I've been adjusting to my new WOE for several months now. There are alot of
things I'm still learning, and for me, it has been a slow progress. I'm sure
alot of you have gone through this already, so maybe you can enjoy my
musings. ;) (however long lol)
I picked up some stevia last night- and was looking very forward to using it
in my tea and plain, no sugar yogurt this morning. Maybe it's the brand and
type I picked up, but it left such an aftertaste. The actual taste is
delicious, but ugh... the aftertaste. Maybe I'll have to find another brand-
anyone else experience this?
I've been slowly changing some of my foods over- things like; I don't buy
the average store bought yogurt anymore, but I get the plain suger free one,
which I mix all kinds of things into! I enjoy this quite a bit, and makes
for a very satisfying breakfast. I even went ahead and bought some granola
(sugar free) to throw in- the bulk place down the street has a wonderful
selection of goodies. I bought some steel cut oatmeal and finished off the
little sugar-filled packages for good. I made a banana smoothie last night
that I think I slurped up in 5 minutes, lol! (One frozen banana, half cup of
low fat milk, some oatmeal and threw in some whole flax seed for good
measure- now blend until smoooooth.)
I cook alot better now. I've made some wonderful vegetarian soups- I make a
tomato and spinach soup that I just love. I've almost eliminated butter from
my diet, and replaced it with olive oil when I absolutely have to. I've
found that I love having just balsamic vinegar on my salads, without any
oil. Trying new recipes had been rather intimidating at first because I
didn't know where to start, but every now and then I find one that I really
like- and the BF likes too. Next on my list is to find some nice whole grain
rice, and a decent bread that I can have some nice tuna fish on.
Eating smart takes alot more time. Shopping smart takes alot more time too.
I scanned the yellow pages last night to find a health food store close to
my place, and I found a Nutrition House that advertised groceries. Very,
very much to my disappointment they had mostly pills and such, and the
groceries they did have was some soy drinks. I'm still on the lookout for a
good health food store, but I'm sure I'll find one. Funny, there was one a
bit of a ways away that I never went to and had closed down almost 2 years
ago- now I really wish it was open!
Eating healthy is alot more expensive, too. Admittedly, I'm buying things
that I'll use for a long time, like the bag of flax, but I'm still finding a
small selection of goods at a considerably higher markup. I've found I need
to keep out of the 'Organic' sections of the local supermarkets- those
prices are HIGH. But a little at a time seems to be working for me.
I've hit my first plateau. For two weeks now I've leveled off at 140, and
I've noticed no significant change in the way my clothes fit. This is very
disheartening. I need to pull out those pictures of me at nearly 160 and get
out my old jeans to remind me of how far I've come. So if there's an advice
I can offer you folks who are lurking and just starting out- take pictures!
They will come in handy for times like this!
Anyway, these are all things I've been through over the last few months.
It's more than a diet. It's more than cutting back for a few months to fit
into a size smaller. I was so tired of putting crap into my mouth and
overeating to the point of hurting. So tired of being fat. I'm so glad I
found this little place on Usenet. :)
Cooper aka Kim
(I'm 5'4" btw... ok 5'3 1/2)
jayjay - 06 Jul 2004 22:46 GMT
>I've been adjusting to my new WOE for several months now. There are alot of
>things I'm still learning, and for me, it has been a slow progress. I'm sure
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>delicious, but ugh... the aftertaste. Maybe I'll have to find another brand-
>anyone else experience this?
I have tried stevia before and found I cannot handle the after taste
at all. Also - it is horrible to cook with (as in heating, cooking,
baking, etc).
Instead, I've found that Splenda has a better, more palatable after
taste (personally I prefer it to even nutrasweet). Also, Splenda
does not appear to break down when heated, so you can use it for
cooking, baking and hot drinks like coffee and tea.
BTW - I'm still trying to place you from being here before. Any
*hints* you can drop that might jog my memory, after all, I've been
around this group for 5 yrs now.
cooper - 07 Jul 2004 12:39 GMT
> BTW - I'm still trying to place you from being here before. Any
> *hints* you can drop that might jog my memory, after all, I've been
> around this group for 5 yrs now.
Place me? I've only posted a few times here and there, and have only been
coming here daily for around 4 or 5 months. Not sure what to tell you other
than that. I tend to keep to myself, but learn alot through lurking.
Coop
jayjay - 07 Jul 2004 15:15 GMT
>> BTW - I'm still trying to place you from being here before. Any
>> *hints* you can drop that might jog my memory, after all, I've been
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>
>Coop
whoops...
See - there was the post previous from Kim in cville - stating she had
been here in the past. Then the post from you w/ the sig of "cooper
aka kim" ... and me, thinking... better yet, ASSuming... that maybe
kim in cville had changed her screen name to cooper between posts.
That does happen quite often.
Sorry for the confusion,
So, now - I'll just remember there is Kim and there is Cooper - who is
also a Kim.
Hey - there's lots of us in here with the same names - thats why I
have gone to using "jayjay" (jj for short) instead of my full name -
not only for the annonimitity, but also for the distinction from the
others who post with my same name. :)
Teri - 06 Jul 2004 23:54 GMT
> I cook alot better now. I've made some wonderful vegetarian soups- I make a
> tomato and spinach soup that I just love.
Would you share the recipe? It sounds like you're doing so well, Kim!
Teri
> Cooper aka Kim
> (I'm 5'4" btw... ok 5'3 1/2)
Patricia Heil - 07 Jul 2004 00:17 GMT
> I've been adjusting to my new WOE for several months now. There are alot of
> things I'm still learning, and for me, it has been a slow progress. I'm sure
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> Cooper aka Kim
> (I'm 5'4" btw... ok 5'3 1/2)
I would be surprised if you didn't have at least one grocery chain nearby
that had brown rice. That's about as whole grain as rice gets.
SnugBear - 08 Jul 2004 03:56 GMT
> (One frozen banana, half cup of
> low fat milk, some oatmeal and threw in some whole flax seed for good
> measure- now blend until smoooooth.)
You may want to grind the flaxseeds first - your body can't digest them
whole. A little coffee grinder is perfect for this. I got one for a
buck at a yardsale.
You're doing great Kim! Keep it up. (and post more!)

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cooper - 08 Jul 2004 20:43 GMT
> You may want to grind the flaxseeds first - your body can't digest them
> whole. A little coffee grinder is perfect for this. I got one for a
> buck at a yardsale.
>
> You're doing great Kim! Keep it up. (and post more!)
Hmm, yeah, I'll have to grind them, never knew that.
Thanks!
Doug Freyburger - 08 Jul 2004 18:09 GMT
> I picked up some stevia last night- and was looking very forward to using it
> in my tea and plain, no sugar yogurt this morning. Maybe it's the brand and
> type I picked up, but it left such an aftertaste. The actual taste is
> delicious, but ugh... the aftertaste. Maybe I'll have to find another brand-
> anyone else experience this?
Stevia - Some folks love it, some folks hate it. Looks like your
reaction is less than the some-folks-hate-it end. Fairly common.
> I don't buy
> the average store bought yogurt anymore, but I get the plain suger free one,
> which I mix all kinds of things into! I enjoy this quite a bit, and makes
> for a very satisfying breakfast.
Absolutely. Especially fresh berries, yum.
> Eating healthy is alot more expensive, too.
This is more a skills issue than a permanent reality. You're still
used to buying the way you used to so you haven't had time to learn
the pricing structure of your new staples. Give it time and learn
to pay more attention to the new stuff and less attention to the
old stuff. Your shopping habits will settle in and in the process
the price you pay will settle down as well. Slow but sure wins the
race.
> I've hit my first plateau. For two weeks now I've leveled off at 140, and
> I've noticed no significant change in the way my clothes fit. This is very
> disheartening.
Do not do this to yourself. You *must* view the time scale for loss
to be month to month not week to week. Not even people dying of
cancer see a new low each and every week, so never expect that you
in your good health will. You have done great and you continue to
do great. Further, consider that amount to lose determines loss
rate. More to lose, faster to lose. Less to lose, slower to lose.
It's like excess fat has some sort of presusre to go away. Actually
the body in general has a drive to stay where it is and the closer
you get to your ideal weight the more that drive works.
> I need to pull out those pictures of me at nearly 160 and get
> out my old jeans to remind me of how far I've come. (I'm 5'4" btw...
> ok 5'3 1/2)
Exactly how did you select your goal weight? Insurace tables tend
to run 10 too low for example. If you select a goal below your
objective ideal, you set yourself up for an eternal struggle to
keep your calories low, while if you pick a goal at your objective
ideal your body becomes your ally not your enemy in keeping that
weight.
> I can offer you folks who are lurking and just starting out- take pictures!
Tape measure and pictures beat the scale for everyone who is not
medically driven to their diet. Because of water retention swing
the scale reading can have many pounds of uncertainty. As much
as 5+ pounds on the scale can mean no change at all (my swing is
6 pounds). But a pant size or an inch, that is real.
cooper - 08 Jul 2004 20:42 GMT
> snip <
I chose my goal weight by what I was comfortable with before- I had been as
low as 120, but that was in high school, so that 's pretty unrealistic. At
130- 135 I was pretty comfy; I'm fairly athletic and yes, I am big boned. My
hands and writs are huge, lol! So I didn't go by any chart or anything, just
picked a range where I'm happy at, and where I didn't have to struggle to
much to stay there. Only the last few years really (ok, more than a few)
have I really let my eating habits go and let the weight slip on.
I'm finding I like stevia alot in my yogurt, but definitely not in my tea,
so I'll have to see what else I can use it in.
Thanks for a great post. :)
SnugBear - 09 Jul 2004 02:28 GMT
"cooper" wrote:
> Eating healthy is alot more expensive, too. Admittedly, I'm buying
> things that I'll use for a long time, like the bag of flax, but I'm
> still finding a small selection of goods at a considerably higher
> markup. I've found I need to keep out of the 'Organic' sections of the
> local supermarkets- those prices are HIGH. But a little at a time
> seems to be working for me.
I've never been impressed by the word *organic*.
Let's see, my fresh fruit and veggie expense is higher; oatmeal is almost
the cheapest food you can buy; whole flaxseed is $1.49/lb and I eat one
tablespoon ground per day. otoh my Oreo, butter, chips, crackers, popcorn
and mayo expense is about zero; pasta, rice & potatoes is drastically
reduced. We buy whole grains in bulk to put in the bread we always baked
ourselves.
Oh! I buy nuts now and never did before. Also lots of lower calorie
condiments to be used sparingly for flavor. Probably my one luxury is sun
dried tomatoes to dice up on my salad every evening. I get them at the
HFS and use 3 pieces per day.
And I always have premium dark chocolate <s>

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JMA - 09 Jul 2004 02:32 GMT
> And I always have premium dark chocolate <s>
Life is too short to waste on bad chocolate :)
Jenn
D0RAJARR - 09 Jul 2004 03:06 GMT
>Subject: Re: some new observaions... deja vu for some
>From: "JMA" bjenniferb@yahoo.com
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>
>Life is too short to waste on bad chocolate :)
LOL.....maybe its me but I've never met a chocolate that I didn't like. :)
I havent had 'real' chocolate in more than six months and I dont really plan on
having any pretty much ever again. While I am still D&E, even so much as a
sandwich (something plain, like just cheese or ham on white bread...no mayo or
anything gross like that) can send my bg soaring (I'm diabetic). I'm kind of
stuck in an eat-like-a-saint predicament. Salad and lean meats for me, with
the occasional indulgence of a really well-aged piece of cheddar or a visit
from my friend, Mr Peanuts :)
--
DJ
on a quest to find a doc who takes diabetes as seriously as she does
last a1c on strictly LOW (under 15 grams a day - usually at lunch) to NO-carb:
6.0 (a1c three months prior: 6.5, six months(with carbs): 9.0)
JMA - 09 Jul 2004 03:24 GMT
> >Subject: Re: some new observaions... deja vu for some
> >From: "JMA" bjenniferb@yahoo.com
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> last a1c on strictly LOW (under 15 grams a day - usually at lunch) to NO-carb:
> 6.0 (a1c three months prior: 6.5, six months(with carbs): 9.0)
It's completely understandable given your health situation. There are some
low carb chocolate recipes out there, but they're very high in fat -
definitely not saintly 0:-)
Jenn
lucky enough to survive a small morsel of chocolate each week
SnugBear - 11 Jul 2004 03:30 GMT
> Life is too short to waste on bad chocolate :)
Amen sistah!
I never laughed so hard as when I posted "Good chocolate is almost as
good as sex" to the eBay ng and got this response:
"Good sex is better than good chocolate, bad chocolate is better than bad
sex"

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