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byakee - 15 Jun 2004 18:05 GMT Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should know how to exercise properly. Still, I was in a hurry this morning and didn't stretch before I walked! I started off faster than usual too, and by half of a mile, my shins were aching! I only managed about 1.5 miles today, and now I'm hurting. I just hope I'm back to normal by Thursday (I try to walk 3-4x per week).
I feel so silly...
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Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 229 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199
jayjay - 15 Jun 2004 18:38 GMT >Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock >in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I feel so silly... start stretching now. And stretch periodically thru-out the day and you'll probably find you recover quicker.
Dally - 15 Jun 2004 19:38 GMT > Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock > in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > I feel so silly... Actually, the current thinking is that you should warm up and THEN stretch. More people get injured by stretching cold than get injured by working out without stretching.
I typically run 1/2 a mile, stop to stretch, then do the rest of my workout.
Dally
byakee - 15 Jun 2004 22:28 GMT Hark! I heard Dally <dally@myself.com> say:
> > Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock > > in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I typically run 1/2 a mile, stop to stretch, then do the rest of my workout. Well, I'll be! Thanks for the update... :-)
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Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 229 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199
jayjay - 15 Jun 2004 22:39 GMT >> Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock >> in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Dally well, if you want to get nitpicky... the current thinking is to stretch often thru-out the day. :-)
Dally - 16 Jun 2004 02:38 GMT >>>Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock >>>in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > well, if you want to get nitpicky... the current thinking is to > stretch often thru-out the day. :-) Hey, get outta my head, that wasn't what *I* was currently thinking!
Dally, currently thinking about stretching right before (imminent) bed
Chris Braun - 16 Jun 2004 04:20 GMT >Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock >in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >I feel so silly... Ice is very good for shin splints. My trainer advises freezing a paper cup or styrofoam cup full of water, then rubbing it up and down your shin. It really helps.
Chris (btdt :-) )
byakee - 16 Jun 2004 05:44 GMT Hark! I heard Chris Braun <braun_chris@mindspring.com> say:
> >Although my current figure doesn't show it, I was a bit of a jock > >in high school (Phys. Ed., Track & Field, Vollyeball); so I should [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Chris (btdt :-) ) Thanks Chris -- my legs feel a lot better this evening, but we'll see about tomorrow (as it usually takes about 24 hours for me to really hurt).
I'm feeling really down tonight. I'm tired and ache all over. And I was doing so well with my diet up until last Friday; since then I can't seem to get back on track! I have the best intentions, but I get hungry at night and just ate a bowl of popcorn with real butter. (One of my weaknesses.) *Sigh* Well, I just have to try and do better tomorrow...
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byakee - 18 Jun 2004 20:38 GMT Hark! I heard byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) say:
> I'm feeling really down tonight. I'm tired and ache all over. And I > was doing so well with my diet up until last Friday; since then I can't > seem to get back on track! I have the best intentions, but I get hungry > at night and just ate a bowl of popcorn with real butter. (One of my > weaknesses.) *Sigh* Well, I just have to try and do better tomorrow... I posted this on Tuesday; just wanted to mention that I'm doing much better now (it's Friday). I finally made myself get on the scale Wednesday morning, and had gained back 5 pounds in 5 days! I took into account that one's weight does fluctuate, but it still got me to start eating better again. I lost two pounds the first day, (which tells me they were water), and another 1/2 pound yesterday, so while I'm not happy about the whole episode, at least I'm back on track.
Does/did this ever happen to the rest of you? I mean losing your way for a few days, then getting back to it. I feel like such a failure, yet I'm also pleased with myself for not letting it go on for more than 5 days/pounds -- I feel that if I can keep myself honest in this fashion, it's possible that maintainence will work for me when I'm done -- or am I totally off base?
I'm sure some of you may wonder why I'm worried about maintainence when I've still got a lot of weight to lose -- losing weight has always been fairly easy, it's keeping it off that has me worried. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance... :-)
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Ignoramus4798 - 18 Jun 2004 20:42 GMT > Hark! I heard byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) say: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > always been fairly easy, it's keeping it off that has me worried. > Any thoughts? Thanks in advance... :-) How much do you eat normally (during dieting)? How many calories per day? Are you perhaps starving yourself?
I experienced this willpower breakdown a few times when I fasted for 36 hours, at the end of the evening (24-28 hours) I get an irresistible urge to eat. I give in a little bit. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it does not happen.
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byakee - 18 Jun 2004 21:09 GMT Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say:
> > Hark! I heard byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) say: <snip>
> > Does/did this ever happen to the rest of you? I mean losing your > > way for a few days, then getting back to it. I feel like such a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > How much do you eat normally (during dieting)? How many calories per > day? Are you perhaps starving yourself? Not in a nutritional sense, no -- I eat 1500 kcals per day. But I do get terribly hungry after doing this for more than a week. Then my control gets pretty thin.
> I experienced this willpower breakdown a few times when I fasted for > 36 hours, at the end of the evening (24-28 hours) I get an > irresistible urge to eat. I give in a little bit. Sometimes it happens > and sometimes it does not happen. I think I need to just give in a bit, and not go whole hog (for lack of a better expression)... ;-)
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Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 232 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199
Ignoramus4798 - 18 Jun 2004 21:38 GMT > Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say: >> > Hark! I heard byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) say: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > get terribly hungry after doing this for more than a week. Then my > control gets pretty thin. At 232 lbs, you eat 1500 cals per day? Or, 6.46 calories per pound?
That's way less than I could handle with my own willpower...
Have you thought about maybe eating a bit more?
Like adding a 200 cal evening snack, or some such?
>> I experienced this willpower breakdown a few times when I fasted for >> 36 hours, at the end of the evening (24-28 hours) I get an [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I think I need to just give in a bit, and not go whole hog (for lack > of a better expression)... ;-) I tend to think along the same lines, myself...
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byakee - 20 Jun 2004 01:26 GMT Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say:
> > Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say: <snip>
> >> How much do you eat normally (during dieting)? How many calories per > >> day? Are you perhaps starving yourself? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Like adding a 200 cal evening snack, or some such? <snip>
I think you're probably right. My doctor (an internist) told me to limit myself1500 calories per day, but when I stick to it religously, I lose 2.5-3.5 pounds per week and can't stick with it for more than a couple of weeks, if that. I think on Monday, I'll push my limit up to 1750 calories for a couple of weeks, and see how it goes. I have to remember that it's about long, not short term results. Thanks for the suggestion... :-)
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Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 232 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199
byakee - 20 Jun 2004 02:53 GMT Hark! I heard byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) say:
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> I think on Monday, I'll push my limit up to 1750 calories for a > couple of weeks, and see how it goes. BTW, I checked an online calorie calculator:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
At an activity level of "moderately active" (moderate exercise 3-5 times per week), I need 2747 calories/day to maintain my current weight. So cutting back to 1750 cals equals a 997 calorie deficit per day. At 3500 calories per pound of fat, that means I should lose between 1.5 and 2 pounds per week. That sounds much easier than the 1500 calorie/2.5-3.5 pound loss per week I've been trying to maintain.
If I'm not figuring this correctly, someone please let me know... :-)
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janice - 20 Jun 2004 10:35 GMT >Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say: >> > Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >couple of weeks, and see how it goes. I have to remember that it's >about long, not short term results. Thanks for the suggestion... :-) A way of eating you can't stick to because you're hungry is not very useful. Better to eat a little more and lose more slowly if that's the alternative.
janice (who often wonders why she doesn't take her own advice)
byakee - 21 Jun 2004 18:21 GMT Hark! I heard janice@london.uk (janice) say:
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> >I think on Monday, I'll push my limit up to 1750 calories for a > >couple of weeks, and see how it goes. I have to remember that it's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > useful. Better to eat a little more and lose more slowly if that's > the alternative. Yup, exactly right.
> janice > (who often wonders why she doesn't take her own advice) Heh, I think you're in the majority on that one, Janice -- I know few people who take their own advice... ;-)
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Ignoramus26125 - 20 Jun 2004 13:32 GMT > Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say: >> > Hark! I heard Ignoramus4798 <ignoramus4798@NOSPAM.4798.invalid> say: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > couple of weeks, and see how it goes. I have to remember that it's > about long, not short term results. Thanks for the suggestion... :-) Hey, your body, your science experiment! I'd be interested to hear how 1700 calories works...
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byakee - 21 Jun 2004 18:25 GMT Hark! I heard Ignoramus26125 <ignoramus26125@NOSPAM.26125.invalid> say:
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> > I think on Monday, I'll push my limit up to 1750 calories for a > > couple of weeks, and see how it goes. I have to remember that it's > > about long, not short term results. Thanks for the suggestion... :-)
> Hey, your body, your science experiment! I'd be interested to hear how > 1700 calories works... Today I'm starting the 1700 (not 1750) calories per day plan. And that being said, I'm going to go mow the lawn before it gets too hot. I'll post an update on Saturday.
Thanks again, ASD, for the encouragement and advice -- you guys are indispensible... :-)
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Chris Braun - 18 Jun 2004 21:32 GMT >Does/did this ever happen to the rest of you? I mean losing your >way for a few days, then getting back to it. I feel like such a >failure, yet I'm also pleased with myself for not letting it go >on for more than 5 days/pounds -- I feel that if I can keep myself >honest in this fashion, it's possible that maintainence will work >for me when I'm done -- or am I totally off base? I have eaten in a similar pattern, but haven't considered it "losing my way", since it was sort of intentional splurging while on vacation or some such. I've never had trouble going right back on plan, and because I know that I will, I never get mad at myself about it.
This may be sort of the right idea for maintenance, but you don't want a sort of constant binge/abstain cycle, of course. But the idea of catching any gain early and reversing it seems right on target.
>I'm sure some of you may wonder why I'm worried about maintainence >when I've still got a lot of weight to lose -- losing weight has >always been fairly easy, it's keeping it off that has me worried. >Any thoughts? Thanks in advance... :-) Well, I asked a similar question the other day and got some good answers. I'll let you know how it goes for me :-).
Chris 262/145/ (145-150)
janice - 18 Jun 2004 21:44 GMT >Hark! I heard byakee@COLDmail.com (byakee) say: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >always been fairly easy, it's keeping it off that has me worried. >Any thoughts? Thanks in advance... :-) Some of this could have been written by me:) It's nothing for me to regain at a pound a day. Where we differ is that if that happens, it nearly always takes me quite a bit longer than 5 days to get back on track. So, from that point of view, you've done well. There's nothing strange about thinking ahead to maintenance. I sometimes wonder how I would ever cope with it, and I think it's important that we learn lessons along the way that will help us maintain when the time comes.
janice
byakee - 20 Jun 2004 01:22 GMT Hark! I heard janice@london.uk (janice) say:
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> Some of this could have been written by me:) It's nothing for me to > regain at a pound a day. Where we differ is that if that happens, it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > important that we learn lessons along the way that will help us > maintain when the time comes. Thanks for the encouragement, Janice & Chris -- I appreciate it! Having this group makes it so much easier because you guys are either going or been through it yourselves. I think Ig is probably right; 1500 is just too little for me, right now (see other post).
Thanks again... :-)
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cooper - 21 Jun 2004 18:56 GMT > Does/did this ever happen to the rest of you? I mean losing your > way for a few days, then getting back to it. I feel like such a > failure, yet I'm also pleased with myself for not letting it go > on for more than 5 days/pounds -- I feel that if I can keep myself > honest in this fashion, it's possible that maintainence will work > for me when I'm done -- or am I totally off base? No, you're not off base; for this past Father's Day I didn't watch what I had at all- and couple that up with a few Ethnic festivals we've had around town this weekend it's safe to say I didn't stick to my plan either. I accepted it- it was darn good food! I still watched how _much_ I ate, but I sampled just about everything that was there. Not beating myself up for it either- just going to go about my normal routine for the week. Well, for the day, really- I have to take it one step at a time. But I will admit, for me it's awfully hard to get back on track after a weekend like that. <grin> But once I'm on board, I'm ok.
When I first decided to give this a serious go I accepted the fact that I would allow myself days that I can relax a little. I have to realize that one or two days isn't going to undo everything I've done over the past 4 months, and that weight loss isn't a race. It'll happen, eventually.
Kim
byakee - 21 Jun 2004 20:46 GMT Hark! I heard "cooper" <noone@home.com> say:
> > Does/did this ever happen to the rest of you? I mean losing your > > way for a few days, then getting back to it. I feel like such a > > failure, yet I'm also pleased with myself for not letting it go > > on for more than 5 days/pounds -- I feel that if I can keep myself > > honest in this fashion, it's possible that maintainence will work > > for me when I'm done -- or am I totally off base? <snip>
> When I first decided to give this a serious go I accepted the fact that I > would allow myself days that I can relax a little. How do your family/friends act when you do this? If I say "I'm not counting calories today", I get this look like "uh-oh!". I really hate that! I know they're going by my past 10 years as a morbidly obese person, but I have lost quite a bit -- they don't seem to take that into account.
> I have to realize that > one or two days isn't going to undo everything I've done over the past 4 > months, and that weight loss isn't a race. It'll happen, eventually. I agree completely... :-)
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janice - 22 Jun 2004 07:00 GMT >Hark! I heard "cooper" <noone@home.com> say:
>> When I first decided to give this a serious go I accepted the fact that I >> would allow myself days that I can relax a little. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >obese person, but I have lost quite a bit -- they don't seem to >take that into account. Personally, I deal with this by never telling anyone I'm counting calories in the first place - not even DH, although I'm sure he notices differences in my food intake some days. I have enough problems without feeling I'm being "watched" to see if I'm sticking to my plan. I just don't tell anyone what the plan is or even that there is one. Perhaps that sounds strange, but I've done all that in the past and it's not the way I want to go.
janice
byakee - 22 Jun 2004 22:03 GMT Hark! I heard janice@london.uk (janice) say:
> >Hark! I heard "cooper" <noone@home.com> say:
> >> When I first decided to give this a serious go I accepted the fact that I > >> would allow myself days that I can relax a little. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > is one. Perhaps that sounds strange, but I've done all that in the > past and it's not the way I want to go. It's not strange, I just wish I'd have thought of it... :-)
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Alex - 22 Jun 2004 22:45 GMT >>Hark! I heard "cooper" <noone@home.com> say: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >janice I do the same thing, Janice! Only hubby knows, since he does all the food prep and serving. At this point, people are asking what I'm doing and I usually just say I'm watching what I eat. I only share that I'm counting calories with very few. I find I do better that way. Glad I'm not the only one! :-)
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janice - 22 Jun 2004 23:46 GMT >>>Hark! I heard "cooper" <noone@home.com> say: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >Ally >212/181/160 Thanks Ally, you make me feel better. But I'd tell DH if that meant he'd do the cooking:)
janice
SnugBear - 22 Jun 2004 12:10 GMT > How do your family/friends act when you do this? If I say "I'm not > counting calories today", I get this look like "uh-oh!". I really > hate that! I know they're going by my past 10 years as a morbidly > obese person, but I have lost quite a bit -- they don't seem to > take that into account. I look them in the eye, smile sweetly and say "I can have anything I want - I just can't have it all *today*"
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byakee - 22 Jun 2004 22:04 GMT Hark! I heard SnugBear <snugNObear@midmaine.com> say:
> > How do your family/friends act when you do this? If I say "I'm not > > counting calories today", I get this look like "uh-oh!". I really [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I look them in the eye, smile sweetly and say "I can have anything I want > - I just can't have it all *today*" I love that answer! Thanks, Laurie, that's a great one...
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