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Article: Older Women, Too, Struggle With a Dangerous Secret

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JMA - 08 Jul 2004 19:49 GMT
An interesting article about women in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and eating
disorders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/06/health/06anor.html?ex=1090312009&ei=1&en=6da96
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mikarma - 08 Jul 2004 20:33 GMT
so how old would karen carpenter be now?  so eds didn't exist when women now
in their 30s, 40s or 50s were younger?

eds in 'older women' are the same eds these women had when they were
younger.  only more time has passed and these women have had the chance to
grow older with their ed (often hidden), not to mention suffer more over the
years.  no great news (sorry, those who try and sell newspapers).  the only
news is that it's too damn hard to find help.

yes, some people develop eds post-teens/twenties, but more often it's just a
continuance of difficulties which were already there and not treated, for
whatever reason.

F

> An interesting article about women in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and eating
> disorders.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/06/health/06anor.html?ex=1090312009&ei=1&en=6
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JMA - 08 Jul 2004 23:16 GMT
> so how old would karen carpenter be now?  so eds didn't exist when women now
> in their 30s, 40s or 50s were younger?

That's not what was said.

> eds in 'older women' are the same eds these women had when they were
> younger.  only more time has passed and these women have had the chance to
> grow older with their ed (often hidden), not to mention suffer more over the
> years.  no great news (sorry, those who try and sell newspapers).  the only
> news is that it's too damn hard to find help.

That's pretty much the gist of the article.  It's difficult for older women
to get help for an eating disorder because it is generally seen as a younger
women's disease.

> yes, some people develop eds post-teens/twenties, but more often it's just a
> continuance of difficulties which were already there and not treated, for
> whatever reason.
>
> F

It is also the result of a relapse of problems that existed and may have
even been treated, not just those who never sought treatment.  I found it
interesting that the medical community is finally catching up with the real
world in this area.  If it becomes more recognized, then women may actually
seek help.  I can tell you that pushing 40 it doesn't help when stupid
people refer to my problems as those of an attention seeking teenager or
other remarks about the condition that are just as stupid and thoughtless.

Jenn
mikarma - 09 Jul 2004 22:57 GMT
> It is also the result of a relapse of problems that existed and may have
> even been treated, not just those who never sought treatment.  I found it
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>
> Jenn

Sorry Jenn, if i came across as angry in my previous post (well, i was
angry, but at people's ignorance about eds in general, and the fact that eds
still sell papers but still far too few people seem to truly recognise the
pain behind it all, just the superficial 'oooh, hasn't she gained/lost
weight' comments etc).  I agree with all you say in your para above,
couldn't agree more.  So many people think this is all a vanity thing, when
in reality it's so much the opposite, and the pain felt at _any_ age hurts,
not just in teenage years.

F
JMA - 10 Jul 2004 00:58 GMT
> > It is also the result of a relapse of problems that existed and may have
> > even been treated, not just those who never sought treatment.  I found it
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>
> F

I'm glad you had a reaction to it!  I really do hope that articles like this
help educate some people, though some are well beyond help in that area
(terminally stupid).  I think that time will show that ed's are more
widespread than currently estimated, but I'm afraid that since they are
predominantly female and are mental, they won't get the serious attention
they deserve.  It's way too easy for the ignorant to write it off.

Jenn
Jenn
janice - 08 Jul 2004 21:13 GMT
>An interesting article about women in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and eating
>disorders.
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/06/health/06anor.html?ex=1090312009&ei=1&en=6da96
90a53bcb92f

I must say I hadn't thought of people developing eating disorders for
the first time in, say, their 40s or 50s, but the article is also
referring to women who have had the disorder since they were younger
and still have it in later life.

It deals with bulimia and anorexia, but not with what I think of as
the "forgotten" eating disorder of binge eating.  FWIW my binge eating
disorder started in 1962 and I've been fighting it ever since.  For
many years I didn't even know I wasn't the only person in the world
doing this, and for several more years it didn't have a name.  I
expect many women in mid life now have disorders that date back to
those dark days and it is only now coming out into the open.

janice
JMA - 08 Jul 2004 23:36 GMT
> >An interesting article about women in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and eating
> >disorders.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> janice

That was the first thought I had when reading the article - that it hasn't
been all that long that awareness of eating disorders has become so
widespread.  Younger women have been easier to diagnose and study because
they're forced into treatment by their parents, while older women are better
able to hide the situation and avoid treatment.

It also doesn't help when like you pointed out some disorders still go
ignored or you get really stupid people who think that the disorder entails
something as simple as an unpleasant comment leading to crying and eating
cookies.

One thing I've read about lately is that these disorders are on the increase
among MEN so maybe it will get more attention when it's not incorrectly seen
as a "hysterical" women's problem.  There have always been men with the
problem - I've met them in treatment in the past and they have an even
bigger problem getting treatment than older women have.

Jenn
jmk - 09 Jul 2004 13:23 GMT
> One thing I've read about lately is that these disorders are on the increase
> among MEN so maybe it will get more attention when it's not incorrectly seen
> as a "hysterical" women's problem.  

Sad but probably true.

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Chris Braun - 09 Jul 2004 21:22 GMT
>An interesting article about women in their 30's, 40's, and 50's and eating
>disorders.
>
>http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/06/health/06anor.html?ex=1090312009&ei=1&en=6da96
90a53bcb92f

Interesting article -- thanks for posting it!

Chris
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