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WeightLoss-Stories.com - 02 Aug 2004 06:29 GMT

Hi there,

I've lurked on the newsgroups for some time, but never posted. My husband
and I are both overweight and have just re-evaluated our eating habits and
fitness habits in an attempt to change our lifestyles, both for our own
sakes and our childrens'. We have decided to give low-carbing a try, and it
is working for us quite well thus far. My husband is a type II diabetic and
has high blood pressure, and I have hypothyroidism. We're a mess! =)

Along with our renewed sense of health, we have created a website which we
feel will help us and many others as well. It is at
www.weightloss-stories.com. It is a place where people can post their
weight loss success stories in order to help motivate and inspire others
towards their own successful weight loss and fitness health. It's fully
searcheable by gender, pounds lost, dietplan, etc.

It's an entirely free site to use, there are no charges for anything, and we
aren't selling anything. So please come and post your success stories or
'works in progress' along with your before, during, and after photos and
help inspire others, (and us!).

I'd really like to compare the success of different plans through reading
these various stories, although I am sure it really doesn't come down to the
plan so much as the determination of the person following the plan!

Take care, I hope you'll visit soon.

Leasa.
www.weightloss-stories.com

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Patricia Heil - 02 Aug 2004 13:23 GMT

YOU NEED TO READ THE REPORT that says that low-carb is bad for diabetics
because it stresses the kidneys which are already at risk in diabetics!!
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20040717/bob8.asp

Another concern focuses on the kidneys, especially in people with diabetes,
which itself damages those organs. Proteins contain nitrogen, which the
kidneys must remove from the body. So, the extra protein typical of
low-carbohydrate diets makes the kidneys work harder than normal. These
diets could further damage kidneys already injured by diabetes or some other
problem, notes Nathaniel Clark of the National Diabetes Association in
Alexandria, Va.

> Hi there,
>
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> Leasa.
> www.weightloss-stories.com

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Ignoramus2586 - 02 Aug 2004 13:50 GMT

> YOU NEED TO READ THE REPORT that says that low-carb is bad for diabetics
> because it stresses the kidneys which are already at risk in diabetics!!
> http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20040717/bob8.asp

Most low carbers do not eat much more protein than non-low-carbers.

They eat more fat, not protein. That low carb diets are "high protein
diets", is mainly a myth.

> Another concern focuses on the kidneys, especially in people with
> diabetes, which itself damages those organs. Proteins contain
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> injured by diabetes or some other problem, notes Nathaniel Clark of
> the National Diabetes Association in Alexandria, Va.

Kidneys in diabetes are damaged by high blood sugars, not by protein.

http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/138/6/460

`` In multivariate linear regression analyses, high protein intake was
not significantly associated with change in estimated GFR in women
with normal renal function (defined as an estimated GFR 80 mL/min per
1.73 m2).''

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>> Hi there,
>>
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>> Leasa.
>> www.weightloss-stories.com

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Doug Freyburger - 03 Aug 2004 21:03 GMT

> YOU NEED TO READ THE REPORT that says that low-carb is bad for diabetics
> because it stresses the kidneys which are already at risk in diabetics!!
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> problem, notes Nathaniel Clark of the National Diabetes Association in
> Alexandria, Va.

The other side of the coin is that low carb plans are the best for
controlling blood sugar which is one of the major goals for diabetics.
so it isn't that simple.

Atkins with ketosis forbids folks with existing kidney damage but it
does absolutely no damage whatsoever to kidneys that are not already
damaged. Not even one case in three decades. This can either mean
to get the test for kidney damage before starting Atkins, or not
doing Atkins, or doing one of the non-ketotic low carb plans. It
is easy to suggest a mildly low carb plan like Carbohydrate Addicts
Diet or Sugarbusters to avoid encountering any such issue.

Also there's the issue that Atkins is not high protein so the entire
posting begs to discover the ulterior motive. Why accuse low carb
diets of being high portein when they are not? Is it ignorance of
what low carb plans actually are, or is there some hidden motive?

The problem is poor blood sugar control is a far worse danger to
kidneys and high carb plans reduce blood sugar control unless you
follow a very strict schedule.

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WeightLoss-Stories.com - 04 Aug 2004 15:57 GMT

I think that's exactly it. When I say we are low carbing, I didn't say we
are necessarily doing Atkins, going into ketosis, or doing high-protein.
We've simply lowered our carbs.

We have increased BOTH our fats (mostly GOOD fats) and our proteins to make
up for that. We aren't going low carb enought to go into ketosis. But
enought to manage his blood sugar. And believe me, his blood sugar testing
is proving the results for us.

Leasa
www.weightloss-stories.com

> > YOU NEED TO READ THE REPORT that says that low-carb is bad for diabetics
> > because it stresses the kidneys which are already at risk in diabetics!!
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> kidneys and high carb plans reduce blood sugar control unless you
> follow a very strict schedule.

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Ignoramus11472 - 04 Aug 2004 16:25 GMT

> I think that's exactly it. When I say we are low carbing, I didn't say we
> are necessarily doing Atkins, going into ketosis, or doing high-protein.
> We've simply lowered our carbs.

To what level? just curious.

> We have increased BOTH our fats (mostly GOOD fats) and our proteins to make
> up for that. We aren't going low carb enought to go into ketosis. But
> enought to manage his blood sugar. And believe me, his blood sugar testing
> is proving the results for us.

I am very happy for you! I hope that he lives a long and healthy
life. That you can keep him stable with some diet changes, is very
good news.

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> Leasa
> www.weightloss-stories.com
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>> kidneys and high carb plans reduce blood sugar control unless you
>> follow a very strict schedule.

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