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Chris Braun - 18 Jun 2004 02:59 GMT
I had an interesting experience today.  I was asked to be a
participant in a drug trial for a drug that is supposed to help
prevent osteoporosis and to also be beneficial for other conditions
that increase with loss of estrogen, such as heart disease and certain
cancers.  The experiment includes a large group of women with
osteoporosis, and also a control group who will be monitored for two
years to see if the drug helps reduce bone loss and frequency of the
other conditions.  The criteria for the control group are: in
menopause, under 65, non-smoking, no autoimmune diseases other than
hypothyroidism.

I agreed to go for an interview and screening, and I did this today.
Anyway, I was rejected for the trial, because my bone density is too
high :-).  I hadn't realized this was a criterion for the experiment,
but it turns out they're looking for people who've had the predictable
slow loss of bone density since onset of menopause, but who don't yet
have osteoporosis.  I'd have predicted that my bone density might be
okay, given my weightlifting and also history of being heavy (which
makes one's bones stronger, in general), but had never had it tested
so really didn't know.  As it turned out, I was pretty much off the
charts for menopausal women.  The scans are "scored" relative to the
bone density of the average 30-year-old woman, which is apparently the
peak age for strong bones.  My spinal bone density was 25% better than
that of the average 30-year-old woman, and my hip bone density was 5%
better.  They told me that of the 60+ people who'd come in so far to
interview for the trial, my scores were by far the best.  I asked the
doctor when I should have another bone scan.  She said, "Oh, you could
do it in another in 5-10 years, I guess.  But your spine will last you
'til your 150!"  

The doctor mostly credited my weight lifting, plus just good genetics.
I told her I used to weigh over 100 lbs. more, and that I assumed that
helped.  She said it did, but also said that rapid weight loss could
cause significant loss of bone.  She asked how fast I'd lost weight,
and I told her I'd averaged 5 lbs. per month.  She said that was a
good safe rate.

I was very pleased by this outcome, though I'd kind of wanted to be in
the study.  (For one thing, you get all kinds of in-depth medical
testing, free.  But this is a good way to get kicked out, at least :-)
.)

Chris
262/145/ (145-150)
Pegasus - 18 Jun 2004 04:21 GMT
>and I told her I'd averaged 5 lbs. per month.  She said that was a
>good safe rate.

All depends, I figure. Obese, and the seriously overweight like myself
can stand to lose quite a lot more. I'm eating enough to feel
satisfied, and I've already lost 8.5lbs in 3-4 days of fat and water.
I too have a whole lot of muscle and bone mass to help me carry around
all this weight. Like you said, genetics. I anticipate it will be
harder to lose weight once my body starts eating at them. I don't mind
though, even at 200lbs I'd be broad shouldered and quite muscular. I
exercised a few years ago when I weighed about 190, befoure my bout
with depressions and anxieties and overeating, and I gained roughly
40lbs of muscle in 2 months. My dad was a bodybuilder, and his dad
before him was a dockworker, so... *lol* all in the family I guess.
Ignoramus30064 - 18 Jun 2004 05:33 GMT
>>and I told her I'd averaged 5 lbs. per month.  She said that was a
>>good safe rate.
>
> All depends, I figure. Obese, and the seriously overweight like myself
> can stand to lose quite a lot more. I'm eating enough to feel
> satisfied, and I've already lost 8.5lbs in 3-4 days of fat and water.

good job.

> I too have a whole lot of muscle and bone mass to help me carry around
> all this weight. Like you said, genetics. I anticipate it will be
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> 40lbs of muscle in 2 months. My dad was a bodybuilder, and his dad
> before him was a dockworker, so... *lol* all in the family I guess.

Your writing style is a little bit too simplistic for a doctorate in
astrophysics...

Anyhow, doctorate or not, we all are here to help ourselves lose
weight and keep it off.

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janice - 18 Jun 2004 07:00 GMT
Chris that is just fantastic.  I haven't had my bone density measured,
but I do know that exercise, particularly weight-bearing exercise, is
said to improve it and help ward of osteoporosis.  It looks like you
are living proof of this.  
You're heading for a healthy old age when it comes, by the sound of
it.
janice

>I had an interesting experience today.  I was asked to be a
>participant in a drug trial for a drug that is supposed to help
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>Chris
>262/145/ (145-150)
 
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