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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / June 2004Aaargh!
2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV when a KFC ad came on............... How can I get over this? Thanks! :) Rachel Just how bad is your hunger? Maybe there is nothing wrong with you. What did you eat yesterday and today? How many calories? My feeling is that if you stare longingly at KFCads, you are way too hungry and likely eat too little. You have several months to go even if you plan on losing only 30 lbs, being so miserable will prevent you from completing this. But, until we know the required information, we cannot form an informed opinion! i > 2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV > when a KFC ad came on............... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks! :) > Rachel I don't know if you are or are not crash dieting (trying to lose weight in a hurry). Just in case if you are, at 18, here's something relevant. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=97&ncid=751&e=6&u=/hsn/20040616/ hl_hsn/teendietingmayleadtoadultobesity ``Teen Dieting May Lead to Adult Obesity Wed Jun 16, 7:01 PM ET Add Health - HealthDay to My Yahoo! By Randy Dotinga HealthDay Reporter WEDNESDAY, June 16 (HealthDayNews) -- New research suggests that the dieting habits of teenage girls offer a crystal ball into their futures. The news isn't good: Those who try the hardest to lose weight as adolescents are most likely to become obese adults. Yahoo! Health Have questions about your health? Find answers here. The reason for the link isn't entirely clear. But it's possible that early dieting may disrupt the metabolism of teen girls, setting them up for obesity later in life, said study co-author Joanne Ikeda, co-director of the University of California, Berkeley's Center for Weight & Health. ... There is some thought that continuous dieting, particularly with rather severe caloric restriction, forces the metabolism to be more efficient -- to lose less energy as heat and capture more for fueling the body. And the net result is that it is harder to lose weight and keep it off," Jones said. The problem, she added, is that fad diets often focus on quick weight loss, which requires great reductions in calories, instead of "the rather unpopular way to lose weight -- very slowly." Ideally, people shouldn't lose more than a pound of weight a week, she said. '' > I don't know if you are or are not crash dieting (trying to lose > weight in a hurry). Just in case if you are, at 18, here's something > relevant. Thanks for the info, I'm making sure that I do it in a good way! Seen far too many of my friends do it and at the end of their "diet", they just looked sullen, their skin was bad, eyes dull... http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=97&ncid=751&e=6&u=/hsn/20040 616/hl_hsn/teendietingmayleadtoadultobesity > ``Teen Dieting May Lead to Adult Obesity > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > shouldn't lose more than a pound of weight a week, she said. > '' >> I don't know if you are or are not crash dieting (trying to lose >> weight in a hurry). Just in case if you are, at 18, here's something [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > too many of my friends do it and at the end of their "diet", they just > looked sullen, their skin was bad, eyes dull... and binging and vomiting in addition... I am glad that you want to do it right! i > Just how bad is your hunger? It's not too bad, I ended up having a little sandwich and all is well :) > Maybe there is nothing wrong with you. What did you eat yesterday and > today? How many calories? I'm sticking to a 1200 calories a day diet. Yesterday and today so far, are both at 1200. > My feeling is that if you stare longingly at KFCads, you are way too > hungry and likely eat too little. You have several months to go even > if you plan on losing only 30 lbs, being so miserable will prevent you > from completing this. I think it's just a start-of-diet thing, my body adjusting to the less calorie intake. I'll be ok. ;) > But, until we know the required information, we cannot form an > informed opinion! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks! :) > > Rachel >> Just how bad is your hunger? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I'm sticking to a 1200 calories a day diet. Yesterday and today so far, are > both at 1200. You are 180 pounds, right? And 18 years old? Then you most likely would be able to eat, say, 1600 calories and still lose weight very well. Especially if you exercise a little every day, like walking for one hour. > I think it's just a start-of-diet thing, my body adjusting to the less > calorie intake. It may get worse rather than better. Many dieters screw up their dieting and metabolism and whatnot by eating too little. Maybe someone else here could say something on this issue... > I'll be ok. ;) I surely hope so... But I have my doubts... You know, you received great suggestions on how to distract yourself from your hunger etc, very thoughtful ones. But these suggestions were meant for those who are not too hungry and those who are not eating way too little etc. But if you eat way too little and follow those suggestions for a while, at some point things may go really haywire. i > >> Just how bad is your hunger? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > You are 180 pounds, right? And 18 years old? That's right :) > Then you most likely would be able to eat, say, 1600 calories and > still lose weight very well. Especially if you exercise a little every > day, like walking for one hour. Do you think I should up my calorie intake to around 1600? I don't mind eating less, around 1200. However if I will still lose weight at around the same level, then I see no harm? I'm new all this so :) Also I have recently purchased a "gravity walker" - it's like a machine where you sorta ski? Would an hour a day on that be a good level of exercise to take? > > I think it's just a start-of-diet thing, my body adjusting to the less > > calorie intake. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > eating too little. Maybe someone else here could say something on this > issue... Hmm, I'd better look into it a little more before I start on the wrong path. Thanks for your input, it's been very helpful by the way! > > I'll be ok. ;) > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > i >> >> Just how bad is your hunger? >> > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > eating less, around 1200. However if I will still lose weight at around the > same level, then I see no harm? I think that if you find yourself too hungry at 1200, OR start binging uncontrollably, OR lose more than 2 lbs per week (1kg), then definitely start eating more. If you were my sister, I would suggest that you eat at 1600 for a couple of weeks and exercise a little every day -- like an hour of walking or on your interesting machine -- and see how it works out. My estimate is that you probably maintain weight at about 2100 calories, so, eating at 1600 calories and spending extra 200 calories exercising, would make a nice 700 calories per day deficit, or about 1.5 lbs per week. Try to do the math here. Lots of people mess up their lives by crash dieting. > I'm new all this so :) > > Also I have recently purchased a "gravity walker" - it's like a machine > where you sorta ski? Would an hour a day on that be a good level of exercise > to take? Sounds good if you can handle an hour on that machine! >> Many dieters screw up their dieting and metabolism and whatnot by >> eating too little. Maybe someone else here could say something on this [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks for your input, it's been very helpful by the way! Yeah, try to look into it, read around a little bit, perhaps 1200 calories is a great level for you, but then, being desperate seeing KFC ads is not a good sign... Surely some hunger is to be expected, but hopefully you can find some way of losing weight and not being way too miserable. i > >> >> Just how bad is your hunger? > >> > [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] > > i Personally (and I think you subscribe to this theory as well Ig) I think it's OK to be hungry every now and then. I feel we have developed into a culture where you're never hungry and that is a primary reason for the obesity epidemic our society faces today. I'm not saying to be ravenous and then gorge and I'm not recommending that for folks with real diabetes/insulin issues. But I think of it this way. A.) Once I do eat, I will enjoy it much more. B.) If I'm hungry, my body is still moving and burning calories, hence.. the calories that happen to be stored as fat from when I wasn't on my current WOE. C.) Being hungry lets me know I'm still working at my weight loss plan. I'm not in the neo/paleolithic dieters camp. But some of the things I've read on sites pertaining to that makes sense. Cavemen hunted while they were hungry. They ate till they were full until they became hungry again.. not because it was 12:00 lunchtime, not because the food was served on a silver platter, not because it was polite to do so, not because they were bored, not because it was the 4th of July or whatever other insane reason our cultures have determined for us. JMO Susan 260/192/140 >> Yeah, try to look into it, read around a little bit, perhaps 1200 >> calories is a great level for you, but then, being desperate seeing [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > because they were bored, not because it was the 4th of July or whatever > other insane reason our cultures have determined for us. I agree, for the most part. I personally cannot eat whenever I am hungry, and stay at the same weight, but, you are right in general. What I was concerned with wrt Rachel, is that she eats way too little and instead of a little hunger she is quite possibly starving herself. i >I'm sticking to a 1200 calories a day diet. Yesterday and today so far, are >both at 1200. Sorry, I didn't read ahead to this before I asked about your diet. I am an awful lot older than you and I can lose well on 1500 a day. If you are reasonably active, at your age you should be able to eat a bit more than 1200 and still lose well. janice >>I'm sticking to a 1200 calories a day diet. Yesterday and today so far, are >>both at 1200. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >janice Rachel, I agree with those who've suggested that you aren't eating enough. I've lost weight at a healthy rate eating around 1500 calories a day on average, and I'm 56 years old. I'm pretty active, but at my age (and being in menopause) my metabolism is most likely much slower than yours. I'd definitely try 1500-1600 calories a see what that does for you. It should also help some with the cravings. Chris 262/145/ (145-150) >>>I'm sticking to a 1200 calories a day diet. Yesterday and today so far, are >>>both at 1200. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > enough. I've lost weight at a healthy rate eating around 1500 > calories a day on average, and I'm 56 years old. and you weight less than Rachel, as well. > I'm pretty active, > but at my age (and being in menopause) my metabolism is most likely > much slower than yours. I'd definitely try 1500-1600 calories a see > what that does for you. It should also help some with the cravings. For me, Rachel's description of how she watched the KFC ad was a giveaway... i Ignoramus wrote : > For me, Rachel's description of how she watched the KFC ad was a > giveaway... I've just realized what a blessing it is to tape my soap so that I can ff through the commercials. I don't have to see the food ads!!  SignatureWalking on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 Turn the tv off? Go walk, go read, go swim, go run, go sleep, go play with your kids(assuming you have them) play with someone elses kids, go shower, brush your teeth, go talk to a friend, go worship, go wash dishes/laundry, garden, paint, sing, laugh, have sex, drive, play ball, water the yard, clip coupons, research, come to ASD, journal your craving and try to understand what brought it on. DO something ELSE. :) Susan 260/192/140 > 2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV > when a KFC ad came on............... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks! :) > Rachel I'm now watching "The Fattest Men In Britain"!! LOL! That makes me feel a little better anyway :P I don't have kids. (I'm 18 :) ) and fantastic list btw! btw how do you work out the numbers at the bottom of your post? I assume they are weights! Thanks! Rachel > Turn the tv off? Go walk, go read, go swim, go run, go sleep, go play > with your kids(assuming you have them) play with someone elses kids, go [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thanks! :) > > Rachel They are my starting weight/current weight/goal weight. I started a year ago(almost to date) But I have often said I think my highest weight was around 280.. staggering pounds. Also, I wanted to note.. You will have cravings for awhile if you are limiting carbs/sugar until your body settles down and re adjusts your insulin spikes that high sugar/carb foods you were eating prior caused. This will pass with time. Keep up the fight Rachel, it's SO worth it. Please don't think of the cravings as depriving yourself of something. Think of it as giving your body a chance to heal from the damage you have caused - each cell of your body will appreciate it later. Also.. WATER. Have a craving? DRINK WATER. Susan 260/192/140 > I'm now watching "The Fattest Men In Britain"!! LOL! > That makes me feel a little better anyway :P [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > Thanks! :) > > > Rachel > They are my starting weight/current weight/goal weight. I started a year > ago(almost to date) But I have often said I think my highest weight was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > your body will appreciate it later. Also.. WATER. Have a craving? DRINK > WATER. Ah, I see! Well, I don't have much to put on my sig at the moment. I can see it being a nice thing to do - modifying the current weight (to less, hopefully!!) each week! To be honest, I'm not sure what I'm limiting, apart from calories. I'm working on a restricted calories diet (it was around 1200, but following Ignoramus' advice I may up that by a couple of hundred calories and see how it goes) - I'm subscribed to weightlossresources.co.uk which has a generic "nutrition information" pie chart, and my pie chart for the day pretty much looks like the "ideal" one. Yay. ;) I did tend to think of the cravings as deprivation. I'm only on day 2, so hopefully the cravings will balance out and lessen. and WATER! I will drink more water! in fact, I think I'll get a glass right now. ;) Thanks Susan, you've been a real help. I was worried that I'd be craving a lot over the weeks (although today it was just a couple of hours after my evening meal, however I felt guilty about eating any more as I had already ate about 1200 calories). Rachel > Susan > 260/192/140 [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > > Thanks! :) > > > > Rachel Hark! I heard "susanjoneslewis" <susanjoneslewis@sbcglobal.net> say: <snip> > Also.. WATER. Have a craving? DRINK WATER. You know, there was a time when I would have scoffed at this suggestion, but it really does help... SignatureJ.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail) Start of diet : 251 Current Weight : 232 Original Weight: 275 First Goal : 199 >2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV >when a KFC ad came on............... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks! :) >Rachel Stop staring at the TV and go for a walk? Enjoy a piece of fruit instead? Do a household chore you've been putting off for ages. Find a healthy snack recipe and fix it. Take up a hobby other than food. <G> Basically, it's easy to feel bored and wanting to eat if you are used to eating a lot. Distract yourself. If you really are hungry... then something healthy will fill the bill. If it's just "mind food want", then you need to keep your mind occupied with something else for a while, until you forget about the KFC and chocolate. Cynthia > >2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV > >when a KFC ad came on............... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Take up a hobby other than food. <G> The last part I can identify with! Food is so much more than just food to a lot of people.. it's comfort, it's boredom-alleviating... it's interesting... Hmm, a hobby. Maybe I should do more college work. ;) > Basically, it's easy to feel bored and wanting to eat if you are used > to eating a lot. Distract yourself. If you really are hungry... then > something healthy will fill the bill. If it's just "mind food want", > then you need to keep your mind occupied with something else for a > while, until you forget about the KFC and chocolate. Yep - it's mind food want! Thanks for the tips Cynthia, I will keep myself occupied. I'm only on day 2, so hopefully it will become more routine to go do something rather than eat (!) Rachel > Cynthia >The last part I can identify with! Food is so much more than just food to a >lot of people.. it's comfort, it's boredom-alleviating... it's [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >so hopefully it will become more routine to go do something rather than eat >(!) It does get better with time, but probably will never go away completely. Or you may be able to find something acceptable as a substitute. I sometimes just NEED something salty/crunchy. Popcorn works pretty well if I am gonna cave otherwise. Cynthia Rachel, can you tell us (or remind us if I missed it) what sort of WOE you're following? This might help to explain the cravings, although it's very early days so try to hold on for a bit longer and see how it goes. janice >2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV >when a KFC ad came on............... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Thanks! :) >Rachel > 2 days into my diet, I'm craving chocolate and staring longingly at the TV > when a KFC ad came on............... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Thanks! :) > Rachel My suggestion: Get out of the house. Go for a walk or something. That's what I end up doing. Turning off the TV really helps. Hang in there Rachel! Signaturejmk in NC |
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