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Ignoramus7404 - 03 Aug 2004 15:44 GMT
I am thinking of joining, and am curious if anyone else here has. Is
it a hassle? Will I be bothered all the time by researchers or some
other things, or not?

http://www.lifespan.org/services/bmed/wt_loss/nwcr/

Thanks

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*bicker* - 03 Aug 2004 16:30 GMT
A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
<ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
> I am thinking of joining, and am curious if anyone else here has. Is
> it a hassle? Will I be bothered all the time by researchers or some
> other things, or not?

No hassle at all.  We receive surveys every so often, and
follow-ups if there is anything that didn't go through
directly.  In two years we've gotten only three press
inquiries (one of which led to our appearance on Good
Morning America), and of those, only one wasn't well-vetted
IMHO.  (It was a stringer, who really was a college student
doing a paper, rather than contacting the NWCR as a member
of the press on assignment as originally claimed.)

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Ignoramus7404 - 03 Aug 2004 16:35 GMT
> A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
><ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> doing a paper, rather than contacting the NWCR as a member
> of the press on assignment as originally claimed.)

Thanks Bicker. I submitted my application.

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jmk - 03 Aug 2004 17:19 GMT
>>A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
>><ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> i
I thought that you started maintenance last October?  If so, you have
not maintained for one year and therefore you do not qualify.

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Ignoramus7404 - 03 Aug 2004 17:31 GMT
>>>A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
>>><ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> I thought that you started maintenance last October?  If so, you have
> not maintained for one year and therefore you do not qualify.

I started maintenance last September. I lost 30 lbs by August 3, 2003,
so I do qualify, since I maintained my 30 lbs weight loss for one
year. My total weight loss though, is 50 lbs.

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jmk - 03 Aug 2004 17:42 GMT
>>>>A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
>>>><ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> so I do qualify, since I maintained my 30 lbs weight loss for one
> year. My total weight loss though, is 50 lbs.

I'm pretty sure that they mean one year of maintaining your total weight
loss.

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Bob in CT - 03 Aug 2004 17:47 GMT
>>>>> A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
>>>>> <ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> I'm pretty sure that they mean one year of maintaining your total weight
> loss.

That's a pretty ridiculous criterion, in my opinion.  For those of us who
gained almost 100 pounds, it takes a while to lose that amount of weight.  
While I've lost almost 60 pounds, I still have a lot to go.  Based on that
criterion, I won't be able to join this for at least two more years.

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*bicker* - 04 Aug 2004 01:56 GMT
A Tue, 03 Aug 2004 16:47:27 GMT, Bob in CT
<ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> escribió:
> > I'm pretty sure that they mean one year of maintaining your total weight
> > loss.
> That's a pretty ridiculous criterion, in my opinion.  For those of us who
> gained almost 100 pounds, it takes a while to lose that amount of weight.  
> While I've lost almost 60 pounds, I still have a lot to go.  Based on that
> criterion, I won't be able to join this for at least two more years.

Not only that, but "total weight loss" is pretty arbitrary
-- each person determines their own goal weight, and can
readily change it as they wish.  30 pounds is 30 pounds the
world around.

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Ignoramus7404 - 03 Aug 2004 17:58 GMT
>>>>>A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
>>>>><ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> I'm pretty sure that they mean one year of maintaining your total weight
> loss.

``The National Weight Control Registry is a research study that seeks
to gather information from people who have successfully lost weight
and kept it off. The registry would like to hear from anyone 18 years
of age or older who has: lost at least 30 pounds, and maintained a
weight loss of at least 30 pounds for one year or more''

I lost at least 30 lbs, and maintained a weight loss of at least 30
pounds for one year. That I lost more weight after August 3, 2003, is
nice, but does not hurt my eligibility.

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*bicker* - 04 Aug 2004 01:55 GMT
A Tue, 03 Aug 2004 12:42:13 -0400, jmk <jmk446NOT@yahoo.com>
escribió:
> >>I thought that you started maintenance last October?  If so, you have
> >>not maintained for one year and therefore you do not qualify.
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> I'm pretty sure that they mean one year of maintaining your total weight
> loss.

Nope.  They mean one year of maintaining a weight-loss of 30
pounds.

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FOB - 03 Aug 2004 17:52 GMT
If you have been losing for over a year and are still losing it seems to me
that you are maintaining your original weight loss.

In news:2n9s8jFulenfU1@uni-berlin.de,
jmk <jmk446NOT@yahoo.com> stated

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tcomeau - 05 Aug 2004 15:45 GMT
> A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
> <ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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> doing a paper, rather than contacting the NWCR as a member
> of the press on assignment as originally claimed.)

The National Weight Control Registry is run by James O. Hill and Rena
R. Wing.

Here is some info about these people and others that have been
connected to this project and some of its studies.

***************************
James O. Hill, Ph.D., Professor of Pediatrics and Director, Center for
Human Nutrition at the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center,
Denver, CO. Research support from Amgen, Hoffman-LaRoche, Procter &
Gamble, and Knoll Pharmaceuticals; has received consultant fees from
Knoll, Roche Laboratories, International Life Sciences Institute, and
Procter & Gamble and is a consultant to the Duke Diet and Fitness
Center. (Newark Star-Ledger, 2/17/97). President, North American
Association for the Study of Obesity. (USA Today, 9/1/98) Lead author
of a study on olestra supported by a grant from Procter & Gamble. (Am.
J. Clin. Nutr. 1998;67:1178-85) Co-wrote (with Barbara Rolls) a 1998
report for ILSI on "Carbohydrates and Weight Management." Participated
in a 3/25/99 panel assembled by the Sugar Association to inform New
York magazine editors about obesity, calories, and activity. (Sugar
Association's 1999 annual report,
http://www.foodingredientsonline.com; accessed 03/30/99) Research on
the effects of covert substitution of olestra for conventional fat on
spontaneous food intake supported by Procter & Gamble. (Am. J. Clin.
Nutr. 1998;67:1178-85) Research on the role of carbohydrates in weight
management was supported by the Sugar Association. (Letter from Sugar
Association to USDA; on file with CSPI; 4/16/99) Research on using
Orlistat for weight maintenance funded by Hoffmann-La Roche. (Am. J.
Clin. Nutr. 1999;69:1108-16) Member of the Foodfit.com advisory board.
(http://www.foodfit.com/about/advisoryBoard.asp; accessed 11/11/00)
Research on weight management supported in part by Abbott
Laboratories. (J. Amer. Coll. Nutr. 2001;20:26-31) Member of the
McDonald's Corporation Global Advisory Council on Healthy Lifestyles;
formed to "help guide the company on activities that address the need
for balanced, healthy lifestyles."
(http://www.mcdonalds.com/corporate/press/corporate/2003/05212003/;
accessed 6/23/03) Receives consulting fees from HealtheTech, Johnson &
Johnson, Procter & Gamble, and Coca-Cola. Receives speakers fees from
Abbott Laboratories, Roche Laboratories, and Kraft Foods. Receives
research funding from M&M Mars. (N. Engl. J. Med. 2003:348;2082-2090)
Member of the expert advisory board for the American Council for
Fitness and Nutrition. (http://www.acfn.org/about/advisory.html;
accessed 10/31/03)

Rena R. Wing, Ph.D., U. of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. Consultant
to and received research support from Lilly Pharmaceuticals, is on
Weight Watchers Advisory Board; has received research support from
Ross Laboratories and ILSI. (Newark Star-Ledger, 2/17/97 notes Eli
Lilly, WW)

Holly R. Wyatt, M.D., Assistant Professor of Medicine, University of
Colorado Health Sciences Center, Denver. Receives consulting fees from
Ortho-McNeil, USANA, and GlaxoSmithKline. Receives speaker fees from
Roche Laboratories, Abbott Laboratories, Slim-Fast, and Ortho-McNeil.
(N. Engl. J. Med. 2003;348:2082-90)

Helen M. Seagle, Co-authored a study on olestra and obesity supported
by a grant from Procter & Gamble. (Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 1998;67:1178-85)
************************************

I would have to say that the National Weight Control Registry is
somewhat suspect in its operation and in its reason for being. There
appears to be a specific agenda in place for the kind of data and the
use of the data being collected.

TC
Carol Frilegh - 05 Aug 2004 16:04 GMT
> > A 3 Aug 2004 14:44:42 GMT, Ignoramus7404
> > <ignoramus7404@NOSPAM.7404.invalid> escribió:
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>
> TC
I joined yesterday with 50 pounds to spare. (they ask for 30 and I gave
them 80)

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Ignoramus17820 - 05 Aug 2004 16:20 GMT
> I would have to say that the National Weight Control Registry is
> somewhat suspect in its operation and in its reason for being. There
> appears to be a specific agenda in place for the kind of data and the
> use of the data being collected.
>
> TC

What kind of agenda?

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Heywood Mogroot - 05 Aug 2004 19:54 GMT
> I would have to say that the National Weight Control Registry is
> somewhat suspect in its operation and in its reason for being. There
> appears to be a specific agenda in place for the kind of data and the
> use of the data being collected.

man I'll say. Has america always been this f.cked up or is it a more
recent thing?

Progressivism at the turn of the 20th century seemed to reign in some
of the extreme amoralism of big business, but it seems since the 80's
everything has basically been a holding action.

I'd buy alcoa stock but they have revolving-door ties to gov't too...
Mike Coleman - 23 Aug 2004 05:13 GMT
> I would have to say that the National Weight Control Registry is
> somewhat suspect in its operation and in its reason for being. There
> appears to be a specific agenda in place for the kind of data and the
> use of the data being collected.

Which would be what?  Or are you just trolling?
Dally - 23 Aug 2004 05:23 GMT
> Here is some info about these people and others that have been
> connected to this project and some of its studies.

You just said that obesity researchers have done obesity research.
Voila, you've proven a definition.

Exactly how do you think people get funded in obesity research, anyway?
 All those fancy NIH programs?  Not likely.  They get funded by drug
companies trying to find a way to make a buck.  This is a capitalist
society.  People merge their interests in an effort to both get their
needs met.  It's not a sign of evil.

Dally
*bicker* - 23 Aug 2004 12:55 GMT
A Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:23:36 -0400, Dally <dally@myself.com>
escribió:
> This is a capitalist society.

And that scares some people into silliness, eh?

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Ignoramus8546 - 23 Aug 2004 13:40 GMT
> A Mon, 23 Aug 2004 00:23:36 -0400, Dally <dally@myself.com>
> escribió:
>> This is a capitalist society.
>
> And that scares some people into silliness, eh?

One thing to always remember, capitalists care about their wallets,
not our health and fitness.

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