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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / July 2004Gastric bypass surgery in Mexico?
My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of pocket, and stand to pay $10,000 instead of $20,000 this way.) I'm skeptical about going to a Mexican doctor, though, as I'm wondering if safety regulations and such will be as good as back in the U.S. Searching for info on this doctor hasn't turned up much aside from his own Website. This is Dr. Arturo Rodriguez, with the Grupo Endo Bariatrico. Here's his site: http://www.thebariatric.com/ Does anyone have any experience with Mexican doctors in general, or better yet, Dr. Rodriguez specifically? Any resources I can go to and check out his background? I'm trusting my girlfriend's life to this guy, so I want to do my homework. Many thanks! Does she realize she is still going to have to reduce calories and exercise after the surgery? Look at Carnie Wilson, she didn't do what she should have and she put the weight back on. If your GF thinks this is a way around that, she needs to think again. > My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) > with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > check out his background? I'm trusting my girlfriend's life to this > guy, so I want to do my homework. Many thanks! > Look at Carnie Wilson, she didn't do what she should >have and she put the weight back on. she did? i thought she was pregnant! ~Kat "The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese." >> Look at Carnie Wilson, she didn't do what she should >>have and she put the weight back on. > >she did? i thought she was pregnant! I didn't know she had done that either - afterall, she is currently promoting weight loss surgery in commercials. I don't think they'd have her as a spokes person if she was regaining the weight. >I didn't know she had done that either - afterall, she is currently >promoting weight loss surgery in commercials. > >I don't think they'd have her as a spokes person if she was regaining >the weight. She was on some morning show a week or 2 ago. Her old band is back together. They sang and she looked bigger than she was before, but I'm certain it was due to pregnancy. ~Kat "The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese." >>I didn't know she had done that either - afterall, she is currently >>promoting weight loss surgery in commercials. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >"The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese." Based on her "official website" where she posted an update in May, there was no mention of pregnancy. But, who knows. It appears they (the band) are currently making the rounds of talks shows - promoting their new album. She was on 3 shows last week, according to her website. Anyhow, here are some recent photos. Hope the link works. http://www.wireimage.com/GalleryListing.asp?navtyp=SRH&logsrch=1 Ya know, I've never really paid much attention to her, other than seeing her go thru this whole weight loss thing and promoting the anti-obesity thing. > >>I didn't know she had done that either - afterall, she is currently > >>promoting weight loss surgery in commercials. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > seeing her go thru this whole weight loss thing and promoting the > anti-obesity thing. She's not pregnant, one of the other ones (her sister) is. She has gained some weight back lately, but mostly it's been a tabloid thing just riding the hell out of her and taking very unflattering pictures. > >>I didn't know she had done that either - afterall, she is currently > >>promoting weight loss surgery in commercials. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > seeing her go thru this whole weight loss thing and promoting the > anti-obesity thing. I saw a thread on alt.gossip.celebrities. IIRC, her sister Wendy is pregnant and a troll was complaining that Wendy shouldn't be performing on tv looking like a beached whale. In the link to a photo, Carnie looked fine but Wendy did look like she was having a very normal pregnancy unlike the "Hollywood" ones where they hardly gain any weight at all. Tonia >>> Look at Carnie Wilson, she didn't do what she should >>>have and she put the weight back on. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I don't think they'd have her as a spokes person if she was regaining >the weight. Hey - following up my own post. If Carnie is supposedly "gaining" weight then why has she been offered to pose for playboy? http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/Entertainment/Wilson030530_Carnie.html >>>> Look at Carnie Wilson, she didn't do what she should >>>>have and she put the weight back on. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/Entertainment/Wilson030530_Carnie.html I guess it comes out this August. Interesting. And Carnie does want kids. Here's an article about the weight issue: http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/0602wilson.html Ally 212/181/160 Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? >IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass >site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential >negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial >Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about >the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. Hi Kasey, In a fairly quick scan, I couldn't find the Weight Loss Memorial Section. Can you provide instructions on how to find it? Thanks, Chris Hi Chris: Yes, obesityhelp.com is very cluttered and hard to navigate. I hope this link works: http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/wlsmemorial.phtml Have a handkerchief ready. Kasey??? 365/257 > Hi Kasey, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks, > Chris >Hi Chris: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Have a handkerchief ready. Oh my goodness -- this is really sad. Is this one of the things that made you decide not to go with surgery? I'm so glad you didn't! One man at my office -- someone I didn't really know but saw around the building all the time -- had weight loss surgery and died the next day of a blood clot. It looks like that's what happened to several of these people as well. But some had much more lingering and awful deaths. If anyone I know is ever considering this I'll make sure they read this. Chris Hark! I heard Chris Braun <braun_chris@mindspring.com> say: > >http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/wlsmemorial.phtml > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > deaths. If anyone I know is ever considering this I'll make sure they > read this. Makes me glad I decided against surgery and opted for diet and exercise, even though it wasn't *my* idea. Scary and sad...  SignatureJ.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail) Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 232 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199 >> But some had much more lingering and awful deaths.<< My would-be surgeon said this to me: "The lucky ones are those who die quickly from blot clots." Chris, there were many, many factors that played a role in my not having gastric bypass. Perhaps one day I'll post the long, tedious story. But the biggest shock to me was when my surgeon said 50 percent of his patients "ate their way back to morbid obesity" within five years of having gastric bypass. He left the facility where I intended to have the surgery and started a program that requires everyone to undergo six months of nutritional and psychological counseling and exercise guidance before bariatic surgery is even discussed. That seems far more effective than doctors who just do the surgery and leave their patients to fend for themselves afterward. As always, YMMV. Kasey 365/257/??? >>> But some had much more lingering and awful >deaths.<< [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >As always, YMMV. Well, fortunately my mileage varied in a dramatically different direction :-). Seriously, I never even considered WLS for a nanosecond. It honestly didn't bother me that much being fat! Of course now that I lost the weight I'm glad of it, but it wouldn't have been worth enough to me to do WLS. My perspective may have been different, of course, if the weight was causing me any serious distress or health problem. I was surprised, when reading the memorials to those who died during the surgery, to see that there were people who lost their life to this surgery who didn't start out weighing any more than I did. I don't know what different issues they might have faced, but it seemed like such a tragic waste of a life. Chris 262/145/ (145-150) >I don't >know what different issues they might have faced, I think that says it all. Lee Rodgers Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org CHAT M-Th 6PM Pacific http://www.lowcarb.org/parachat.html > I was surprised, when reading the memorials to those who died during > the surgery, to see that there were people who lost their life to this > surgery who didn't start out weighing any more than I did. My officemate had the surgery at ~275 & 5'10". He nearly died from respitory shock, lost all the weight in a month-long coma, and now can't eat normally. Heywood 232/195/182 > But the biggest shock to me was when my surgeon said 50 percent of his > patients "ate their way back to morbid obesity" within five years of > having gastric bypass. In my WOE, my stomach isn't giving me problems at all, even with a 1000 kcal/day deficit. I haven't heard one peep out of it. My blood sugar / energy levels come and go, which is the main issue, but WLS wouldn't help that anyway. > He left the facility where I intended to have the surgery and started > a program that requires everyone to undergo six months of nutritional > and psychological counseling and exercise guidance before bariatic > surgery is even discussed. That seems far more effective than doctors > who just do the surgery and leave their patients to fend for > themselves afterward. For $10,000 one would think one could get the advice and hands-on work to get at least halfway to one's body goals. Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? > Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as > recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > As always, YMVV. There are a bunch of us here. When all is said and done you have to live the life of a thin person if you want to be thin. The answer to losing weight isn't to get cut, it's to learn how to live like a thin person. If your girlfriend wants to be a thin person all she has to do is start acting like one more often than not. Eat like a thin person, do activities that a thin person would do... you don't manage to transform your life in one day or one sitting, but you have six choices a day on whether to eat like a thin person or not and seven days a week to practice getting in some exercise... if you keep at it you can figure it out. Without being cut. Without spending $10,000. And the thing is, even if you DO get cut and DO spend $10,000, you're still back to having to figure out how to eat like a thin person and exercise like a thin person. But now you've got surgery complications, you're poor, and you have all the problems associated with rapid fat loss. Here are some of the problems associated with rapid fat loss. 1. Your skin gets saggy/baggy. Skin is very slow to retract and if you cut off it's food supply quickly then you may never get it to shrink. Slow fat loss is the only way to avoid looking like a sharpei. If you think being a ball of blubber is bad, wait until you're an empty sack of skin. (I have no idea how Carnie Wilson can contemplate posing for playboy: being thin and looking good naked are two very, very, very different things for those of us who've lost a lot of weight.) 2. Fat is hormonely active. We're finding that pre-menopausal women who lose a lot of fat have some serious hormonal reactioins. They're thrown into perimenopause, they lose their fertility, they get adrenal overload... the picture still isn't clear but your estrogen levels get pretty out of whack. This has an impact on your ability to concentrate and your mental sharpness, too. 3. You lose muscle mass along with fat. When you lose weight slowly you can partition the weight loss more towards fat. After all, it doesn't matter if you end up a size 12 with lots of muscle if you're sleek and your skin fits your body and you've got muscles padding your bones instead of fat. I'd sure rather be a fit size 12 than a baggy empty skin and bones size 6. 4. You're ill. Not getting enough nutrients means your body is just plain sick. Instead of making a journey towards wellness, you're making a journey towards chronic illness. 5. When you're done you're still crippled by the fat band and still can't eat normally. Ever again. If you learn how to eat and exercise differently then you just know how and you end up a healthy normal person, rather than a cripple, in the end. I do so hate to see people do this to themselves. But a food and their money are soon parted, and no fool is more willing to spend money than the fools wanting a magic weight loss cure. Dally 244/176/169 > 1. Your skin gets saggy/baggy. Skin is very slow to retract and if you > cut off it's food supply quickly then you may never get it to shrink. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > playboy: being thin and looking good naked are two very, very, very > different things for those of us who've lost a lot of weight.) She had a tummy tuck about a year or two after reaching goal weight. I saw a 20/20 special about her (last year?) and she talked about having it and losing an additional 20 lbs with it. Jenn Hey Dally, Do you have any websites that you can recommend that supports this? I am trying to get pregnant now. It would be nice to see all the challenges I am up against in addition to my PCOS. I don't need additional fertility challenges! The reproductive endo I am working with didn't mention anything about this and I start fertility drugs next month! He knows I've lost a bunch of weight too. Thanks! > 2. Fat is hormonely active. We're finding that pre-menopausal women who > lose a lot of fat have some serious hormonal reactioins. They're thrown > into perimenopause, they lose their fertility, they get adrenal > overload... the picture still isn't clear but your estrogen levels get > pretty out of whack. This has an impact on your ability to concentrate > and your mental sharpness, too. > Dally > 244/176/169 Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one, as recently as nine months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one only eight months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one only eight months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one such person only eight months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one such person only eight months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, more healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one such person only eight months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, more healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? Whoa! Computer hiccup. Sorry. Kasey > Whoa! Computer hiccup. Sorry. > > Kasey I'm starting to realize why they asked you to leave! :-) Dally Woo boy, did you rattle the right (or perhaps wrong) cage! Back when I was planning to undergo gastric bypass, I spent a lot of time at obesityhelp.com. That site is an excellent resource for all aspects of gastric bypass, told by the people who have have been through and are going through the experience. There people on that site who have had the surgery in Mexico and probably at the clinic you list. Go there and research. IMHO, however, obesityhelp.com is very much a rah-rah gastric bypass site. While there is token attention paid to the mryiad potential negatives of gastric bypass (be sure to read the Weight Loss Memorial Section, which will terrify you), sometimes serious questions about the dangers of this surgery are discouraged. I was shouted down and driven off that site (I was asked not to post anymore by the site managers) because I asked some very pointed questions about the safety of having gastric bypass surgery in Mexico. Believe me, I completely understand why people want to have this surgery in Mexico. Many health insurance companies refuse to pay for the surgery, even with doctor recommendations, and $10,000 appears to be a bargain. But do you and your girlfriend really want a "bargain" when it comes to major abdominal surgery? Here are just a few things to consider: What will the clinic do if your girlfriend develops complications, which happens in as many as 25 percent of gastric bypass surgeries? How close is the nearest trauma hospital? How would your girlfriend get to such a hospital? Who would pay for it? What if she develops life-threatening complications and has to be MedEvac'd to the U.S.? Who would pay for that? Finally, I know most people considering gastric bypass (I was one such person only eight months ago) don't want to hear that eating less and exercising more can work, even if they've tried and failed a hundred times. But I am living, breathing, healthy, UNCUT proof that even someone who was morbidly obese for 20 years can lose the weight. As always, YMVV. Kasey 365/257/??? >My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) >with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >check out his background? I'm trusting my girlfriend's life to this >guy, so I want to do my homework. Many thanks! If you are going to self pay be sure to do ALL of your homework first. Investigate the duodenal switch before opting for the more common RNY procedure. Duodenal Switch Information Zone! http://www.duodenalswitch.com The Differences Between the (duodenal switch) BPD/DS and the RNY Procedures http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Procedure/DS_vs__RNY/ds_vs__rny.html Lee Rodgers Lowcarb Retreat http://www.lowcarb.org I had a tooth pulled in Mexico once when we were there visiting. And I can assure you it will never happen again. Savings or no savings. It was a horrifying experience. Susan 260/192/140 > My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) > with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > check out his background? I'm trusting my girlfriend's life to this > guy, so I want to do my homework. Many thanks! > My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) > with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > check out his background? I'm trusting my girlfriend's life to this > guy, so I want to do my homework. Many thanks! LISTEN TO THE PERSON THAT HAD THE TOOTH PULLED!!!. I'm from Texas and have heard a few horror stories about "doctors" from Mexico. > > My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) > > with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > LISTEN TO THE PERSON THAT HAD THE TOOTH PULLED!!!. I'm from Texas and > have heard a few horror stories about "doctors" from Mexico. Where in Texas? There's quite a few of us in the group. I'm currently in Lubbock about to move to Uvalde County and others are in the DFW area, Houston and the Hill Country. Tonia 221/177/130 I think they are talking about me, It was a horrendous adventure across the border for me having dental work. Anyway, as for the OP to this thread, they need to read the other one I wrote about my best friend and her WLS. In fact, I'll respost it, the OP of that was some troll/witch touting how she had WLS by a. cheating the insurance folks and b. was laughing at the "fatties" sweating their a.ses off at the gym. See below.. Susan 280/191/165(mini)/140 > I had to go thru hell for this surgery. First, my insurance company > refused to cover it because I didn't meet the minimum weight guidelines ( > > 100 lbs over) I spent weeks trying to gain 40 lbs so I would make the cut. > Then, I couldn't find a psych consult which would be covered by my > insurance. The doctor (Dr. Sweet of the SWLC in Reading, PA) was very nice > and waived it. Ta-da! I'm now thin, and didn't have to spend a single day > at the gym. Although I do drive by there to laugh at all the fatties > sweating their a.ses off.... > > Susan :) *ahem* First of all, your attitude gives us Susan's a bad name.. Secondly I just sat here and had to laugh and shake my head at your post. Troll or not, if you had the surgery like you said you did you know first hand the horrors of what can and will happen when you have to live on nothing but mashed potatoes and gravy because your pouch can't tolerate anything else. While your "dumping" you can read below my comments. I considered the surgery for over a year, and watched my best friend go through it on a daily basis from start to finish. I attended her support group with her every Thursday night 6 months to her surgery till she was 3 months out. I held her hand for the first 3 weeks, I watched her go from a "fattie" as you called it to a thin person. I also watched her skin become almost grey from malnutrition. I watched her become gaunt and exhausted *all* the time. I watched her lose her hair. I also watched her family fall apart because they couldn't deal with her emotional/mental state as she transpired into someone they didn't even know anymore much less LIKE. I watched her husband leave her (he fell in love with a woman who wasn't perfect and was pretty damned happy with her the way she was) I watched her try to cover her thin body with clothes because her skin was hanging down over her kneecaps and like batwings on her arms because she refused to exercise. I watched her breasts go from a 38d to an a-cup of skin and a nipple. I watched her bank account go completely to hell because she was spending helter skelter on clothes to do so and exercise equipment she will never use. Because she had no plan. I watched her go from a beautiful "fattie" who I loved very much to a thin bitch who thought she knew it all. I also watched her try to get cosmetic surgery afterwards but is being refused. Know why? because she was SO malnutrition that they felt she would die on the operating table if they did. So drive by my gym if you'd like.. and watch me sweating my a.s off.. my NICE tanned, glowing a.s. And while you're at it, take a look at my lovely knees, the skin is where it should be! Also take a look at my sparkly eyes, see how happy they are, and healthy? Please admire my shiny healthy hair. Stop on in and chat with me, I'm a very uplifting wonderful person to be around with a great outlook on life and my health. Come to my dinner table with me.. My family and I eat a bounty of healthy delicious meals everyday in our happy home. Take the time while you're in my neighborhood to ask my friends and associates what type of person I am. Come take a brisk evening walk with me say maybe 4-5 miles, neah.. lets do SIX.. Think you can keep up? Only thing I won't invite you into is my bedroom at night where my SO and I have some of the most amazing sex we've ever had since I've become a healthier happier person. But you're welcome to check out my medicine cabinet now that the Tums, sleeping pills, high bloodpressure meds, diabetes meds, depression meds, diuretics, scammy weightloss meds are gone. Here, have a carrot stick.. No? can't digest it? too bad. ;) Susan 260/192/140 > My girlfriend is planning gastric bypass surgery (laparoscopically) > with a doctor in Monterrey, Mexico. (We're paying for this out of > pocket, and stand to pay $10,000 instead of $20,000 this way.) I find it shocking that people actually value WLS as much as eg. a 2 month trip around the world. This is just an idea, but how about setting a half-way goal, eg. if she wants to lose 150lbs, shoot for 75. Take the $10,000 and spend it when she makes it halfway. With half the weight gone she'll have a lot more energy and strength, even though being still overweight, plenty of strength to do the tourist thing whereever you would go. Plan B would be to take the $10,000 and hire a personal trainer. $10,000 would pay for ~200hrs or more, nearly 40 weeks at 5hrs/week. I had surgery with dr. rodriguez in mexico. My experience was great, better then I would ever get here. |
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