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Hydrogenated fats in Nitro-Tech bars?
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I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein.
My only concern is how much trans-fats they may contain. I have looked for the word "hydrogenated" but don't see it. However, I do see "modified palm and palm kernel oils".
Can anyone address this question?
To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to:
http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts/ecom.dll?a1:ITEMDETAIL::USTNKNBW_A1 _17064
Any comments will be appreciated.
Thanks,
Sy
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Ignoramus19080 - 23 Jun 2004 13:25 GMT > I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and > are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts/ecom.dll?a1:ITEMDETAIL::USTNKNBW_A1 > _17064 Does not seem like "food" to me...
Ingredients: SynthePro (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially predigested (hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-, tri-, oligo-, and polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino acids), and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein Isolate, l-leucine, l-methionine, l-phenylalanine, lactoferrin (SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%, Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin <1%), milk protein, coating (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat dry milk solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt, natural flavor, and sucralose), glycerine, micronized creatine monohydrate; Insulogen (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan, taurine, pharmaceutical-grade alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol) Nitroxen (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid); polydextrose, cocoa powder, natual flavors, high fructose corn syrup, maltitol syrup, glutamine blend (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha ketoglutarate), vitamin and mineral blend (dicalcium phosphate, vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate, niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, cholecalciferol, riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid, biotin, potassium iodide, and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. <br><br>Please Note:<br
I agree that it sounds hideous but I don't think poly-syllabic ingreedients are necessarily bad for you. "Sodium cloride" sounds scary but it's actually salt.
> > I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and > > are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola > oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. <br><br>Please Note:<br>
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Ignoramus19080 - 23 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT > I agree that it sounds hideous but I don't think poly-syllabic > ingreedients are necessarily bad for you. I agree, think about those useful plastics, lubricants, batteries etc that were made possible by the inventions on chemistry.
> "Sodium cloride" sounds scary but it's actually salt. they actually list salt as salt...
I agree that some "poly-syllabic ingredients" may not be bad, sometimes, but, this nitro-tech concoction has little to do with the notion of "food" that I have in mind. My notion of food is something that was either recently planted somewhere, or was recently running somewhere. Here' we have something that spent millions of years of its life in some oil shale halfway around the world, and then was turned into "nitro-tech bars".
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>> > I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and >> > are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola >> oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. <br><br>Please Note:<br William A. Noyes - 24 Jun 2004 11:41 GMT Iggie your response is one of a technophobe. The bar is a food supplement you chew. The materials used are quite harmless and most them even beneficial. I can tell you never had a day of chemisty much less the years of chem lecture and labs I've enjoyed.
> > I agree that it sounds hideous but I don't think poly-syllabic > > ingreedients are necessarily bad for you. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >> > > >> > To see the actual ingredients for the various Nitro-Tech bars, go to: http://www.a1supplements.com/scripts/ecom.dll?a1:ITEMDETAIL::USTNKNBW_A1
> >> > _17064 > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >> and cyanocobalamin), N-acetyl cysteine, soybean lecithin oil, canola > >> oil, potassium sorbate, magnesium oxide. <br><br>Please Note:<br> How sad for you. If your brain was a computer it would be in the range between the abacus and the Commadore 64 :-(
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I was glad to read your post because if these bars are unhealthy, I will be dead soon! However, I'm still not sure about i's fat content.
Sy
> Iggie your response is one of a technophobe. The bar is > a food supplement you chew. The materials used [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > How sad for you. If your brain was a computer it would be in the range > between the abacus and the Commadore 64 :-(
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Ignoramus31038 - 24 Jun 2004 13:23 GMT > Iggie your response is one of a technophobe. The bar is I admit to being a technophobe when it comes to what I eat.
> a food supplement you chew. The materials used > are quite harmless and most them even beneficial. > I can tell you never had a day of chemisty much less the > years of chem lecture and labs I've enjoyed. I had chemistry in high school and even made my own moonshine apparatus when I was 15. Other than HS, I had no chemistry instruction.
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jmk - 25 Jun 2004 12:54 GMT >>Iggie your response is one of a technophobe. The bar is > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > i Wow! In high school?! Well then you clearly have a considerably better understanding of this than the rest of us. <rolling eyes>
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jmk - 23 Jun 2004 19:49 GMT >>I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and >>are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Does not seem like "food" to me... and yet you defend McD's...
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Ignoramus19080 - 23 Jun 2004 20:05 GMT >>>I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and >>>are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > and yet you defend McD's... McDonalds food is in no way similar to the space age ingredients of "nitrotech bars".
According to
http://www.dietriot.com/fff/mcd/mcd.html
A McDonalds hamburger is made of: 100% beef patty, bun, ketchup, mustard, pickles, onions, salt, pepper.
Cheeseburger: 100% beef patty, bun, American cheese slice, ketchup, mustard, pickles, onions, salt, pepper
etc etc.
Compare this with the freaky "nitrotech bar" ingredients.
I have no desire to do your research for you and look into stuff other than sandwiches, but the sandwiches themselves are made of very regular ingredients, much like those you could buy at your grocery store.
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JMA - 23 Jun 2004 20:14 GMT > >>>I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and > >>>are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > i With all of the chemicals and crap that beef cattle are fed these days, I wouldn't go touting ground beef as better than what you consider "space" food. The processing that their food goes through takes away quite a bit of the "regular" in their ingredients. My information comes from a McD's manager that is a good friend so it's not as scientific as your research, but it works for me.
BTW, space food beats junk food when you're in a bind.
Jenn
MattLB - 24 Jun 2004 13:24 GMT > I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and > are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Can anyone address this question? Palm oils have more saturated fat than most vegetable oils so don't usually need to be hydrogenated, so shouldn't have trans fats. On the other hand: who knows what "modified" means?
I've avoided Nitro-Tech (preferring Meso-Tech) because of the presence of sucralose in Nitro-Tech bars. Considering there's already high fructose corn syrup and malitol syrup in them adding a dodgy sweetener seems unnecessary.
MattLB
Proton Soup - 24 Jun 2004 15:34 GMT >> I eat 2 or 3 Nitro-Tech bars daily because they are VERY satisfying and >> are high (35 grams, 300 calories) in protein. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >usually need to be hydrogenated, so shouldn't have trans fats. On the >other hand: who knows what "modified" means? The list that Igno posted says "fractionated palm kernel oil", which to me means fractional distilllation, unless fractionated is some food chemistry geek speak that means something totally different than the obvious meaning. I assume that the fractionation would be to remove the components of palm oil that are liquid at room temp (or slightly above) and keep more of the solid at room temp weight oil.
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Say not the Struggle nought Availeth - 24 Jun 2004 15:57 GMT 1. SynthePro a. (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially predigested (hydrolyzed) Whey Protein Concentrate (providing di-,tri-, oligo-, and polypeptides) (shorter and longer chains of amino acids),
2. and new Ion-Exchanged specially filtered 97% Whey Protein Isolate,
3. l-leucine, 4. l-methionine, 5. l-phenylalanine, 6. lactoferrin a. (SynthePro full spectrum whey protein fractions includes- Beta Lactoglobulin ~55%, Alpha Lactalbumin ~15%, Glycomacropeptides ~21%, Immunoglobulins ~3%, Bovine Serum Albumin ~2%, Lactoferrin <1%),
7. milk protein, 8. coating a. (polydextrose, fractionated palm kernel oil, non-fat dry milk solids, cocoa powder, soya lecithin (an emulsifier), salt ,natural flavor, and sucralose),
9. glycerine, 10. micronized creatine monohydrate; 11. Insulogen a. (guar gum, d-myo-inositol, glucomannan,taurine, pharmaceutical-grade alpha lipoic acid, Inzitol (D-pinitol)[)]
12. Nitroxen a. (l-arginine, glycosidal saponins, folic acid);
13. polydextrose, 14. cocoa powder, 15. natual flavors, 16. high fructose corn syrup, 17. maltitol syrup, 18. glutamine blend a. (l-glutamine, glutamine peptides, calcium alpha ketoglutarate),
19. vitamin and mineral blend a. (dicalcium phosphate, vitamin A palmitate, ascorbic acid, d-alpha tocopheryl acetate, niacinamide, ferrous fumarate, zinc oxide, d-calcium pantothenate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, copper gluconate, cholecalciferol, riboflavin, thiamine mononitate, folic acid, biotin, potassium iodide, and cyanocobalamin),
20. N-acetyl cysteine, 21. soybean lecithin oil, 22. canola oil, 23. potassium sorbate, 24. magnesium oxide.
fractionated palm kernal oil means, imo, that the manufacturer as separated the oil, most likely according to boiling points ( unsaturated oils would have lower boiling point), but no information as to which fraction is used in the coating. But, again imo, I think it would be the saturated fraction, to give structure to the coating. After all you don't want your chocolate coating to run and stick to your hand, do you. On the other hand this is not hydrogenated, and so, the trans-fatty acid should be no higher than naturally occuring in palm oil.
to be fair to the maker of this bar, I think they purchase the chocolate coating used. Which would explain the use of sucralose.
j.
I appreciate you taking the time to post such a comprehensive response.
However, I still don't know whether or not these Nitro-Tech bars have any deleterious effects.
Can someone give me an answer please?
Thanks,
Sy
> 1. SynthePro > a. (Whey Peptides (modified weight and partially predigested [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > > j.
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Say not the Struggle nought Availeth - 24 Jun 2004 21:59 GMT If you want to eat them go ahead.
IMO, they are relatively innocuous.
I would eat them myself.
j.
Proton Soup - 25 Jun 2004 01:19 GMT >I appreciate you taking the time to post such a comprehensive response. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Sy If I were you, I wouldn't leave home without a football helmet.
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"Homo sapiens non urinat in ventum."
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