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Rainbow-Seeker - 06 Jul 2004 22:50 GMT
Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?
Thanks!

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byakee - 06 Jul 2004 23:07 GMT
One dark day on Usenet, "Rainbow-Seeker" <nospam@nospam.net> said:

> Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?

3500...

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Rainbow-Seeker - 06 Jul 2004 23:49 GMT
Thanks!

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> One dark day on Usenet, "Rainbow-Seeker" <nospam@nospam.net> said:
>
> > Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?
>
> 3500...
Jarkat2002 - 08 Jul 2004 15:57 GMT
>> Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?
>
>3500...

So I have to burn 3500 cals to drop one pound of fat?  
To be honest, I'm not exactly sure how this works.

~Kat

"The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
Ignoramus27096 - 08 Jul 2004 16:01 GMT
>>> Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?
>>
>>3500...
>
> So I have to burn 3500 cals to drop one pound of fat?  
> To be honest, I'm not exactly sure how this works.

You have to eat less than you burned, by 3500 calories, to lose 1
pound of fat.

i
Jarkat2002 - 08 Jul 2004 16:05 GMT
>You have to eat less than you burned, by 3500 calories, to lose 1
>pound of fat.
>
>i

I think I need to buy the book. :)

~Kat

"The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese."
Ignoramus27096 - 08 Jul 2004 16:21 GMT
>>You have to eat less than you burned, by 3500 calories, to lose 1
>>pound of fat.
>>
>>i
>
> I think I need to buy the book. :)

you know, you are doing pretty well so far!

i
Heywood Mogroot - 08 Jul 2004 20:33 GMT
> >> Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?
> >
> >3500...
>
> So I have to burn 3500 cals to drop one pound of fat?  
> To be honest, I'm not exactly sure how this works.

neither is anyone else, really, but 3500 is a good enough number for gov't work.
Doug Freyburger - 09 Jul 2004 20:35 GMT
> So I have to burn 3500 cals to drop one pound of fat?

It's worse than that, actually.  Few folks see loss that is
100% reduced fat.  If you lost 1800 calories of lean muscle,
that would be a pound.  No loss plan ever acheived zero
lean loss.  Folks could potentially lose plenty of lean if
they go too low in protein or do some metabolic trick that
sacrafices lean rather than fat.

And carbs are even worse.  A pound of carb is also 1800
calories worth, but the body stores carbs dissolved in
water.  Water is 0 calories per pound.  To lose a pound of
carb+water might only take a few hundreds calories of
deficit.  There is one good part on the carb end of the
equation - The body can only store just so much carb+water
and then it's all gone.  Folks who've lost 30+ pounds
can't possibly have lost that much water.

> To be honest, I'm not exactly sure how this works.

No one is.  Human bodies are extremely complex feedback
systems.

Anyways, one way or the other you have to take in at least
3500 fewer calories than you burn to lose a pound of fat
and maybe more.  You can do that by reducing calories but
the body has this way of reducing its metabolism in
response.  You can do that by increasing metabolism
without reducing calories (exercise and ketosis).  With
money Ben Franklin said "To become wealthy increase means
or reduce expenses.  Doing both works faster."  This is
equally true with loss.
Ray Audette - 10 Jul 2004 06:46 GMT
" Not only in research, but also in the everyday world of politics and
economics, we would all be better off if more people realized that simple
nonlinear systems do not nececessarily posses simple dynamical properties."
   Biologist Robert Mays from his "messianic" paper in Nature         (
1976)    "The Mathmatical Intuition"

Thus greenhouse warming may produce another ice age rather than a warmer
climate ( according to many scientists the more likely senario) and women
who consume more calories weigh less than women who practice calorie
reduction (according to the 125,000 women studied by Harvard).  Likewise,
calorie burning exercise has been shown to have no effect on weight.  Long
term studies of low calorie diet plans show a success rate of 2% ( the same
2% that become anorexix or bulemic on such programs).  The average person on
such a program actually gained 15% after two years in these studies.

That so many "weight loss experts" show such innumeracy ( and refuse to
accept my chalange to a swim suit competition) means a great opportunity for
a class action lawsuit similar to the one won by the FTC against the false
claims made by leading calorie reductions plans.  Although this legal action
only resulted in these companies adding small print disclaimers to their ads
( results not typical, etc ), I feel feel billions of dollars are still on
the table.

In a resent study adolesent offered an unlimmited buffet ate 30% fewer
calories when offered a high fat selection than a low fat one.  Nothing
produces saity faster than fat.

Ray Audette
Author "NeanderThin"
www.NeanderThin.com
Ray Audette - 10 Jul 2004 06:46 GMT
" Not only in research, but also in the everyday world of politics and
economics, we would all be better off if more people realized that simple
nonlinear systems do not nececessarily posses simple dynamical properties."
   Biologist Robert Mays from his "messianic" paper in Nature         (
1976)    "The Mathmatical Intuition"

Thus greenhouse warming may produce another ice age rather than a warmer
climate ( according to many scientists the more likely senario) and women
who consume more calories weigh less than women who practice calorie
reduction (according to the 125,000 women studied by Harvard).  Likewise,
calorie burning exercise has been shown to have no effect on weight.  Long
term studies of low calorie diet plans show a success rate of 2% ( the same
2% that become anorexix or bulemic on such programs).  The average person on
such a program actually gained 15% after two years in these studies.

That so many "weight loss experts" show such innumeracy ( and refuse to
accept my chalange to a swim suit competition) means a great opportunity for
a class action lawsuit similar to the one won by the FTC against the false
claims made by leading calorie reductions plans.  Although this legal action
only resulted in these companies adding small print disclaimers to their ads
( results not typical, etc ), I feel feel billions of dollars are still on
the table.

In a resent study adolesent offered an unlimmited buffet ate 30% fewer
calories when offered a high fat selection than a low fat one.  Nothing
produces saity faster than fat.

Ray Audette
Author "NeanderThin"
www.NeanderThin.com
Doug Freyburger - 07 Jul 2004 21:14 GMT
> Can someone please remind me of how many calories equal a pound of fat?

9 cal/gram
454 gram/pound
4086 cal/pound

There's bound to be plenty of round-off in that 4086 number.  Different
types of fat and different purities of fat will run it anywhere from
3000 to 4500 calories.
 
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