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KellyClarksonTV - 30 Jul 2004 16:06 GMT
Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 16:21 GMT
> Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?

I am eating right now! I am on my 8th tomato for the day.

I am going to announce a tomato challenge, whoever eats most tomatoes,
wins. We already have a few insane chalenges going on here (like water
challenge), why not issue mine.

i
Chris Braun - 30 Jul 2004 16:44 GMT
>> Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
>
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>
>i

I sort of have the impression this KellyClarksonTV is a troll.  Don't
you think so?

Chris (eating Greek yogurt w/ honey at the moment)
A Ross - 30 Jul 2004 16:55 GMT
In article
<56rkg01hmkffjf0b6pk3ai0euf494p1rsn@4ax.com>, Chris
Braun <braun_chris@mindspring.com> wrote:
       

> I sort of have the impression this KellyClarksonTV is a
> troll.  Don't
> you think so?
>
> Chris (eating Greek yogurt w/ honey at the moment)

Absatively!

Amy (jealous that I can't locate Greek yogurt in these
here parts...)
SnugBear - 31 Jul 2004 02:02 GMT
> Amy (jealous that I can't locate Greek yogurt in these
> here parts...)

I'm astonished Wegman's doesn't carry it?  They have everything else.

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Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 16:55 GMT
>>> Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
>>
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>
> Chris (eating Greek yogurt w/ honey at the moment)

Well, I am not sure if she is a troll or not, there all kinds of odd
people. I think, personally, she she is more likely to be a genuine
person than not. She could be either.

i
Patricia Heil - 30 Jul 2004 16:57 GMT
> > Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
>
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>
> i

Dang, wish I had some good tomatoes.  The "ripe" ones in Giant today were
typical grocery store orange.
MJC - 30 Jul 2004 17:08 GMT
> > In article <20040730110642.14909.00000582@mb-m10.news.cs.com>,
> KellyClarksonTV wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Dang, wish I had some good tomatoes.  The "ripe" ones in Giant today were
> typical grocery store orange.

Sorry to digress but, aaaahhhhh the Giant, where Crowly Dairy products,
especially Sour Cream and Onion, reside. Thanks for the memories :)
Dally - 30 Jul 2004 17:14 GMT
>>In article <20040730110642.14909.00000582@mb-m10.news.cs.com>,
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Dang, wish I had some good tomatoes.  The "ripe" ones in Giant today were
> typical grocery store orange.

I'm with you.  I've got four HUGE tomato plants (I should say shrubs)
and they're covered with green tomatoes without a red one anywhere in
the bunch.  I planted a "salad" garden this year: all stuff I go out and
pick for a salad.  I've harvested several heads of lettuce and spinach
and the snow peas... but no tomatoes.  I suspect the tomatoes will all
come at the exact same moment, though I purposely planted four different
sorts.

Dally
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 17:21 GMT
> I'm with you.  I've got four HUGE tomato plants (I should say shrubs)
> and they're covered with green tomatoes without a red one anywhere in
> the bunch.

Exactly my situation, also. 11 tomato plants, enormous sized, lots of
green tomatoes on them, very slow to ripen.

> I planted a "salad" garden this year: all stuff I go out and
> pick for a salad.  I've harvested several heads of lettuce and spinach
> and the snow peas... but no tomatoes.  I suspect the tomatoes will all
> come at the exact same moment, though I purposely planted four different
> sorts.

I hope thay they at least ripen.

i
Patricia Heil - 30 Jul 2004 21:40 GMT
> > I'm with you.  I've got four HUGE tomato plants (I should say shrubs)
> > and they're covered with green tomatoes without a red one anywhere in
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>
> i

Doesn't matter.

   Title: Fried Green Tomatoes
 Categories: Native amer, Vegetables
      Yield: 6 servings

      2 lb Green tomatoes
      4 ea Eggs
  1 1/4 c  Corn meal
    3/4 c  Water
    1/4 c  Minced chives
      1 tb Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper, fresh ground
    1/4 c  Butter or margarine

  Slice the tomatoes 1/2 inch thick, but do not peel or core.  Drain
  well between several thicknesses of paper toweling until most of the
  moisture of the tomatoes is absorbed.  While the tomatoes are
  draining, make a batter by beating the eggs until light, then mixing
  in the corn meal, water, minced chives, salt and pepper.  In a large,
  heavy iron skillet, heat the butter or margarine until bubbly.  Dip
  the tomato slices into batter, and brown quickly on both sides. Serve
  at once.

  From:  The Art of American Indian Cooking by Yeffe Kimball and Jean
  Anderson, Avon Books, New York, NY, 1965.

We used to call green tomato relish picalilli

     Title: Green Tomato Relish
 Categories: Relishes, Vegetables, Preserve
      Yield: 6 servings

      6 ea Red Sweet Peppers *             3 1/2 c  Sugar
      2 lb Green Tomatoes *                    2 c  Cider Vinegar
      2 lb Onions *                            1 c  Water
      1 ea Small Head Cabbage *                1 tb Mustard Seed
      3 ea Sweet Green Peppers *               1 tb Ground Turmeric
    1/4 c  Pickling Salt                       2 ts Celery Seed

  *    All vegetables are to be coarsely ground.

~-------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Mix vegetables and salt.  Cover and let stand 12 to 18 hours.  Drain
  vegetables and rinse.  Mix vegetables and remaining ingredients.  Heat to
  boiling; reduce heat.  Simmer, uncovered, 3 minutes.  Pack simmering
  mixture in hot jars, leaving 1/8" headspace; seal.  Process 10 minutes in
  a boiling water bath.
  Makes 5 - 6 pints.
  NOTE:
  ~----
  Vegetables can be chopped if you prefer.
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 23:03 GMT
>> > I'm with you.  I've got four HUGE tomato plants (I should say shrubs)
>> > and they're covered with green tomatoes without a red one anywhere in
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>    From:  The Art of American Indian Cooking by Yeffe Kimball and Jean
>    Anderson, Avon Books, New York, NY, 1965.

An unusual recipe, I will definitely try it.

> We used to call green tomato relish picalilli
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>    Makes 5 - 6 pints.
>    NOTE:

this does not seem very appealing to me. Thanks Patricia, I will try
the first recipe.

i
DrLith - 02 Aug 2004 19:25 GMT
> An unusual recipe, I will definitely try it.

I like fried green tomatoes, but they're a big PITA, AFAIK. A reasonable,
less-effort approximation can be achieved by salting the tomatoes a bit and
letting them sweat for 5 minutes, dipping in corn meal, then baking in the
oven (flip once) until they're browned. I'm not sure what temperature I used
to use, I haven't had an oversupply of green tomatoes for a few years.
Ignoramus2586 - 02 Aug 2004 19:45 GMT
>> An unusual recipe, I will definitely try it.
>
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> oven (flip once) until they're browned. I'm not sure what temperature I used
> to use, I haven't had an oversupply of green tomatoes for a few years.

Thanks Dr.

My tomatoes are starting to ripen now, but I will try your recipe out
of pure interest.

i
SnugBear - 31 Jul 2004 02:07 GMT
> Doesn't matter.
>
>     Title: Fried Green Tomatoes

Don't forget Green Tomato Mincemeat!!! yummmm

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Patricia Heil - 30 Jul 2004 21:38 GMT
> >>In article <20040730110642.14909.00000582@mb-m10.news.cs.com>,
> >
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>
> Dally

Yup, IIRC you had to be ready with lots of Mason jars.  Do they still sell
those?  I haven't looked.
SnugBear - 31 Jul 2004 02:05 GMT
> Yup, IIRC you had to be ready with lots of Mason jars.  Do they still
> sell those?  I haven't looked.

Absolutely!  Any grocery store or even hardware stores carry them.  I have
a basement full and can get more at any yardsale on Saturday<s>

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Dally - 31 Jul 2004 04:38 GMT
>>Yup, IIRC you had to be ready with lots of Mason jars.  Do they still
>>sell those?  I haven't looked.
>
> Absolutely!  Any grocery store or even hardware stores carry them.  I have
> a basement full and can get more at any yardsale on Saturday<s>

It's always the lids you have to go buy.  I've never canned as an adult,
but I certainly recall doing it as a child.  Jams and pickles, too.

Dally
Teri - 30 Jul 2004 22:52 GMT
> >>In article <20040730110642.14909.00000582@mb-m10.news.cs.com>,
> >
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>
> Dally

Us too.  Lots of green tomatos.  We have, however, harvested and still have
growing a *ton* of cucumbers. I give them to our families and neighbors
(neighbors in turn share zucchinis and parsley).  My pepper plants are doing
well - just about ready to pick a couple  this weekend.  Something/someone
is eating my basil!  Must spray with organic insectisidal soap. And, this is
the first year we planted corn- and I've already got little husks forming
:-)
Teri
Dally - 30 Jul 2004 17:15 GMT
>>Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
>
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> wins. We already have a few insane chalenges going on here (like water
> challenge), why not issue mine.

I don't think a water challenge is insane.  We've got to retrain
ourselves to get adequate hydration, IMO.

Now excuse me because I'm going to take this prompt and go get a large
glass of water.

Dally
jmk - 30 Jul 2004 17:54 GMT
> I don't think a water challenge is insane.  We've got to retrain
> ourselves to get adequate hydration, IMO.

Thanks Dally!  Actually, from the very beginning hydration was one of my
goals.  When I first started this WOL -- over a year ago -- I wrote down
three goals and one of they was "stay hydrated" because I knew at the
time that was an issue for me.  I think that I've done well with it.
Bringing my 1 liter water bottle to work with me each day certainly helps!

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Mary M - Ohio - 30 Jul 2004 20:25 GMT
I agree that there is nothing "insane" about a water challenge -- it is definitely a
goal I need to keep top of mind!

Mary

> > I don't think a water challenge is insane.  We've got to retrain
> > ourselves to get adequate hydration, IMO.
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> time that was an issue for me.  I think that I've done well with it.
> Bringing my 1 liter water bottle to work with me each day certainly helps!
JMA - 30 Jul 2004 20:45 GMT
> I agree that there is nothing "insane" about a water challenge -- it is definitely a
> goal I need to keep top of mind!
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> > time that was an issue for me.  I think that I've done well with it.
> > Bringing my 1 liter water bottle to work with me each day certainly helps!

That's what I took issue with, the use of the word "insane".  Apparently
everything he doesn't understand or agree with is "insane" or "idiotic."

Jenn
but using antifreeze for deodorant is fine...
Liz - 31 Jul 2004 04:10 GMT
> >>Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
> >
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> I don't think a water challenge is insane.  We've got to retrain
> ourselves to get adequate hydration, IMO.

I agree...
During last year's fitness test my percentage of body water was incredibly
low (something in the 30s).  I am now in the healthy range of 55.9%.  I
didn't realize that I wasn't hydrating myself enough.

~Liz
140(?)/132.5/125
(BF%)35.7/26.3/20(?)
JMA - 30 Jul 2004 19:15 GMT
> > Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?
>
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>
> i

Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.

Jenn
Jarkat2002 - 30 Jul 2004 19:39 GMT
>Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
>the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.
>
>Jenn

I'm wondering the same thing.  I am not in a contest w/ anyone to see who can
drink the most water ... but to keep myself aware of how much water I consume
until the increase in water consumption becomes more natural or habitual for
me.
I have gone weeks w/o drinking any water at all.  
~Kat

"Help is on it's way."
~John Kerry
Phil M. - 30 Jul 2004 20:14 GMT
> "Help is on it's way."
> ~John Kerry

That's nice. In the mean time, Mr. Kerry needs help with his grammar. ;-)

Phil M.
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 20:19 GMT
>>Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
>>the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> until the increase in water consumption becomes more natural or habitual for
> me.

I find it odd to compete, in some way, about who drinks how much
water, of all things. Not that I question the value of drinking water,
but drinking water is not any sort of accomplishment to make a
challenge of.

i
Jarkat2002 - 30 Jul 2004 20:24 GMT
>I find it odd to compete, in some way, about who drinks how much
>water, of all things. Not that I question the value of drinking water,
>but drinking water is not any sort of accomplishment to make a
>challenge of.
>
>i

Well, I can see why you don't get it .. it's not a competition .. it's a
challenge.
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 20:40 GMT
>>I find it odd to compete, in some way, about who drinks how much
>>water, of all things. Not that I question the value of drinking water,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Well, I can see why you don't get it .. it's not a competition .. it's a
> challenge.

Okay, so, maybe I am missing the point of it!

i
who drinks water for enternainment value
Mary M - Ohio - 30 Jul 2004 20:25 GMT
> >>Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
> >>the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> i

Who's competing? It's about setting a goal and reaching it -- good grief.

Mary
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 20:52 GMT
>> >>Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
>> >>the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Who's competing? It's about setting a goal and reaching it -- good grief.

Here's what "Kelly Klarkson" said:

> From: kellyclarksontv@cs.com (KellyClarksonTV)
> Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
> Subject: Re: Water Challenge (Day 2, Thursday)
>
> Good, but not good enough. I drink more than 180oz everyday!

So, some people are competing!

i
JMA - 30 Jul 2004 20:56 GMT
> >> >>Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
> >> >>the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> i

You seem to be the only one taking the troll seriously.
Jarkat2002 - 30 Jul 2004 21:10 GMT
>Here's what "Kelly Klarkson" said:
>
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>
>i

Well, you know .. some people are just ignoramuses.
~Kat

"help is on the way"
~John Kerry
Ignoramus6756 - 30 Jul 2004 21:17 GMT
>>Here's what "Kelly Klarkson" said:
>>
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>
> Well, you know .. some people are just ignoramuses.

True.

i
Mary M - Ohio - 31 Jul 2004 13:25 GMT
> > Who's competing? It's about setting a goal and reaching it -- good grief.
> > From: kellyclarksontv@cs.com (KellyClarksonTV)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> So, some people are competing!

I have no interest in what the troll says. In fact, I was amused that he/she/it
probably thought a big stink would arise out of this thread, and the big topic has
been what to do with tomatoes.

Mary
jmk - 02 Aug 2004 13:01 GMT
> So, some people are competing!
>
> i

Oh, I see,  the troll clearly is more credible that anyone who has been
on the ng for any period of time..

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jmk - 30 Jul 2004 20:35 GMT
>>>Why is the water challenge insane?  It's not a contest to see who can drink
>>>the most but instead a way to motivate people to get enough fluids.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> I find it odd to compete,

It's not a competition.  As the person above stated, "I am not in a
contest w/ anyone..." and the person above that "It's not a contest..."

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

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MH - 31 Jul 2004 03:29 GMT
> > In article <20040730110642.14909.00000582@mb-m10.news.cs.com>,
> KellyClarksonTV wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Jenn

I'd join, but I always get plenty of water. He probably doesn't like because
he did start it. LOL!

Martha
Phil M. - 30 Jul 2004 18:11 GMT
> Haven't eaten in 36 hours ... you?

Try not eating or drinking. Then we'll talk.

Phil M.

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