Diabetes and weight gain

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Ignoramus25231 - 27 Jul 2004 16:12 GMT

I am curious about something. As you all know, type II diabetes is
usually preceded by obesity. To those Type 2s here who were obese, I
am curious, did you, at some point in life, suddenly started having
very strong hunger, huge cravings, etc? Something unnatural?

Or was it simply recreational eating that you could easily regulate?

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Dewolla Stepon - 28 Jul 2004 13:57 GMT

> I am curious about something. As you all know, type II diabetes is
> usually preceded by obesity. To those Type 2s here who were obese, I
> am curious, did you, at some point in life, suddenly started having
> very strong hunger, huge cravings, etc? Something unnatural?
>
> Or was it simply recreational eating that you could easily regulate?

For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the
teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of gluttony.
I thought the only thing that would go wrong was weight gain. I ate because
it tasted good and I concentrated on the three food groups: fat, salt, and
sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety
signals ignored.

- Dewolla

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Ignoramus31782 - 28 Jul 2004 14:16 GMT

>> I am curious about something. As you all know, type II diabetes is
>> usually preceded by obesity. To those Type 2s here who were obese, I
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> sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety
> signals ignored.

Thank you. I actually meant to ask this question in
alt.support.diabetes, but posted to a wrong newsgroup, but anyway,
your answer is greatly appreciated.

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Lictor - 03 Aug 2004 12:26 GMT

> For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the
> teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of gluttony.
> I thought the only thing that would go wrong was weight gain. I ate because
> it tasted good and I concentrated on the three food groups: fat, salt, and
> sugar. It was unnatural eating, portions out of control and hunger/satiety
> signals ignored.

Same here... It was mostly psychological troubles (including a period with
bulimia crisis and real binge eating, like eating a pound of cake in one
go). Maybe diabete did help some with gaining weight, but I seriously doubt
it played a major part there. Mostly, it was the ability to totally ignore
my satiety and hunger signals, and relying only on the stomach full feeling
(that is when I didn't ignore and and just vomited to be able to eat some
more).
Since I have been paying attention to these signals, losing weight has not
been much of a problem. I lost my first 40 pounds in 5 months without
feeling hungry or anything, and without any kind of food restriction (only
rule during the first months was eating pure sugar only as part of a meal).
Hunger/satiety has been my only way of losing weight, I have not done any
calorie counting or portion control (except that I stop eating when I'm not
hungry anymore) or "diet", since I don't really believe in them. Weight loss
is somewhat stalling for a month, but I haven't gained weight either.
According to my nutritionist, this is okay, it's just the body adjusting to
the new parameters after a significant weight loss and the loss should
resume eventually.
Satiety/hunger seems in fact to be very strong now. On the rare occasions
(either to experiment or for special occasions) where I have been eating
beyond satiety, I do get a very *strong* signal that enough is enough, and I
stop eating. If I go beyond that, it gets downright nauseating, and I won't
feel hungry for a long while afterwards (usually means I won't feel like
having breakfast). Looking back, I realize I get that kind of feeling from
portions that are half what I used to eat before as a regular meal...
Diabete is getting way better too. Lipids are good and dropping (except HDL
which is a bit slow to take off). A1c is within the norm (at 5.8%, old
value, I have a recheck soon, should have been going further down), fasting
glucose is normal (1g), post-prandial (after a large brunch) glucose at 1h30
is equal to fasting value. I have been off meds for three months now, no
diet whatsoever.
So, it seems diabete doesn't really hinder my ability to lose weight. It
doesn't offset my appetite control either. Of course, YMMV. I was diagnosed
very early, while young and with an unbalance that was still "reasonnable"
(A1c was at 8.1% six months ago, at time of diagnosis, FG at 1.8g).

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Ignoramus7404 - 03 Aug 2004 13:45 GMT

>> For myself, I ate out of boredom, or out of habit (sitting in front of the
>> teevee meant I had to be eating something), but mostly because of
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> very early, while young and with an unbalance that was still "reasonnable"
> (A1c was at 8.1% six months ago, at time of diagnosis, FG at 1.8g).

I am very happy about your progress with diabetes Lictor.

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