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Hydration challenge: is "hydration" overblown?

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Ignoramus2586 - 02 Aug 2004 18:03 GMT
This article explains nicely, with actual references, why several
"hydration" myths are unfounded in reality. A regular person drinking
all he wants, and staying in air conditioned environment, is not
dehydrated.

Note that nothing in this article suggests that drinking a lot of
water is harmful, all that it points out is that there is no problem
of "dehydration" for regular people not involved in strenuous
activities. Water drinking may have benefits, but hydration is not one
of them, according to this article.

"People who drank less than four glasses of water a day were no more
likely to show signs of dehydration than those who drank six or more,"
says Lindeman. "We found absolutely no difference between those who
drank a little and those who drank a lot when we looked at all the
standard markers for dehydration."

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http://my.webmd.com/content/article/14/1668_51096

Water, Water, Everywhere

How Much Water Do You Really Need to Drink?

By Peter Jaret
       

April 16, 2001 -- You'd think we were suffering a nationwide drought,
the way Americans go around clutching bottles of water these
days. Forget American Express cards: The one thing many of us would
never dream of leaving home without is our bottled water.

By all rights, that should be good news. For years nutritionists have
been warning us about the dangers of dehydration. Quaff at least eight
8-ounce glasses of water, the common wisdom goes, or you'll suffer the
consequences: flagging energy, dry skin, lowered disease resistance,
even constipation.

And don't count the coffee, tea, or other caffeinated beverages you
drink. Anything with caffeine, we've long been told, actually
increases the risk of dehydration because it flushes water out of the
system.

Nor can you rely on thirst. By the time you're thirsty, you're well on
your way to being dehydrated.

There's only one problem with all these warnings. Almost none of them
hold water. Here's why:

Myth No. 1: We need to drink at least eight 8-ounce glasses of water a
day

Researchers aren't sure where this familiar advice came from, but most
agree there's very little solid scientific evidence to support it. The
average adult loses only about 1 liter of water a day through sweating
and other bodily processes -- the equivalent of only four 8-ounce
glasses. We typically get that much water just in the foods we
eat. Drinking an additional eight tall glasses of H20 is probably more
fluid than most of us need.

What about older people? For years, experts have warned that elderly
people are especially prone to dehydration because they lose their
sense of thirst. But even this may be overstated, according to a
report in the July 2000 Journal of Gerontology. Robert Lindeman, MD,
professor emeritus of medicine at the University of New Mexico,
surveyed fluid consumption among 833 elderly volunteers.

"People who drank less than four glasses of water a day were no more
likely to show signs of dehydration than those who drank six or more,"
says Lindeman. "We found absolutely no difference between those who
drank a little and those who drank a lot when we looked at all the
standard markers for dehydration."

Of course, that doesn't mean you shouldn't drink plenty of water a
day. In fact, there's at least one reason to think it's a very good
idea. In a 1999 study published in The New England Journal of
Medicine, researchers found that the more liquids men consumed, the
lower their risk of bladder cancer. Men who drank more than 10 8-ounce
servings of fluids had a 49% lower incidence of the disease than those
who drank only half that much.

Myth No. 2: Caffeinated beverages make you dehydrated

Not true.

"For years, newspaper and magazine articles have repeated the notion
that caffeine is dehydrating as if it's absolute fact," says
University of Nebraska researcher Ann Grandjean, EdD. But in a study
published in the October 2000 Journal of the American College of
Nutrition, Grandjean and her colleagues at the Center for Human
Nutrition showed that it's pure fantasy.

The researchers looked at how different combinations of water, coffee,
and caffeinated colas affected hydration levels in a group of 18 men
between the ages of 24 and 39. During one phase of the experiment, the
only fluid the volunteers consumed was water. During another, 75% of
their intake was caffeinated.

"Using almost every test ever devised to measure dehydration, we found
no difference at all," says Grandjean.

Myth No. 3: By the time you feel thirsty, you're already becoming
dehydrated

Maybe if you're an elite athlete running a marathon or a hotshot
tennis player sweating in the noonday sun -- but not if you're going
about your everyday activities.

Thirst is, in fact, a very sensitive mechanism for regulating fluid
intake, according to Barbara Rolls, PhD, a nutrition researcher at
Pennsylvania State University. In a 1984 study in Physiology and
Behavior, she and a group of colleagues at Oxford University followed
a group of men as they went through their normal day. Left to their
own devices, the volunteers became thirsty and drank long before their
hydration levels showed any signs of dipping.

Says Rolls, "If people have access to water or other fluid beverages,
they seem to do a very good job of maintaining hydration levels."

Myth No. 4: Drinking plenty of water can help you lose weight

This idea makes sense, since water contains no calories. The trouble
is, drinking a glass of water doesn't do anything to take the edge off
hunger.

"Water sneaks right past without triggering satiety signals, the cues
that tell your body when you're full," says nutritionist Barbara
Rolls, author of Volumetrics.

Surprisingly, adding water to the food you eat, on the other hand,
does seem to tame hunger. In a study reported in the October 1999
American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Rolls found that women who eat
a bowl of chicken soup feel fuller than those who eat chicken
casserole served with a glass of water, even though both meals contain
exactly the same ingredients. The soup eaters also tended to be less
hungry at their next meal -- and to eat consume fewer calories -- than
those who ate the casserole.

There is one way that drinking water could help you lose weight,
however: if you drink it in place of beverages that contain a lot of
added sugar. Like water, sugary beverages fail to trigger a sense of
fullness, which means you can consume a lot of calories without taking
the edge off hunger.

Peter Jaret is a freelance writer in Petaluma, California, who has
written for Health, Hippocrates, and many other national publications.
JMA - 02 Aug 2004 23:19 GMT
> This article explains nicely, with actual references, why several
> "hydration" myths are unfounded in reality. A regular person drinking
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> drank a little and those who drank a lot when we looked at all the
> standard markers for dehydration."

So then don't drink a lot of water!!!  Drinking 8-10 glasses a day isn't
harmful in the least and those of us who strive to drink 128 oz. are not
doing ourselves any harm whatsoever.  Drinking water helps some people feel
more full without having to eat more.  It also helps to keep water retention
down and for some people that's a problem that interferes with weight loss.
It helps with digestion, relieves constipation, and aids with muscle
performance.  Most REPUTABLE health professionals and fitness experts agree
that water is important to overall health and fitness.

See, unlike you, we're able to promote our healthy habits amongst ourselves
without putting other people's habits down.  If you don't want to drink more
than your 2 cups of water, go ahead, no one gives a crap.

The water challenge is not "insane" as you called it and now you're just
suffering from sour grapes because no one played along with your game.  Grow
up.

Jenn
Soda is nasty - 09 Aug 2004 10:52 GMT
>Subject: Hydration challenge: is "hydration" overblown?
>From: Ignoramus2586 ignoramus2586@NOSPAM.2586.invalid
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>activities. Water drinking may have benefits, but hydration is not one
>of them, according to this article.

Just depends on the person.  Someone who works outdoors in a hot climate might
actually need eight cups of water per day.

>"People who drank less than four glasses of water a day were no more
>likely to show signs of dehydration than those who drank six or more,"
>says Lindeman. "We found
Annabel Smyth - 09 Aug 2004 16:12 GMT
>Note that nothing in this article suggests that drinking a lot of
>water is harmful, all that it points out is that there is no problem
>of "dehydration" for regular people not involved in strenuous
>activities. Water drinking may have benefits, but hydration is not one
>of them, according to this article.

Probably very true, but!  And in this case, the "but" is that we
(husband and self; in this case especially husband) have often found
that, even when we do not feel especially thirsty, a large glass of
water will often cure a headache without the need to resort to further
painkillers.

And although tea and coffee do help quench thirst, they do tend to go
"straight through you"... who was it said that beer is the only liquid
to pass through the human body unchanged?  (That last sentence is a
joke, by the way, for those who have no sense of humour).
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Ignoramus24206 - 09 Aug 2004 16:24 GMT
>>Note that nothing in this article suggests that drinking a lot of
>>water is harmful, all that it points out is that there is no problem
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> water will often cure a headache without the need to resort to further
> painkillers.

Interesting.

I recently had a headache that was cured by me doing 43 pushups. Very
inexplicably.

i
SnugBear - 10 Aug 2004 01:39 GMT
> Probably very true, but!  And in this case, the "but" is that we
> (husband and self; in this case especially husband) have often found
> that, even when we do not feel especially thirsty, a large glass of
> water will often cure a headache without the need to resort to further
> painkillers.

More and more I find this to be true.  Water is like a miracle cure for
lots of little aches and pains.  I always try water first.

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