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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / August 2004What is the most weight you can lose
per day? per week? I have been trying a new diet and have lost 8 pounds in 5 days. I have never lost so quick before. Is this even possible?? I am freaking out a little bit. I only have about 15 pounds to lose and have been having an impossible time losing it after trying EVERY diet, including liquid fasting (stopped working) and nothing worked. But all of a sudden I dump 8 pounds in 5 days. Has this happened to anyone before? What about anorexics? People who starve totally...how much do they lose a day, a week? I am just curious because 8 pounds in 5 days seems like an unreal amount for someone eating. Thanks Vanessa > per day? per week? I have been trying a new diet and have lost 8 pounds in 5 > days. I have never lost so quick before. Is this even possible?? I am freaking [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > amount for someone eating. Thanks > Vanessa 15 pounds of what? Glycogen depletion where you didn't get enough liquids to restore it? No, you can't lose 8 pounds of fat in five days. But you can certainly have water weight changes around 5 pounds and lose another pound or two on a catabolic diet. But at that rate I'd still have to ask: pounds of what? Are you cannabilizing your muscles (including your heart) and leaching out density from your bones, or are you tapping into your fat stores preferentially? Rapid weight loss is associated with the former rather than the later and is CLOSELY associated with rapid regain (plus some) when you stop dieting. Five days of anything isn't going to kill you, but if you really do want to bring down your body fat percentage then you're going to have to get smart about it. Want some links? Dally Want some links? > Dally Yes please > Dally offered: >> Want some links? > Yes please Well, the absolute best site I could send you to is Mistress Krista's - she's got everything in there you'll ever need, but maybe you could start by going to this page: http://www.stumptuous.com/dietsdontwork.html And then read everything on the Eating section at the main site at: http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html Here's one that talks a bit about why you need to train and eat smart to burn preferentially from fat stores. It's part of a much larger site that goes into deep scientific detail on how energy is used, too, but start with the easy stuff: http://www.hussman.org/fitness/deficit.htm Here's a couple about why you want to measure body fat percentages rather than weight - it's really silly to aim for some random number when every body is different. http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm And here are two different body fat calculators: they give radically different answers for me and I trust the first one more than the second one, but the second one might be better for people who were never obese: http://www.biofitness.com/bodyfat.html http://www.he.net/~zone/prothd2.html For some nuts and bolts tools for weight loss I recommend you track your food at http://www.Fitday.com. Pay particular attention to portion sizes - this requires that you measure for a while. Measuring and logging are excellent tools to have in your diet toolbox and you'll find yourself coming back to them once in a while for the rest of your life when you need a sanity check on your diet. To learn how to do free weights (after you've read everything at Krista's site) go to http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html for a primer on what exercises work what muscles and how to do them. If you're going to get away from the scale (and I hope you've figured out that you need to by now) then I recommend you log your transformation someplace that pays attention to your changes from several points of view. This one shows pictures, measurements, body fat percentages as well as weight in a table format. http://www.body-for-life-tracker.com/ You can find my profile by searching for Dally. Take a look at it and notice how slowly I'm losing weight. In the past four months I've only lost 4 pounds. But I've lost another inch off of my hips and more than an inch off of my waist. Do you think a pound a month is too slow? It's not for me because I get feedback from other ways that my changes are coming along. There's more, but this is enough for now. Dally 244/174/168 42/26/23% but this is enough for now. I'll say......... > Dally > 244/174/168 > 42/26/23% What do these numbers indicate Thanks Rich > but this is enough for now. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>244/174/168 >>42/26/23% starting weight/current weight/goal weight, but since I'm focused on reaching a goal body fat percentage more than a goal weight, I also show my starting body fat percentage, my current body fat percentage and my goal body fat percentage. A woman aiming to be 23% is not going to be a fitness model. That'd be a curvy size 12 on me, with excess fat on my hips and maybe a bit of heft to my calves and upper arms. An athletic look might be at around 18%. I put my goals down to indicate what I'm looking for. This site gives some broad range ideas of what body fat percentages mean. http://www.healthchecksystems.com/bodyfat.htm Dally > > but this is enough for now. > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Dally Thanks for your responses. Rich > Well, the absolute best site I could send you to is Mistress Krista's - > she's got everything in there you'll ever need, but maybe you could [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > 244/174/168 > 42/26/23% good post > per day? per week? I have been trying a new diet and have lost 8 pounds in 5 > days. I have never lost so quick before. Is this even possible?? I am freaking > out a little bit. I only have about 15 pounds to lose and have been having an > impossible time losing it after trying EVERY diet, including liquid fasting > (stopped working) and nothing worked. But all of a sudden I dump 8 pounds in 5 > days. Has this happened to anyone before? Give thanks and keep on trucking!  SignatureDiva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman > per day? per week? Reasonnable is considered 2lbs/week. Some even say as low as 1lb/week. Though it's hard to get a general rule. Men tend to lose weight faster than women, and seem to do that safely. Very-overweight people tend to lose the first pounds pretty fast, and then it slows down. As a woman with only a little to lose, you could expect 1lb/week to be a decent rate, the last pounds tend to be pretty slow. You can also expect some stalls, or even some bumps. As long as the trend doesn't go off track, this is pretty normal. > I have been trying a new diet and have lost 8 pounds in 5 > days. I have never lost so quick before. Is this even possible?? Are you doing a low carb diet? A strict proteidic diet? If you don't get carbs from food, you use up your glucose stores from your liver and muscles. Each molecule of glucose is bound to several molecules of water (4 IIRC), which is dumped when the glucose is release. That's quite a lot of weight. That's probably most of what you lost, you litterally peed it out. Unfortunately, it's mostly water. You will get most of it back if you eat carbs in significant amount - but again, it will mostly be water. You will get a real significant rate of loss next week. In the meantime, don't forget you're dumping water : *drink* :) > But all of a sudden I dump 8 pounds in 5 > days. Has this happened to anyone before? IF you check alt.support.diet.low-carb, it has happen to about everyone there... > What about anorexics? People who starve totally...how much do they lose a day, > a week? Since they eat no carb, they will lose that water weight. Then, you can expect them to lose *slower* than someone on a more reasonnable diet. The human body is well designed, it has a good strategy to deal with extended famines. By default, your body thinks that any starving that lasts more than a few days is going to last for months. When it detects one (no food for several day is a good sign), it starts burning muscles (reduces basal metabolism, muscles are expensive to maintain) and does everything it can to slow down your metabolism : turns you apathic, reduces unconscious moves, makes you sleepy... After a several days of starving, your body will be able to live on 1000 calories a day, or less. And of course, once you stop starving yourself after an extensive fasting, you will have a body left with as little muscles as possible, a very low metabolism and that it completely tuned towards being as economic as possible. It will be also very efficient at storing new body fat to survive the next famine that is bound to happen (your body is a pessimistic). That's how anorexics manage to survive their illness for so long. On the other hand, most well designed diets will attempt *not* to trigger the starvation mode. One way is to keep the calories high enough to stay within your body's comfort zone. Then, your body's metabolism stays much higher, and the calorie deficit can actually be close or even higher than what you get from pure starvation. |
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