Hello, I'm new to this whole forum thing, but I have some concerns and
questions regarding weight gain and lean body mass.
Scenario: A 5'11" male, 23 years of age, dropped 40lbs to a weight of
120lbs and is trying to gain weight back through healthy eating and
weight training. (Okay, it's me). The weight gain regimen has been
followed for five months now and seems to be going quite well; work
out intensity is being increased every day, and body is looking more
defined weekly. I'd say results are really showing, especially since I
essentially started from scratch, i.e. having extremely meager muscle
mass.
A lot of lean mass was lost during the weight loss period, obviously,
in addition to a lot of fat; I'm at about 8% body fat now, maybe
slightly higher. I'm eating a lot more, but I have a problem with
cravings. I'm thinking that my body is still in starvation mode and
that my cravings are simply a sign that my body needs whatever it
craves. I don't know if I should submit to the cravings or to ignore
them and eat something else. Usually I crave ice cream, and I'm not
satisfied until I eat it. If I eat something else, my mind still tells
me that it wants ice cream. Now, since I still need to gain much more
lean body mass to raise my metabolism back to its original state, I
don't want to submit to cravings and swell up in the stomach. I'm on a
low fat, high protein diet, and I'm doing rather well, but lately,
I've been eating a lot of fattening things like cake and pie, in
addition to the laid out meal plans I've given myself. Basically, I'm
eating the way I used to (I didn't care what I ate, chips, cake, ice
cream, etc. were all normal every-day foods). I eliminated these foods
two years ago in an attempt to lose a little weight and eat healthier,
but I guess I got a little obsessive and ended up doing more harm than
good. Now that all these foods are being re-intorduced into my body,
I've been craving them like crazy and end up eating a lot of them when
I finally submit to the craving. I would literally like to have my
cake and eat it too, but I don't want to bloat up because I know my
metabolism can't handle these foods the way it used to. I've tried
eating a little of these "binge foods" every now and then, a little at
a time, but what ends up happening is that the fork or spoon keeps
finding my mouth, and I end up eating too much of the foods I want to
avoid. I guess this is a common problem, but I always factor in my
current body weight (along with lean and fat mass ratios) and realize
that my body is not what it used to be. As a result, I really feel bad
about binging, but my mind doesn't think about what kind of food it
wants to eat later on.
Ignoramus15501 - 21 Jul 2004 16:38 GMT
> Hello, I'm new to this whole forum thing, but I have some concerns and
> questions regarding weight gain and lean body mass.
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> essentially started from scratch, i.e. having extremely meager muscle
> mass.
I am impressed! I weight 172 lbs at the same height, 52 lbs more (!).
> A lot of lean mass was lost during the weight loss period,
> obviously, in addition to a lot of fat; I'm at about 8% body fat
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> fattening things like cake and pie, in addition to the laid out meal
> plans I've given myself.
Can you eat fat? You know, animal fats, fat fish, vegetable oils, that
sort of thing. If you have a fat craving, why not satisfy it, so some
reasonable extent. We need fats for more than just energy.
I personally would not eat fat mixed with sugar, that's pretty deadly
stuff, but just having a piece of pork fat or a tablespoon of some oil
is not at all unhealthy.
> craving. I would literally like to have my cake and eat it too, but
> I don't want to bloat up because I know my metabolism can't handle
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> binging, but my mind doesn't think about what kind of food it wants
> to eat later on.
Then try eating more fat without sugar added. Could calories if you
wish.
You seem to have a reasonable attitude in general.
i
Chris Braun - 22 Jul 2004 01:49 GMT
>> Hello, I'm new to this whole forum thing, but I have some concerns and
>> questions regarding weight gain and lean body mass.
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>
>I am impressed! I weight 172 lbs at the same height, 52 lbs more (!).
Um, no offense to the OP, but I think 172 is a heck of a lot healthier
weight for a man of 5'11" than 120!
Chris
Doug Freyburger - 23 Jul 2004 17:50 GMT
> Scenario: A 5'11" male, 23 years of age, dropped 40lbs to a weight of
> 120lbs and is trying to gain weight back through healthy eating and
> weight training.
If you allowed yourself to get that low, you have a history of
anorexia. I am glad that you have decided to treat it rather
than to starve yourself to death.
> I'm eating a lot more, but I have a problem with cravings ...
> I'm on a low fat, high protein diet, and I'm doing rather well ...
If you have cravings you still have room for improvement. Low
fat implies low calorie and/or high carb. That tends to create
cravings in most. Try some experimentation. For the same total
calories, attempt different mixtures of fat and carb. You may
find that more carb and less fat helps but at least as likely
you'll find that less carb and more fat helps. Keeping to the
same total calories will ensure you don't switch to over eating
so eating too much fat will never be an issue. Worth trying in
both directions one way at a time.
> I've tried eating a little of these "binge foods" every now and
> then, a little at a time, but what ends up happening is that
> the fork or spoon keeps finding my mouth, and I end up eating
> too much of the foods I want to avoid.
Compulsive behavior is an addiction symptom. The best way to
deal with an addiction is to identify the trigger food (standard
Atkins method that you figured out just fine) and then as
complete avoidance as you can (12-step style works best).
The question is if you have general appetite that's fixed by
changing the fat-to-carb ratio for the same total caloies, or
if it's only a few specific foods that you need to avoid.
> I guess this is a common problem
Yup, and a gnarly one because of desires from the body and
advertizing bias in the media.