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I just can't get my waist down!!! I AM FRUSTRATED!

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Healthy Stealthy ; - 08 Jul 2004 14:58 GMT
For years I have been trying to lose inches off of my waist! BUT IT
JUST IS NOT HAPPENNING!!  I am so disgusted and frustrated!!!

I also want to stop smoking! How the heck am I supposed to get all
this done!
WHY DON'T THE FREAKING  INCHES COME OFF MY WAIST?
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
Patricia Heil - 08 Jul 2004 16:14 GMT
> For years I have been trying to lose inches off of my waist! BUT IT
> JUST IS NOT HAPPENNING!!  I am so disgusted and frustrated!!!
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> WHY DON'T THE FREAKING  INCHES COME OFF MY WAIST?
> FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!

Are you exercising?  Have you tried a nicotine patch with a step-down
program combined with group therapy?
Healthy Stealthy ; - 09 Jul 2004 05:17 GMT
"Patricia Heil" <pjayheil@erols.com> wrote in message news:<
> Are you exercising?  Have you tried a nicotine patch with a step-down
> program combined with group therapy?

Patricia I have been excercising... it doesn't seem to work. However I
don't keep up with it like I should. But it still should take
something off. Years ago it did.
GaryG - 08 Jul 2004 16:51 GMT
> For years I have been trying to lose inches off of my waist! BUT IT
> JUST IS NOT HAPPENNING!!  I am so disgusted and frustrated!!!
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> WHY DON'T THE FREAKING  INCHES COME OFF MY WAIST?
> FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!

Sadly enough, the rule of thumb is, "the first fat on when gaining weight,
is the last fat off when losing it".  Many people find it difficult to lose
fat around the waist, but for others it's the hips and butt (it just depends
on where your body likes to store it).

BTW - buying one of those "ab machines" you see advertised on TV will do
virtually nothing to reduce the fat around your waist.  Even if they do
exercise your ab muscles, you can't "spot reduce" via exercise...only by
reducing your overall level of body fat will you begin to see a change in
your waist.

For health reasons, you might want to focus on quitting smoking first and
not worry about weight loss until you've succeeded.  To help beat the
smoking, find some type of aerobic exercise that you enjoy (e.g., walking,
running, cycling, rowing), and pursue it.  The good news is that when you
quit smoking and start exercising, you'll find yourself making dramatic
gains in fitness within just a few months.  Those gains if fitness and
feelings of strength really helped me to (finally) quit smoking for good.
When I first quit smoking, I would get tired after riding my bike for 4
miles.  Within a couple of months I was riding 20+ miles of hills without
getting too tired.  That was 10 years ago, and now I ride 3,000+ miles per
year, and weigh about what I did back in college (in the late '70s).

GG
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Ignoramus27096 - 08 Jul 2004 16:55 GMT
Gary, this Healtht Stealthy has a long history of posting whining,
nonsensical messages to a number of newsgroups... I don't think that
we are dealing with a serious person.

i

>> For years I have been trying to lose inches off of my waist! BUT IT
>> JUST IS NOT HAPPENNING!!  I am so disgusted and frustrated!!!
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> http://www.WeightWare.com
> Your Weight and Health Diary
Healthy Stealthy ; - 09 Jul 2004 05:18 GMT
"GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote in message news:<
> Sadly enough, the rule of thumb is, "the first fat on when gaining weight,
> is the last fat off when losing it".  Many people find it difficult to lose
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> http://www.WeightWare.com
> Your Weight and Health Diary

Thanks Gary.
Brad Sheppard - 09 Jul 2004 15:35 GMT
Hi Healthy,

I'm in the same boat as you - i've lost 18 lbs but no inches off my
waist.  All I can say is try more exercise, fewer calories - hang in
there.  You can look better by maintaining good posture - situps may
help with that.  What is your waist size Healthy?  40 inches is obese
for men (mine's 38 inches, I'm 5' 8" 158 lbs).
> "GaryG" <garyg@shasta_SPAMBEGONE_software.com> wrote in message news:<
> > Sadly enough, the rule of thumb is, "the first fat on when gaining weight,
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>
> Thanks Gary.
Dally - 10 Jul 2004 20:33 GMT
> Hi Healthy,
>
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> help with that.  What is your waist size Healthy?  40 inches is obese
> for men (mine's 38 inches, I'm 5' 8" 158 lbs).

Brad, I haven't mentioned this in a long time because you're a grown-up
and you're the one most capable of making decisions for yourself...

But I've long thought that you were exercising wrong.

Or your long-slow cardio might be good for your heart, but it does
diddly-squat for fat storage.

If you want to really get at the fat storage you need to ditch the 60
minute treadmill workouts or million-lap swims and go for high intensity
interval training, weight-lifting and lots of cross-training.

Your goal shouldn't be to rack up calories burned with exercise, your
goal should be to change the way your body calls for energy out of
storage.  You want to turn into what Covert Bailey calls a "better
butter burner".

HTH

Dally
David - 10 Jul 2004 21:32 GMT
> > Hi Healthy,
> >
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>
> Dally
you're a smart lady, Dally!
Heywood Mogroot - 11 Jul 2004 08:59 GMT
> Your goal shouldn't be to rack up calories burned with exercise, your
> goal should be to change the way your body calls for energy out of
> storage.  You want to turn into what Covert Bailey calls a "better
> butter burner".

yes your interval-training suggestion is well-supported by practice.

Only by pushing the body will it respond, and just doing the same
thing every day (like what I'm doing) isn't really pushing it.

I made the mistake of putting on some nifty new touring tires onto my
bike, and now my rolling resistance is so low I've got to start
looking for some hills to climb...

Heywood

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Ignoramus25780 - 11 Jul 2004 14:34 GMT
>> Your goal shouldn't be to rack up calories burned with exercise, your
>> goal should be to change the way your body calls for energy out of
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> bike, and now my rolling resistance is so low I've got to start
> looking for some hills to climb...

While I agree with you guys regarding doing various exercises,
supposedly, diabetics have a very difficult time losing on high carb
diets. Brad eats a lot of carbs, as a proportion of his food
intake. And his diet is not accomplishing what Brad set out to
accomplish.

i
Brad Sheppard - 11 Jul 2004 19:17 GMT
I agree with you all - but there's one problem:  I already do
high-intensity training.  I use the Hard-Easy routine of Dr. Mirkin -
Hard one day, easy the next.  On my hard days I get my pulse up to 90%
of its max.

>  
> > Your goal shouldn't be to rack up calories burned with exercise, your
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>
> 232/192/182
Heywood Mogroot - 12 Jul 2004 03:02 GMT
> I agree with you all - but there's one problem:  I already do
> high-intensity training.  I use the Hard-Easy routine of Dr. Mirkin -
> Hard one day, easy the next.  On my hard days I get my pulse up to 90%
> of its max.

I suppose any fat you've got then is going to be where it is now,
until it is burned off.

Makes sense. The core belly fat is a bit different from other fats,
more wired in or something.
Dally - 12 Jul 2004 14:36 GMT
> I agree with you all - but there's one problem:  I already do
> high-intensity training.  I use the Hard-Easy routine of Dr. Mirkin -
> Hard one day, easy the next.  On my hard days I get my pulse up to 90%
> of its max.

A couple of comments on this.  (Please don't take this as flaming or
criticism, just a bit of brain-storming because you mentioned you
weren't getting the results you wanted.)

First, the max heart-rate thing is usually bullshit.  It's probably a
better idea to use the Borg Perceived Exertion scale.  Frankly, I use
the "I'm not dead yet so I have a bit more in me" version of the final
sprint.  In fairness, my early training was as a long distance runner
and I grew up thinking that you were SUPPOSED to feel like throwing up
when you finished.

Second, if you've been doing the same thing for two years (and my memory
says you have been) then you're due for a big change.  Our bodies get
used to any routine.

How about you post what you already do and we suggest what we'd tweak?
Post your stats again, too, if you would.

There's a guy who's frequently at the gym when I am, always walking for
an hour on a treadmill.  I've watched him for years - he never gets any
less tubby.  I'm sure he's one of those "fit fat" people, i.e., has a
healthy heart, but I've always wondered why he didn't change something.
 If you're going to spend an hour a day in the gym you may as well get
a good body out of it, IMO.

Dally
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Mary M - Ohio - 09 Jul 2004 15:29 GMT
How old are you? Male or female? Hormone changes tend to move fat collection to the
waist as we near or pass 40, and the old methods we used for speedy loss aren't as
effective anymore. Also, stop freaking out about it -- cortisol (stress hormone) also
contributes to holding on waist and stomach weight. You say you don't keep up with
exercise like you should -- well there's a good start right there. My personal mantra
(I made up) is Committed, Consistent, Patient, and Persistent. How many of these
adjectives fit you?

Mary M
325-160-148

> For years I have been trying to lose inches off of my waist! BUT IT
> JUST IS NOT HAPPENNING!!  I am so disgusted and frustrated!!!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> WHY DON'T THE FREAKING  INCHES COME OFF MY WAIST?
> FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
Dally - 10 Jul 2004 20:37 GMT
> My personal mantra
> (I made up) is Committed, Consistent, Patient, and Persistent. How many of these
> adjectives fit you?
>
> Mary M
> 325-160-148

That's lovely, Mary!

I just got back from a party.  Well, more specifically, I just got back
from picking up Sammy at a party.  I dropped him off, ran to get in a
workout, then returned to see all the parents milling about bored
looking at me enviously.  :-)

In the chit-chat afterwards I was telling a woman that I had to decide
six days a week to exercise, but I chose to do it because I decided to
do whatever it takes to lose the fat.

She then went on to tell me her medical tale of woe why she has to be
275 pounds... I let her off the hook by assuring her that not everyone
needs to make the same choice I did, but my personal discovery was that
once I decided to lose the weight I was able to figure out how to make
it work.

You should be proud of me.  I didn't use the term FFID even once.  :-)

Dally
determined - 10 Jul 2004 00:55 GMT
Some people just carry their weight around their middles...I do.  When I was
at my heaviest, I wasn't at all happy with my waist to hip ratio - my waist
was only minimally smaller than my hips.  Well, guess what?  I am down to
goal weight, and I have lost inches in both places, but have the exact same
ratio.  That's just the way it is for me.

det

> For years I have been trying to lose inches off of my waist! BUT IT
> JUST IS NOT HAPPENNING!!  I am so disgusted and frustrated!!!
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> WHY DON'T THE FREAKING  INCHES COME OFF MY WAIST?
> FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!
 
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