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MJC - 09 Aug 2004 19:19 GMT
I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
posts?

MJ
Annabel Smyth - 09 Aug 2004 19:36 GMT
>I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
>What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
>posts?

Accountability.  And to aid self-control.
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Elly - 09 Aug 2004 20:15 GMT
> >I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> >What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
> >posts?
> >
> Accountability.  And to aid self-control.

Annabel already answered that - I'd only add the motivation.

Elly
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Beverly - 09 Aug 2004 21:11 GMT
> > >I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> > >What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Elly
> 195.8/185.9/mini-goal by August 20th: 184.8

Others in the group often get ideas on healthy snacks and meals from the
posts, too

Beverly
Elly - 09 Aug 2004 21:19 GMT
> Others in the group often get ideas on healthy snacks and meals from the
> posts, too
>
> Beverly

Yes, that's true (although probably they don't get ideas from my posts,
lol!) - I still have a recipe for Wendy's lunch and like it (chicken and
veggie salad), and I also like Chris's salads and snacks :-)

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Dally - 09 Aug 2004 22:06 GMT
> Yes, that's true (although probably they don't get ideas from my posts,
> lol!) - I still have a recipe for Wendy's lunch and like it (chicken and
> veggie salad)

That's a recipe?!  Wow.  I just throw together a plate of greens and
plop some meat on it and spray it with Toasted Sesame Oil.  It's not a
recipe, it's a behavior.  :-)

Dally aka Wendy
SnugBear - 10 Aug 2004 01:56 GMT
> That's a recipe?!  Wow.  I just throw together a plate of greens and
> plop some meat on it and spray it with Toasted Sesame Oil.  It's not a
> recipe, it's a behavior.  :-)

Like flaxseed meal at every meal <s>

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Elly - 10 Aug 2004 11:44 GMT
> > Yes, that's true (although probably they don't get ideas from my posts,
> > lol!) - I still have a recipe for Wendy's lunch and like it (chicken and
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> plop some meat on it and spray it with Toasted Sesame Oil.  It's not a
> recipe, it's a behavior.  :-)

Well, I like it anyway :-)
I don't like chicken much, so getting the right ingredients with it into the
salad *was* important for me. Also, I liked the tip about putting the salad
in the plastic container and shaking it well so that the dressing spreads
evenly and you don't have to use a lot of it.

Elly
Dally - 11 Aug 2004 19:56 GMT
> "Dally" <dally@myself.com> ha scritto:
>
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>
> Well, I like it anyway :-)

Glad to hear it.

> I don't like chicken much, so getting the right ingredients with it into the
> salad *was* important for me. Also, I liked the tip about putting the salad
> in the plastic container and shaking it well so that the dressing spreads
> evenly and you don't have to use a lot of it.

Yes, that's a good tip.  I got that from a weight-loss group I was in
once.  Probably the only keeper from that three month session.  :-)

Dally
SnugBear - 10 Aug 2004 01:54 GMT
> Others in the group often get ideas on healthy snacks and meals from
> the posts, too

Chris got me eating canned tuna again. I wasn't sure I'd like it without
mayo but when I saw she put grapes in hers one day I thought "hmmmmm - I
have pineapple chunks in the fridge"  I added some lo cal blue cheese
dressing and loved it.

Thanks again for the inspiration, Chris.

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A Ross - 10 Aug 2004 19:27 GMT
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> > Others in the group often get ideas on healthy snacks
> > and meals from
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>
> Thanks again for the inspiration, Chris.

Yesterday for lunch I had a Tuna "Waldorf" salad:
drained 1 can of tuna, chopped a small apple, added 1
tbs Italian dressing, 1 tbs mayo. Mixed together, added
s&p, sprinkled on "Salad Toppings" and it was
delicious. Well, as delicious as canned tuna gets,
anyway.

Amy
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Annabel Smyth - 11 Aug 2004 12:00 GMT
>Yesterday for lunch I had a Tuna "Waldorf" salad:
>drained 1 can of tuna, chopped a small apple, added 1
>tbs Italian dressing, 1 tbs mayo. Mixed together, added
>s&p, sprinkled on "Salad Toppings" and it was
>delicious. Well, as delicious as canned tuna gets,
>anyway.

*If* you like tinned tuna - the kind they sell in France is much nicer,
I think.....  I think I might have liked chopped celery and chopped baby
corn in that, perhaps?
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SnugBear - 11 Aug 2004 14:41 GMT
> *If* you like tinned tuna - the kind they sell in France is much
> nicer, I think.....  I think I might have liked chopped celery and
> chopped baby corn in that, perhaps?

I have no idea how French canned tuna differs from Starkist or Chicken
of the Sea.  I do know canned tuna is a good, cheap way to get some
protein (32g per can) for my lunch and finding interesting flavors to
enhance it has been fun for me.  I like adding celery very much for
texture.

Once I started eating *much* less than I had been in my previous life,
my tastes changed and I was very grateful for any suggestions I found
here on asd.  We all can pick and choose what we want to try.  When I
hear someone say "But I don't like <insert least favorite food here>.",
I just think they haven't found a way to prepare it yet that they *will*
like. We had a thread recently about picky eaters.

All that being said, I'm still searching for a way to prepare oysters
that I'll enjoy. (not that I'll ever spend the money on them <g>)

Change your mind, change your life.

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Annabel Smyth - 11 Aug 2004 17:16 GMT
>> *If* you like tinned tuna - the kind they sell in France is much
>> nicer, I think.....  I think I might have liked chopped celery and
>> chopped baby corn in that, perhaps?
>
>I have no idea how French canned tuna differs from Starkist or Chicken
>of the Sea.

It's much more dense, somehow - rather more like fresh tuna.

>I do know canned tuna is a good, cheap way to get some
>protein (32g per can) for my lunch and finding interesting flavors to
>enhance it has been fun for me.  I like adding celery very much for
>texture.

I like raw celery, but seldom buy it as my husband dislikes it.

>Once I started eating *much* less than I had been in my previous life,
>my tastes changed and I was very grateful for any suggestions I found
>here on asd.  We all can pick and choose what we want to try.  When I
>hear someone say "But I don't like <insert least favorite food here>.",
>I just think they haven't found a way to prepare it yet that they *will*
>like. We had a thread recently about picky eaters.

Well, we were recently in Poland, and, of course, they eat a lot of
beetroot, and beetroot-related products there.  Now, I have tried
beetroot in many different ways, and disliked all of them.  People used
to tell me that it was merely pickled beetroot I disliked, and give it
to me as a hot vegetable, sauteed with onions, or in a recipe of my
grandmothers, where it was jellied.  But to no avail - I simply didn't
like the taste.  Last week, when I ordered a meal that came with salad,
part of it was grated beetroot with dressing.  I hadn't tried beetroot
prepared like that before, but had a mouthful or two - no good, it still
tasted like beetroot!  Now, my husband, who also dislikes pickled
beetroot, had never tried it prepared any other way, and he took a
mouthful of my salad, and loved it!  So he ate it, all the while
pondering aloud why he liked it when he dislikes pickled beetroot but
likes many other sorts of pickle.....

>All that being said, I'm still searching for a way to prepare oysters
>that I'll enjoy. (not that I'll ever spend the money on them <g>)

Me neither!  If I want a mouthful of salty snot that will probably make
me vomit, I'll go and swim in the sea.....  I can eat tinned tuna, by
the way, it's just not something I choose to eat very often.  And,
sadly, the oily fish that are so good for us are *not* good for my
digestion, except salmon and trout (and I have to be a bit careful with
them).  If I eat sardines or mackerel or pilchards, I suffer.
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janice - 11 Aug 2004 20:46 GMT
 When I
>hear someone say "But I don't like <insert least favorite food here>.",
>I just think they haven't found a way to prepare it yet that they *will*
>like. We had a thread recently about picky eaters.

OK Laurie...here's a challenge.  Show me a way of serving up black
pudding that doesn't make me puke:)

>All that being said, I'm still searching for a way to prepare oysters
>that I'll enjoy. (not that I'll ever spend the money on them <g>)

I don't like oysters, either.  In fact, I realised some time ago that
nearly all my food dislikes (and there aren't many of these) are far
more to do with texture than with flavour - avocado, ocra, to name
two.

And yet, I like tripe - go figure:)

janice
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SnugBear - 11 Aug 2004 21:24 GMT
> OK Laurie...here's a challenge.  Show me a way of serving up black
> pudding that doesn't make me puke:)

Ok, I've looked it up and while the *idea* doesn't thrill me, I'm curious
what it tastes like.  Let me ask you - is black pudding good for you as
diet food goes?  Most sausage type foods are full of things we generally
avoid.  I could probably make hash out of it with lots of garlic, onions,
celery, carrots and such.  Then I'd throw horseradish on it.

To be honest Janice, during our two vacations to the UK (which I
absolutely loved), my least favorite aspect was the food.  Perhaps it was
just the places we went but ultimately we gave up and started eating at
any Chinese restaurant or American fast food we could find. Everything
was very bland to me.  There was a lot of comfort to find out the pan
pizza at Pizza Hut in London was the same as Laurel Maryland <g>

> I don't like oysters, either.  In fact, I realised some time ago that
> nearly all my food dislikes (and there aren't many of these) are far
> more to do with texture than with flavour - avocado, ocra, to name
> two.
>
> And yet, I like tripe - go figure:)

My husband has texture problems - won't eat peanutbutter and banana.  
What's wrong with him? ;-)

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janice - 11 Aug 2004 21:47 GMT
>> OK Laurie...here's a challenge.  Show me a way of serving up black
>> pudding that doesn't make me puke:)
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>avoid.  I could probably make hash out of it with lots of garlic, onions,
>celery, carrots and such.  Then I'd throw horseradish on it.

I don't think it's particularly good for you - it's quite high in
calories, but it does contain dried blood which of couse means iron.
It has a sort of grainy taste and is quite strong and rich.  I have no
wish to add it to my WOE.  And I hate horseradish (I don't like
anything remotely spicy, can just about tolerate the very mildest of
curry flavouring).

>To be honest Janice, during our two vacations to the UK (which I
>absolutely loved), my least favorite aspect was the food.  Perhaps it was
>just the places we went but ultimately we gave up and started eating at
>any Chinese restaurant or American fast food we could find. Everything
>was very bland to me.  There was a lot of comfort to find out the pan
>pizza at Pizza Hut in London was the same as Laurel Maryland <g>

I'm sorry to hear you didn't like our food, but glad you liked the
country.   We don't really have a national cuisine here, and living as
I do in London I guess I've got thoroughly used to a cosmopolitan diet
and don't think too much about it.  We do have some really good places
to eat out, but I guess it's like everywhere, you have to get to know
a city for a while before you find them and the stuff they serve up in
the centre tends to be bland and just aimed at getting people's money
without worrying about whether they enjoy the experience!  I enjoyed
eating out when I visited the US (once we'd recovered from the shock
of the portion sizes) - you seem to know how to make visiting a
restaurant a slightly more pleasurable experience.  I think there's
still a side to the British that says it's not quite nice to be seen
to enjoy your food too much, but things are changing.

>> I don't like oysters, either.  In fact, I realised some time ago that
>> nearly all my food dislikes (and there aren't many of these) are far
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>My husband has texture problems - won't eat peanutbutter and banana.  
>What's wrong with him? ;-)

Now that is weird:)  They're actually very nice together, in a
sandwich.

janice.
SnugBear - 12 Aug 2004 02:12 GMT
> I don't think it's particularly good for you - it's quite high in
> calories, but it does contain dried blood which of couse means iron.
> It has a sort of grainy taste and is quite strong and rich.  I have no
> wish to add it to my WOE.  And I hate horseradish (I don't like
> anything remotely spicy, can just about tolerate the very mildest of
> curry flavouring).

Then why do we want to eat black pudding again? :-)

As I've gotten older I love more spicy food.  I've always thought we
needed to kill off a certain percentage of our taste buds before
appreciating strongly flavored foods <g>

I was a strange kid though.  I always loved mincemeat pie.

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JMA - 12 Aug 2004 02:29 GMT
>> I don't think it's particularly good for you - it's quite high in
>> calories, but it does contain dried blood which of couse means iron.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> needed to kill off a certain percentage of our taste buds before
> appreciating strongly flavored foods <g>

I was once told that was the reason why elderly people tend to eat more
candy as they age but yet I hardly know any older folks who eat candy.  Go
figure.

Remember though as your taste buds accept more spicy foods, sometimes the
guts care for it less.

Jenn
Annabel Smyth - 12 Aug 2004 11:15 GMT
>I was once told that was the reason why elderly people tend to eat more
>candy as they age but yet I hardly know any older folks who eat candy.  Go
>figure.

My father has just about lived on chocolate for the last ten years, as
it's one of the few things he can digest easily (he has had most of his
stomach removed).  My mother eats chocolate far more now than she did
when we were younger, when she tried to teach us that a sweet tooth was
unacceptable.  She doesn't eat as much as she would like, though,
because of weight gain....
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Beverly - 12 Aug 2004 02:39 GMT
> > I don't think it's particularly good for you - it's quite high in
> > calories, but it does contain dried blood which of couse means iron.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> I was a strange kid though.  I always loved mincemeat pie.

I loved mincemeat pie when I was a kid!  I haven't had it in years.

I probably ate many foods that most kids wouldn't touch - beef and chicken
livers, mashed potatoes with creamed corn or sauerkraut instead of gravy,
etc.

Beverly
janice - 12 Aug 2004 07:10 GMT
>I loved mincemeat pie when I was a kid!  I haven't had it in years.

Sorry for yet another "culture" question - but by mincemeat pie, do
you mean what we call mincemeat, which is mixed fruits and spices etc.
often with brandy too, and eaten mostly at Christmas, or do you mean
what we call minced meat - usually called just "mince" when we mean
specifically beef?  Perhaps this isn't what you mean as you call it
ground meat, an expression we just don't have here.

If you mean the fruity mince, then mince pies (and to some extent
mincemeat tart) are quite popular here - available all the year but
very much part of Christmas fare.  I've always adored this, even as a
child, and it's one of my favourite things even now (I try to avoid it
most of the year for obvious reasons).

janice
Beverly - 12 Aug 2004 13:27 GMT
> >I loved mincemeat pie when I was a kid!  I haven't had it in years.
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> janice

It's the pie.  They aren't real popular here :(

Beverly
SnugBear - 13 Aug 2004 02:30 GMT
> It's the pie.  They aren't real popular here :(

Right - the fruit, raisins, spices - my mom always added extra apples -
yumm.  Cross & Blackwell, Nonesuch.  The jarred or dehydrated filling is
sold almost exclusively for Thanksgiving / Christmas and some stores -
even big ones - are not carrying it at all.  I'm hoarding some
dehydrated.  Since my husband much prefers pumpkin pie, I make a 5 inch
mincemeat pie to have all to myself for Thanksgiving.  I make it last for
days.  I've been known to put leftover filling in oatmeal <g>

Thank goodness I have a great recipe for green tomato mincemeat. Fyi, I
hear it's traditional for Mainers to make their own with deermeat.

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Annabel Smyth - 12 Aug 2004 11:13 GMT
> And I hate horseradish (I don't like
>anything remotely spicy, can just about tolerate the very mildest of
>curry flavouring).

I like most spicy foods, but horseradish is not one of them.  Imagine my
horror when I picked up what I thought was cottage cheese with chopped
vegetables in Poland to find that it was cottage cheese flavoured with
horseradish.  It was VILE!
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Annabel Smyth - 12 Aug 2004 11:12 GMT
>> OK Laurie...here's a challenge.  Show me a way of serving up black
>> pudding that doesn't make me puke:)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>avoid.  I could probably make hash out of it with lots of garlic, onions,
>celery, carrots and such.  Then I'd throw horseradish on it.

It isn't very good for you, but you usually only eat 1 or 2 slices,
fried, as part of a "Full English" breakfast when you go to a B&B.  I
like it - but when I tried to eat a whole blood sausage in Poland, I
found I couldn't finish it.

>To be honest Janice, during our two vacations to the UK (which I
>absolutely loved), my least favorite aspect was the food.  Perhaps it was
>just the places we went but ultimately we gave up and started eating at
>any Chinese restaurant or American fast food we could find. Everything
>was very bland to me.  There was a lot of comfort to find out the pan
>pizza at Pizza Hut in London was the same as Laurel Maryland <g>

I don't know where you can have eaten..... after all, our national dish
is Chicken Tikka Marsala, apparently!

Seriously, though, I have American house-guests coming this weekend, and
propose giving them such food as baked trout with white wine and/or
roasted pepper sauce, with fresh potatoes, carrots and cauliflower,
followed by home-made blackberry/raspberry parfait with either
blackberry or raspberry liqueur poured over; tortilla made with
left-over vegetables, plus salad, probably followed by home-made
lavender sorbet; white fish with ratatouille and some kind of
carbohydrate to be determined, probably brown rice, followed by bought
cherry pie since there's some in the fridge; and perhaps we will go out
for Sunday lunch, we'll see.  Or else I'll make something like a
vegetarian tartiflette au reblochon with salad.....  I hope they don't
find it too bland!

>My husband has texture problems - won't eat peanutbutter and banana.
>What's wrong with him? ;-)

Daughter used to refuse mushrooms on the ground of texture, but she
loves them now.
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SnugBear - 11 Aug 2004 14:17 GMT
> Yesterday for lunch I had a Tuna "Waldorf" salad:
> drained 1 can of tuna, chopped a small apple, added 1
> tbs Italian dressing, 1 tbs mayo. Mixed together, added
> s&p, sprinkled on "Salad Toppings" and it was
> delicious. Well, as delicious as canned tuna gets,
> anyway.

Sounds wonderful Amy - I'll try that. A can of tuna is sort of like a
blank canvas, isn't it?

Discovering new ways to eat food that's *good* for me has been one of the
most liberating aspects of changing my WOE.  Ideas are always
appreciated.

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jamie - 09 Aug 2004 20:22 GMT
> I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
> posts?

Some people find it easier to stay on track when they post these
things.  There's no requirement to do so.

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Heywood Mogroot - 10 Aug 2004 01:09 GMT
> I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
> posts?

arguing all the time is boring. It's useful to share what we're doing
and how it's working.
MJC - 10 Aug 2004 01:12 GMT
> > I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> > What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
> > posts?
>
> arguing all the time is boring. It's useful to share what we're doing
> and how it's working.

Arguing?
Heywood Mogroot - 10 Aug 2004 05:26 GMT
> > "MJC" <MJMC123@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:<NePRc.17770$Jp6.3007@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
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>
> Arguing?

well, this *is* usenet...
Doug Freyburger - 10 Aug 2004 19:41 GMT
> I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
> posts?

If you have no good examples of your own to follow, they give you one.
If you don't even know where to start, they will give you direction.

More than just setting a good example to keep themselves in better
control, the postings are a public contribution.
.@.com - 11 Aug 2004 05:07 GMT
>I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
>What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
>posts?
>
>MJ

To bore people on the group.
Carol Frilegh - 11 Aug 2004 11:34 GMT
> >I really am not tring to get somthing started but I do have a question.
> >What is the reason for the daily "food and exercise" and "weekly update"
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> To bore people on the group.
Some people do better "vocalizing" their menus and progress publicly to
be accountable to themselves. Several here have frequently relied on
this technique to get back on track.

Last time I checked this was a support group and I say "whatever floats
your boat" It doesn't take a rocket scientist to skip posts that don't
look appetizing. How do you

BTW: Deal with all the porn link posts?  I haven't seen you complain
about those:-)

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