the problem I have with that seems to be that people
are just compelled to make it miserable by either turning on a television
set or blaring some type of obnoxious music.  I was all set to join a very
nice health club for ladies until I actually went in for a tour and could
bearly hear the trainer for the loud, obnoxious music.

I am really distraught about this because I had really planned on starting
an exercise program.  Now, I can't seem to find any place that has the type
of atmosphere I feel comfortable in.

As for buying a bike for home, that isn't practical right now because I just
don't have the room.  Any ideas?

Em
Mary M - Ohio - 14 Jun 2004 23:21 GMT
Was the music so loud that your own headphones wouldn't drown it out? That's what I'd
do -- put on headphones at the gym if I didn't like their music.

Mary M

> I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
> trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
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>
> Em
OceanView - 14 Jun 2004 23:37 GMT
> Was the music so loud that your own headphones wouldn't
> drown it out? That's what I'd do -- put on headphones at
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>>
>> Em

Yes, and they sell noise-cancelling headphones now that can
just about eliminate it!
jayjay - 14 Jun 2004 23:28 GMT
> I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
> trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
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>
> Em

When I'm at the gym I wear my own headphones and listen to my own music, not
theirs.

What about walking, or riding a bike outside?   What about rollarblading?

"exercise" doesn't have to be in a gym.  And it doesn't have to be formal.
Even yardwork and other laborous jobs around the house can count as
exercise.
Ignoramus8649 - 14 Jun 2004 23:29 GMT
> I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
> trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
> be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I really don't enjoy
> doing anything.

that's a bad omen.

> I wasn't raised in a family that exercised.  The thought never even occurred
> to us.  My mom and dad both were raised in an environment where you worked
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> nice health club for ladies until I actually went in for a tour and could
> bearly hear the trainer for the loud, obnoxious music.

Maybe having headphones with your own music could help.

> I am really distraught about this because I had really planned on starting
> an exercise program.  Now, I can't seem to find any place that has the type
> of atmosphere I feel comfortable in.
>
> As for buying a bike for home, that isn't practical right now because I just
> don't have the room.  Any ideas?

While exercise is important for losing weight, it is not impossible to
lose weight without exercise. With a few minutes per day doing some
strength training at home, with minimal equipment ($20 or so), you
could forestall the worst consequences of losing weight without
exercise. Your health would end up being worse than if you lost weight
and did exercise, but it would be better than if you stayed fat and
did not exercise.

So, not wanting to exercise is bad, but, it is not a showstopper for
weight loss. Merely an impediment. You may start enjoying doing stuff
more as you lose weight and exercie becomes more palatable.

i
Ignoramus8649 - 15 Jun 2004 01:25 GMT
forgot to say, no one other than my wife lost 20 lbs while doing zero
exercise and eating sugar and junk food. She simply decided to eat
less. She did not count calories, did not exercise, did not exclude
any foods etc, and lost 20 lbs in 2 years. She is now back to her
wedding weight. I am 30 lbs below my wedding weight though.

i

> While exercise is important for losing weight, it is not impossible to
> lose weight without exercise. With a few minutes per day doing some
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> i
JMA - 15 Jun 2004 01:09 GMT
> I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
> trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
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> I grew up believing this and never developed any interest in exercise at
> all.

My husband is of a similar mindset in that his job is physically taxing at
times and he feels it's enough of a workout (it's not enough).  I was able
to interest him in bike riding, but that's a short season up here and with
all of the rain we're getting these days, he hasn't been out once yet this
year.

> Now that I am older and overweight, I have tried to find something that I
> enjoy doing.  So far, no luck. One thing that I don't mind doing too much is
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> nice health club for ladies until I actually went in for a tour and could
> bearly hear the trainer for the loud, obnoxious music.

Others have suggested you bring your own headphones & music.  I second
(third, or fourth) that.  I don't always like the music that's playing at
the gym but I'm very good at tuning it out, and it's kept reasonably low
unless the owner's son is working - but I like his music :).

> I am really distraught about this because I had really planned on starting
> an exercise program.  Now, I can't seem to find any place that has the type
> of atmosphere I feel comfortable in.
>
> As for buying a bike for home, that isn't practical right now because I just
> don't have the room.  Any ideas?

How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety out
there that you could probably find something you like that would be at your
ability level.  You might be able to rent one at a video store to try out.
I get my videos from www.collagevideo.com

Don't give up looking for something.  It will definitely make the weight
loss process go smoother and is important for maintenance.

Jenn
SnugBear - 15 Jun 2004 02:28 GMT
> How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety
> out there that you could probably find something you like that would
> be at your ability level.  You might be able to rent one at a video
> store to try out. I get my videos from www.collagevideo.com

Another source of a variety of workout videos is the public library!  Find
one you like and then buy it online.

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Auntie Em - 16 Jun 2004 05:34 GMT
> How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety out
> there that you could probably find something you like that would be at your
> ability level.  You might be able to rent one at a video store to try out.
> I get my videos from www.collagevideo.com

No tv.

Em
Ignoramus23926 - 16 Jun 2004 11:36 GMT
As I said, you can lose weight without exercising, although it is not
as good as losing weight while exercising. Not wanting to exercise is
not a valid excuse for not starting to diet.

i

>> How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety out
>> there that you could probably find something you like that would be at
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>
> Em
JayJay - 16 Jun 2004 12:10 GMT
> > How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety out
> > there that you could probably find something you like that would be at
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>
> Em

well, you have a computer - does it have a DVD drive?   Videos come in DVD
too.
JMA - 16 Jun 2004 16:11 GMT
> > > How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety out
> > > there that you could probably find something you like that would be at
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> well, you have a computer - does it have a DVD drive?   Videos come in DVD
> too.

I use my laptop's DVD drive when I travel, but you have to make sure the DVD
will work in a computer (Tae Bo DVD's do NOT).

Jenn
That T Woman - 16 Jun 2004 16:29 GMT
> > > > How about some type of exercise video?  There is such a wide variety
> out
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>
> Jenn

I have some ideas to overcome that but I'd rather not discuss them in a
"open" forum.  Especially not after the sh.t storm I stirred up the last
time I brought up downloading.  You can e-mail at tonialmo at yahoo dot com
if you think you might be interested.

Tonia
Chris Braun - 15 Jun 2004 01:26 GMT
>I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
>trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
>be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I really don't enjoy
>doing anything.

How about taking walks?  You could find someplace to walk that
interests you, perhaps.  That might be looking at nature, walking in a
city and looking in store windows, walking around museums or
exhibitions, walking on the beach, or whatever.  Just getting out and
going places will help.

Chris
jmk - 15 Jun 2004 13:08 GMT
> One thing that I don't mind doing too much is
> riding a bicycle in a fitness center because it is nice and air conditioned
> (in the summer), but the problem I have with that seems to be that people
> are just compelled to make it miserable by either turning on a television
> set or blaring some type of obnoxious music.  

Well, you could
(1) bring your own music
(2) bike outside

I actually do both.  I generally enjoy biking outside more than using
the indoor equipment at the gym but the gym doens't have the
weather-related constraints of biking outside.  As a result, I go to the
gym if the weather seems like it's not going to cooperate or if I have
other plans (going to a movie tonight so went to the gym this morning,
etc.).  I use the MP3 player that is part of my PDA but I used to use a
portable CD player.  I like the MP3 player more because I can change the
mixes more easily.

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susanjoneslewis - 15 Jun 2004 22:47 GMT
Just my opinion.. but if you don't enjoy going to the gym.. don't. The
first week/month, hell.. even the first 3 months of my new WOE I didn't
"exercise" (not any set schedule/routine) I certainly didn't join a
gym.. for several reasons. 1 because I wasn't sure I wanted to make that
sort of commitment yet. 2nd because I felt like sh.t after so many years
of abusing my body with junkfood and overeating.

It was my experience when I first started my new WOL/WOE that I wanted
to keep my changes to myself. It wasn't something I wanted to share with
anyone.. friends/family or even strangers. I didn't *feel* good. I
didn't *feel* like getting any exercise. Going to a gym would have
caused alot of self doubt, embarrassment and challenges I wasn't ready
to face. That changed however, with weightloss and time.

Once you actually feel better because you are feeding/fueling your body
with better quality of food you will get more confident of course and
you will actually feel like getting up and moving. I think that taking
the bull by the horns the first day/week of dieting and doing a workout
no human could endure is just setting yourself up for failure, which
then leads to the same ole self confidence issues we all face. Once
you've established a WOE that works for you, and you take off a few lbs
you will start to feel better, and realize that you can do this.. and if
you can do this... you can get up and get moving.

Alot of the ASD'ers may disagree with me on this issue, but do this in
babysteps imo. You'll get to where you feel like moving. The changes
that occur when you've made the decision and follow through with it on a
new way of eating starts a chain reaction on so many levels. Physically
sure, but mentally/emotionally.. it's incredible. Worked for me anyhow.

Susan
260/192/140

> I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
> trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
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>
> Em
Alex - 15 Jun 2004 23:09 GMT
>Just my opinion.. but if you don't enjoy going to the gym.. don't. The
>first week/month, hell.. even the first 3 months of my new WOE I didn't
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>Susan
>260/192/140

Thoughtful post, Susan. :-)

Ally
212/181/160
MH - 19 Jun 2004 07:14 GMT
> >Just my opinion.. but if you don't enjoy going to the gym.. don't. The
> >first week/month, hell.. even the first 3 months of my new WOE I didn't
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> Ally
> 212/181/160

And it really depends upon what part of the country you live in. Here in No
California, it not only matter how your body looks but if you're *beautiful*
or not. You'll still get the bad treatment if you have a great body and a
face like a prune. Hey, the gyms in SF are like that. When I was in my best
shape over the holidays, I sure wasn't treated like the others at my gym
because they were mostly 10 years younger than me. Yeah, think of what it
had been like if my face wasn't attractive (it is!) and if I was 20 years
older!!!

The other gyms in the city aren't much different. The only difference is if
you have money, then you're treated well. heh heh....no lie, eh?

Do what makes you feel good. It makes me feel good to work out by myself and
go for great walks and hikes. Runners, as a rule are much, much nicer than
gym rats. They're a higher class of folk in my experience. If you want to
run and/or walk, get to know them, they'll help you out without the snobbish
class system that comes with gym life.

But, maybe there isn't the attitude whre you live. I hope know, it sure
wastes a lot of time.

Martha
Doug Freyburger - 16 Jun 2004 19:25 GMT
> The general consensus on exercise seems to
> be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I really don't enjoy
> doing anything.

Start doing random activities to see how you like them.  Look at
lists of hobbies, pick ones that involve some amount of movement
and drop the ones that don't.  Hello ice skating, mountain walks
and carving blocks of wood with a hatchet.  Goodbye reading,
playing chess and playing bridge.  That sort of culling.  Then
pick several that you think you might like to try.  Try them
and see.

Don't settle on just one activity because you happen to like it,
though.  Do what you like but keep trying other stuff in case
there's something else you like better.  Maybe you like biking
around with the kids, but you like even better wandering the
woods to draw stetches of different animals.  If you settled
on biking with the kids you'd never figure out the other one.

Some folks say "Think out of the box".  In this case I say
"Think out of the gym."

> I wasn't raised in a family that exercised.

Then it will take a bunch of experimentation.  No hurry; next
year will come whether you do it or not.
That T Woman - 16 Jun 2004 20:35 GMT
> > The general consensus on exercise seems to
> > be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I really don't enjoy
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> pick several that you think you might like to try.  Try them
> and see.

Intellectual stimulation is just as important as physical fitness.  You need
both to make old age, when you get there, enjoyable.  I would never tell
someone to stop reading, playing chess or bridge.  There is a time and place
for all things.  Cut back some if all you *ever* do is sit on your a.s and
read books or cheap tabloids, though.  Time spent watching the boob tube can
definitely be put to better use doing physical activities, mostly of the
time (especially since the Sopranos is over until 2006.)

Tonia
Doug Freyburger - 17 Jun 2004 18:16 GMT
> > > The general consensus on exercise seems to
> > > be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I
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> You need both to make old age, when you get there, enjoyable.  I
> would never tell someone to stop reading, playing chess or bridge.

I did specifiy "Start doing ..." but you're right to notice that I
wasn't clear enough that I was exclusively discussing additional
activities.  Add a new hobby and take its amount of activity into
account.  Don't curtail previous ones that give intellectual exercise.
Auntie Em - 18 Jun 2004 10:38 GMT
> > The general consensus on exercise seems to
> > be to "do what you enjoy doing".  The problem is that I really don't enjoy
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> pick several that you think you might like to try.  Try them
> and see.

Well, I think I can safely say, that at 49, there isn't too much that I
haven't tried.  That's is the problem.  I am not a physical person.  I don't
enjoy being physical in the sense of exercise.  My husband teases me that I
am the only person he knows that would be perfectly happy lying in bed 24
hours a day (and he is right).  I'm the person who spends 20 minutes driving
around the parking lot to get the "absolute closest spot" possible.

I have resigned myself that I MUST force myself to get some exercise or else
I am going to constantly keep gaining weight.  But doing anything outside is
completely out of the question.  My inside options are limited.  Swimming?
(there are no "adults only" pools in the area and the public pools are
screaming masses of children - especially now that school is out. But I DO
enjoy swimming very much and it would be my first choice if I could find
someplace PEACEFUL to do it.  Why must people ruin everything with their
noise.

I thought about bringing headphones to the gym and I still might do that.
Hoping that some nice classical, smooth jazz or easy listening music can
drown out the horrible "pop/hip-hop" crap that is blasted at 140db.  I can't
imagine that I could play the music loud enough to drown it out without
ruing my hearing permanently!

I appreciate the input.  I know that I have to do something soon.

Em
Ignoramus4798 - 18 Jun 2004 11:42 GMT
Would the following summary be correct:

1. You hate exercise

2. You think that without exercise, it is impossible to lose weight

3. Hence, you are not even going to try to lose weight

?

i
jayjay - 18 Jun 2004 13:07 GMT
>Would the following summary be correct:
>
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>
>i

Its called - FFID
Ignoramus4798 - 18 Jun 2004 13:46 GMT
>>Would the following summary be correct:
>>
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>
> Its called - FFID

Well, surely you have a point. What I want to point out though, is
that weight loss with next to no exercise is possible, even though it
is not optimal.

i
Auntie Em - 18 Jun 2004 21:38 GMT
> Would the following summary be correct:
>
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>
> 3. Hence, you are not even going to try to lose weight

No, that's not it.  I am really trying to eat better and LESS, (the less
part being a challenge, because I don't eat very much to begin with).  It's
just that I estimate that right, now I hardly burn any more calories during
the day than if I were sleeping! (not many more, anyway), and in order to
LOSE weight at this rate, I am going to have to eat "practically nothing",
which is going to be really difficult, because, just like everyobody else -
I get hungry.

I was thinking that if I actually found something I enjoy doing and did it,
that it would allow me to lose weight at my current level of caloric intake
without having to reduce my food to a practically non-existant level.

I am just trying to get some ideas about some sort of exercise program that
"might" be fun.  I was thinking that maybe all the years of experience that
this ng represents might offer a solution that I had not yet thought about.

It looks like, for now, I am going to go ahead and try the indoor bicycle
solution at the gym and just take headphones to hopefully drown out the
obnoxious music.

Em
Ignoramus4798 - 18 Jun 2004 21:50 GMT
>> Would the following summary be correct:
>>
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> No, that's not it.  I am really trying to eat better and LESS, (the less
> part being a challenge, because I don't eat very much to begin with).  It's

Try faithfully recording every morsel that goes into your mouth, for a
week or so, in fitday. You may be surprised. (as was everyone
before you as far as i remember)

> just that I estimate that right, now I hardly burn any more calories during
> the day than if I were sleeping!

I burn about 80% of calories the same way as you do, by just being
alive. The extra calories from exercising do not amount to much,
comparatively speaking.

> (not many more, anyway), and in order to LOSE weight at this rate, I
> am going to have to eat "practically nothing", which is going to be
> really difficult, because, just like everyobody else - I get hungry.

No, you are confused about how much you eat, most likely.

Unless you are an exceptional being who is extraordinarily interesting
for scientists, you probably eat quite a bit of food and could easily
handle eating 500 calories less per day, which is an equivalent of one
Big Mac.

> I was thinking that if I actually found something I enjoy doing and
> did it, that it would allow me to lose weight at my current level of
> caloric intake without having to reduce my food to a practically
> non-existant level.

Surely, that is one possibility. Eating less is another possibility.

> I am just trying to get some ideas about some sort of exercise
> program that "might" be fun.  I was thinking that maybe all the
> years of experience that this ng represents might offer a solution
> that I had not yet thought about.

Maybe someone else would have a great idea for you. I do not have any
ideas that have not been discussed.

> It looks like, for now, I am going to go ahead and try the indoor bicycle
> solution at the gym and just take headphones to hopefully drown out the
> obnoxious music.

Make sure that you do not spend too much money on a long term signup,
most people give up gyms. If you find that you really like exercising,
then sign up for a yearly membership.

i
Auntie Em - 19 Jun 2004 04:41 GMT
> >> Would the following summary be correct:
> >>
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>
> i

I can tell you right now what I've eaten so far today.

One slice of birthday cake 4" (tall) by 3" at the base; (very unusual as I
very rarely eat sweets).
One Tuna Fish sandwich on two slices of whole-wheat bread  (light on the
tuna fish probably about 2 ounces made with Miracle Whip).
Approx 10 potato chips
One 12 oz soda (also very unusual.  I doubt that I drink 3 sodas a week).
One Red Bull

Somehow, this doesn't seem excessive to me.  I can't imagine that it is more
than 1000 calories.

Em
Ignoramus4798 - 19 Jun 2004 05:25 GMT
> I can tell you right now what I've eaten so far today.
>
> One slice of birthday cake 4" (tall) by 3" at the base; (very unusual as I
> very rarely eat sweets).

How much did it weigh?

I am guessing that it weighed 200 grams. It is obviously a wild guess
on my part. If it contained, say, 7 calories per gram (a mixture of
fat and carbohydrates), it is 1400 calories right there.

> One Tuna Fish sandwich on two slices of whole-wheat bread  (light on the
> tuna fish probably about 2 ounces made with Miracle Whip).

say 1 oz of Miracle whip:  180 calories
2 regular slices of bread: 139 calories      
1 oz of tuna:              32 calories

> Approx 10 potato chips

say one ounce: 155 calories

> One 12 oz soda (also very unusual.  I doubt that I drink 3 sodas a week).

151 calories

> One Red Bull

110 calories

> Somehow, this doesn't seem excessive to me.  I can't imagine that it is more
> than 1000 calories.

1400 + 180 + 139 + 32 + 155 + 151 + 110 = 2167 calories

Obviously, I made a number of guesses, which could well be incorrect,
but, when you add up everything, it turns out to be not too little. If
you weigh, say, 180 pounds, and are sedentary, at 49 years of age,
2167 calories could easily maintain your weight.

i
Chris Braun - 19 Jun 2004 05:53 GMT
>> I can tell you right now what I've eaten so far today.
>>
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>on my part. If it contained, say, 7 calories per gram (a mixture of
>fat and carbohydrates), it is 1400 calories right there.

You've made a bit of an error in thinking here, maybe because you're
not a regular calorie counter.  All foods contain some amount of
water, and therefore the weight of the macronutrients they contain
does not add up to their total weight.  For example, 3 oz of chicken
breast (84g) contains 1.5g fat, no carbs, and 24g protein, for a total
of 25.5g of macronutrients.  The proportion of water in starchy foods
is less -- in cake it's fairly low, but in the icing somewhat higher.

Calorieking.com lists an average piece of chocolate cake as 3 oz (84g)
and gives that data for that piece as 320 calories, comprising 15g
fat, 42g carbs, and 4g protein -- macronutrient total 71g (and also a
higher carb/fat ratio than you assumed, hence fewer calories per
macronutrient gram).  Perhaps Auntie Em's piece was bigger than this
average piece -- I'm not a good judge of the weight of cake.  If it
were indeed 200g it would be 762 calories.  Of course, along with not
knowing the size, we also don't know if the cake she was eating was
chocolate, or how it would compare to the "average chocolate cake" in
Calorieking even if it were.

Apart from all this, I do think she was underestimating her calories.
Even with an average 320-calorie piece of chocolate cake she'd be over
1000.  

Chris
Ignoramus4798 - 19 Jun 2004 06:04 GMT
>>> I can tell you right now what I've eaten so far today.
>>>
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> chocolate, or how it would compare to the "average chocolate cake" in
> Calorieking even if it were.

Thanks, good post.

> Apart from all this, I do think she was underestimating her calories.
> Even with an average 320-calorie piece of chocolate cake she'd be over
> 1000.  

And could have miscountedthe potato chips and forgot some other food.

Food logging has its place as an analytical tool. A little bit of
effort could pay off a great deal. I am not saying that it should be
done every day, but sometimes it is good as a reality check.

i
Chris Braun - 19 Jun 2004 06:10 GMT
>Food logging has its place as an analytical tool. A little bit of
>effort could pay off a great deal. I am not saying that it should be
>done every day, but sometimes it is good as a reality check.

It's also a useful learning tool in the beginning, allowing one to
develop a better sense of the calories in different foods.

Chris
jmk - 21 Jun 2004 14:24 GMT
>>Food logging has its place as an analytical tool. A little bit of
>>effort could pay off a great deal. I am not saying that it should be
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>
> Chris

I use food logging to hold myself accountable.  That's one reason that
logging into my PDA is useful for me -- the PDA is with me most of the
time so I can log things fairly immediately.  Of course the same could
be said for pen an paper I supposed ;-)

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Auntie Em - 19 Jun 2004 10:22 GMT
> > I can tell you right now what I've eaten so far today.
> >
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> on my part. If it contained, say, 7 calories per gram (a mixture of
> fat and carbohydrates), it is 1400 calories right there.

Zowie!  Good thing I only eat this a couple of times a year!

Em
Ignoramus9812 - 19 Jun 2004 13:12 GMT
>> > I can tell you right now what I've eaten so far today.
>> >
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> Zowie!  Good thing I only eat this a couple of times a year!

Well, maybe I guessed wrong:)

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SnugBear - 19 Jun 2004 03:04 GMT
> I am just trying to get some ideas about some sort of exercise program
> that "might" be fun.  I was thinking that maybe all the years of
> experience that this ng represents might offer a solution that I had
> not yet thought about.

Is brushing your teeth fun?  Do you do it anyway?  Find exercise you can
*tolerate* and then do it till it becomes fun.  

I vote for walking.

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That T Woman - 19 Jun 2004 03:37 GMT
> > I am just trying to get some ideas about some sort of exercise program
> > that "might" be fun.  I was thinking that maybe all the years of
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> I vote for walking.

I did 30 minutes on my ski machine earlier this evening.  I put my
headphones on and listened to music on my mp3 player.  I could have been
sitting, watching tv with my DH but I know I need the exercise so I do it.
To me, it's more accepting that exercise is a necessity for a healthy body
than really loving or even enjoying it.  Because even when I'm thin someday,
I'll still need to exercise.  According to the calories per hour site, I
burned 284 calories.  Not bad for 30 minutes work. Add to that all the extra
cleaning I do to keep the house in "show condition" and I zap about 500
calories a day.

Tonia
jayjay - 18 Jun 2004 13:11 GMT
>Well, I think I can safely say, that at 49, there isn't too much that I
>haven't tried.  That's is the problem.  I am not a physical person.  I don't
>enjoy being physical in the sense of exercise.  My husband teases me that I
>am the only person he knows that would be perfectly happy lying in bed 24
>hours a day (and he is right).  I'm the person who spends 20 minutes driving
>around the parking lot to get the "absolute closest spot" possible.

Face it - if you don't like being fat, then you have to get off your
fat a.s and do something.   Otherwise - shut up and go to the fat
acceptence group.

We aren't going to sit here wasting our breath on someone who is
riddled with excuses.

>I have resigned myself that I MUST force myself to get some exercise or else
>I am going to constantly keep gaining weight.  But doing anything outside is
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>someplace PEACEFUL to do it.  Why must people ruin everything with their
>noise.

This here tells me you are not trying hard enough.    Go early in the
morning.  Go later at night.   Go to a gym pool.   There are many
options avalable.

>I thought about bringing headphones to the gym and I still might do that.
>Hoping that some nice classical, smooth jazz or easy listening music can
>drown out the horrible "pop/hip-hop" crap that is blasted at 140db.  I can't
>imagine that I could play the music loud enough to drown it out without
>ruing my hearing permanently!

This right here tells you are exaggerating beyond belief.   If you
have a problem with your gym and the noise of music - speak to
management.   If they don't comply, tell them you want out of your
membership and go to another gym.

Find a gym with a pool.  

Basically it all boils down to - the longer you make excuses (and they
are lame assed excuses at that) the longer you are going to be a fat
a.s, and the more likely you are to develop medical problems that
could kill you.

So put up or shut up.
Kasey - 18 Jun 2004 15:51 GMT
>>Well, I think I can safely say, that at 49, there isn't too much that I
haven't tried.<<

Really? I'm 52 and there are million things I haven't tried yet. I'm
eager to sample the exercise classes at the still-under-construction
gym I've joined. Pilates and belly dancing are just two that I hope to
try out.

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/257/???
Alex - 18 Jun 2004 18:56 GMT
>>>Well, I think I can safely say, that at 49, there isn't too much
>that I
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>Kasey
>365/257/???

Kasey!! Let us know how you like Pilates & Belly Dancing!! Add ballet
and you have 3 of my favorite workouts!!!! :-)

Ally
212/181/160
Renegade5 - 18 Jun 2004 13:11 GMT
Just a few of points to consider....

1) there are almost endless ways to exercise... so even though you may
think you've tried everything... truthfully, there's probably much you
haven't tried (a few suggestions: walking, tai chi, body weight
exercises, resistance bands, dancing, swimming)

2) lead an active lifestyle... take the stairs, park away from the
mall doors, walk whenever possible, etc.

3) I think when starting to exercise there is a 'momentum' effect.  In
the beginning, although it's really, really tough to do, over time
(say 6 weeks) you become much more accustomed to it

4) weight-loss may not be the only reason you want to consider
exercise (ie. consider the many other benefits)

>I have been reading a lot about weight loss lately because I am thinking of
>trying (again) to lose a little. The general consensus on exercise seems to
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>Em
 
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