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8 Glasses of Water Daily?
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Liz - 02 Jul 2004 22:18 GMT I found this little tid bit of info while reading the Aug/04 Canadian Living magazine:
"A joint Canada/US panel of scientific experts recently concluded that there is no real rule of thumb on how many glasses of water we need to drink daily, because the tea, juice, milk, etc. we drink also hydrate us. Milk's advantage is that it's not only 88% water, it provides 15 essential nutrients, something water can't do. Quite the thirst quencher!"
Not exactly ground breaking, but it's nice to know I'm not doing anything wrong in the H20 intake department. While water DOES keep me feeling full, I'd rather be drinking other things throughout the day. I drink probably two 500mL bottles daily (4 glasses). So, I guess those who have trouble drinking those 8 glasses of water a day shouldn't really fret!
Carol Frilegh - 03 Jul 2004 02:46 GMT > I found this little tid bit of info while reading the Aug/04 Canadian Living > magazine: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > two 500mL bottles daily (4 glasses). So, I guess those who have trouble > drinking those 8 glasses of water a day shouldn't really fret! Milk is not the ideal food for adult himans as it contains a type of lactose that many are sensitive to abd a certaun protein as well. Goat's milk is better tolerated and the casein in it is a little differnt. incubating milk into hoem made yogurt eliminates the lactose. The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 oz. of water daily.
Diva
Liz - 03 Jul 2004 04:28 GMT > > I found this little tid bit of info while reading the Aug/04 Canadian Living > > magazine: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Milk is not the ideal food for adult himans as it contains a type of > lactose that many are sensitive to abd a certaun protein as well. I here that... lactose intolerant here, but get along well with lactose-free milk. How would you compare the lactose tolerance of goat milk to lactose-free milk?
> Goat's milk is better tolerated and the casein in it is a little > differnt. incubating milk into hoem made yogurt eliminates the lactose. > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 > oz. of water daily. I like that rule. Unless when exercising - I think it's a good idea to hydrate oneself throughout the entire workout and not just when feeling the thirst.
~Liz
Phil M. - 03 Jul 2004 16:34 GMT > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 > oz. of water daily. The rule I've heard is that if you wait until you're thirsty then it's already too late.
Phil M.
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Red - 08 Jul 2004 15:51 GMT > > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 > > oz. of water daily. > > The rule I've heard is that if you wait until you're thirsty then it's > already too late. Too late for what?
Cheryl
Phil M. - 13 Jul 2004 16:15 GMT One dark day on Usenet, "Red" <clafount@hotmail.com> said news:ccjmsb $181j$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu:
>> > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 >> > oz. of water daily. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Too late for what? You are already dehydrated. You should have been drinking before you got to the point of being thirsty.
Phil M.
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Mun_ Between The Stones - 13 Jul 2004 17:11 GMT >>> > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 >>> > oz. of water daily. Many need to force program H20 uptake regardless of this "new rule".
>>> The rule I've heard is that if you wait until you're thirsty then it's >>> already too late. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >You are already dehydrated. You should have been drinking before you got >to the point of being thirsty. Not always. I have been in constant 100+ sun, drank well in advance of exposure and drank like a fish while exposed. Still felt thirsty even though I also felt waterlogged. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Phil M. - 13 Jul 2004 17:20 GMT >>>> > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 >>>> > oz. of water daily. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > of exposure and drank like a fish while exposed. Still felt thirsty > even though I also felt waterlogged. Something's not right here. Constant 100+ sun? The sun never sets where you live? ;-) If you felt waterlogged, it's probably because you drink too much, too fast. Try and spread it out over a period of time.
Phil M.
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Mun_ Between The Stones - 15 Jul 2004 17:09 GMT >>>You are already dehydrated. You should have been drinking before you >got [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Something's not right here. Constant 100+ sun? The sun never sets where >you live? ;-) I don't live in Alaska.
> If you felt waterlogged, it's probably because you drink >too much, too fast. Try and spread it out over a period of time. Deny your thirst? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap960222.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Phil M. - 15 Jul 2004 21:44 GMT >>>>You are already dehydrated. You should have been drinking before you >>got [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > I don't live in Alaska. I assumed you didn't. So how do you get constant 100+ temps?
>> If you felt waterlogged, it's probably because you drink >>too much, too fast. Try and spread it out over a period of time. > > Deny your thirst? Why would this be denying your thirst? Just don't drink it all at once. Your body can only process a certain amount of fluids before it has to simply turn it into waste (urine).
Phil M.
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Heywood Mogroot - 16 Jul 2004 09:09 GMT > >>>>You are already dehydrated. You should have been drinking before you > got [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I assumed you didn't. So how do you get constant 100+ temps? try living in f.cking fresno for four years.
Phil M. - 17 Jul 2004 01:24 GMT >> >>>>You are already dehydrated. You should have been drinking before >> >>>>you [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > try living in f.cking fresno for four years. I'm looking at the forecast right now. It won't ever get over 100. At least in the next 5 days.
Still wondering where these constant 100+ temperatures exist on this planet.
Phil M.
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Heywood Mogroot - 17 Jul 2004 11:54 GMT > I'm looking at the forecast right now. It won't ever get over 100. At > least in the next 5 days. The lowest high is 96deg, and that's in the shade.
> Still wondering where these constant 100+ temperatures exist on this > planet. Like I said, Fresno. I've been thinking of getting an water distiller, seems senseless to pay good money for distilled water with all this solar energy coming down. If they were cheaper I'd get the solar roof tiles, too. What a cool invention.
Phil M. - 17 Jul 2004 13:28 GMT >> I'm looking at the forecast right now. It won't ever get over 100. At >> least in the next 5 days. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Like I said, Fresno. It is NOT constant 100+ temps. This is what the original poster said. No place on earth is it constant 100+ temps. It may get to a high of over 100+ for several days in a row, but as soon as the sun goes down it gets well below 100. Especially since Fresno is in a part of the country with lower than average humidity. The humidity holds the heat after the sun goes down, which can make for hot and muggy nights.
> I've been thinking of getting an water distiller, > seems senseless to pay good money for distilled water with all this > solar energy coming down. If they were cheaper I'd get the solar roof > tiles, too. What a cool invention. Sounds like a good plan. ;-)
Phil M.
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Heywood Mogroot - 17 Jul 2004 23:21 GMT > >> I'm looking at the forecast right now. It won't ever get over 100. At > >> least in the next 5 days. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > It is NOT constant 100+ temps. This is what the original poster said. For a stickler for detail you sure don't have an accurate recall of what the guy said:
"constant 100+ sun"
> No place on earth is it constant 100+ temps. for a natural phisopher with an anal bent you sure about that?
. It may get to a high of over
> 100+ for several days in a row, but as soon as the sun goes down it gets > well below 100. yeah but guess what he was talking about being out in the sun.
> Especially since Fresno is in a part of the country with > lower than average humidity. The humidity holds the heat after the sun > goes down, which can make for hot and muggy nights. thanks einstein. I never figured this out how the higher specific heat of water vapor held the heat in the summer night air in humid places I've lived, like Maryland and Tokyo.
Phil M. - 18 Jul 2004 01:58 GMT >> >> I'm looking at the forecast right now. It won't ever get over 100. >> >> At least in the next 5 days. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > "constant 100+ sun" You're right. Never mind.
Phil M.
Kiki McGaha - 22 Jul 2004 18:03 GMT Try Georgia, 105 heat index today.....
Phil M. - 22 Jul 2004 18:31 GMT > Try Georgia, 105 heat index today..... What part of Georgia? You must be referring to the southern part. I live in Georgia. Near Atlanata. I run every day at around 4 or 5 PM. Kind of dumb, I know. But it's convenient for me.
Phil M.
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redneckR69@demoderby.com - 16 Jul 2004 12:16 GMT >Why would this be denying your thirst? Just don't drink it all at once. >Your body can only process a certain amount of fluids before it has to >simply turn it into waste (urine). So whats wrong with urine? If you are out where there is no water, just piss in a glass and drink it. That is called recycling !
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Phil M. - 17 Jul 2004 01:26 GMT >>Why would this be denying your thirst? Just don't drink it all at once. >>Your body can only process a certain amount of fluids before it has to >>simply turn it into waste (urine). > > So whats wrong with urine? Nothing, if that's what you prefer. Most people deserve better.
Phil M.
nospam@nospam.com - 16 Jul 2004 12:08 GMT >> > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 >> > oz. of water daily. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Too late for what? You've died..........
>Cheryl I drink about 64 or more ounces of beer each day. Does that count?
Phil M. - 17 Jul 2004 01:27 GMT >>> > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 >>> > oz. of water daily. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I drink about 64 or more ounces of beer each day. Does that count? Certainly. Beer is mostly water.
Phil M.
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Crafting Mom - 17 Jul 2004 07:45 GMT >> I drink about 64 or more ounces of beer each day. Does that count? > >Certainly. Beer is mostly water. This must be deadpan, right?:) Alcoholic beverages dehydrate people. A couple of years ago, there were a couple of kids who for whatever reason got stuck in the back of a beer delivery truck. They survived for 2 days before being discovered. They drank some of the beer to stay alive, but they were very dehydrated from having done so.
Crafting Mom - 09 Jul 2004 10:58 GMT > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 > oz. of water daily. I'm not one to follow "rules" about water, but there are days when in reaction to excess heat, or whatever, that I do happen to get at least 6-8 cups per day. I do notice during those times that I feel at my personal best. There are days when I consciously make an effort to drink more water, although I regret to say not as often as I'd like, but I am getting there. Our bodies are made and designed for it. I notice (for myself) a notable decrease in headaches, and in "hunger" (thirst is oftentimes mistaken for hunger). I've very frequently drowned out headaches with water.
The first few days, drinking more water does result in extra trips to the bathroom until the body adjusts.
64 oz, when it comes down to it, is really not a whole lot. I know people who drink way more than that in diet coke and other beverages, sometimes at one sitting! In the past, I've done the same, but to me there is a vast difference between water and other beverages.
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Heywood Mogroot - 17 Jul 2004 11:50 GMT > > The new rule seems to be to drink when thirsty and not force down 64 > > oz. of water daily. > > The first few days, drinking more water does result in extra trips to the > bathroom until the body adjusts. when I first started I was making the mistake of drinking too fast; 64oz / 16hrs = 4oz/hr.
Drinking 24oz in 3 minutes just results in trips I suspect.
KellyClarksonTV - 22 Jul 2004 04:34 GMT No Way! 8 Glasses Ain't Enough! I regularly drink 3 to 4 gallons a day and I dropped from a BMI of 34 to 22 in about 18 months ... stop being too conservative.
jamie - 22 Jul 2004 21:53 GMT > No Way! 8 Glasses Ain't Enough! I regularly drink 3 to 4 gallons a day and I > dropped from a BMI of 34 to 22 in about 18 months ... stop being too > conservative. I suspect you're confusing quarts or half-gallons for gallons. 3 to 4 gallons would be 48 to 64 cups or 12 to 16 quarts/liters.
Seems like that would take much of the day to drink and pee.
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Mary M - Ohio - 05 Jul 2004 00:15 GMT My goal is to drink 3 liters of water a day -- sometimes I make it, and sometimes I fall short. Nothing makes my skin look so great as drinking lots of water!
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> I found this little tid bit of info while reading the Aug/04 Canadian Living > magazine: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > two 500mL bottles daily (4 glasses). So, I guess those who have trouble > drinking those 8 glasses of water a day shouldn't really fret!
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