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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / August 2004My daily intake
Now that I've lost my weight, I have a daily routine that seems to have been keeping it off for the last couple of years. This is for "most" days: Morning: 1/2 cup cereal (total or wheaties) with 1/2 cup 1% milk Afternoon: Granola bar or other "energy" bar Evening: Something different each day like - Pasta Beef chicken fish One of the above with some type of veggie. Small portions. Each piece of meat/fish is approx 3-4" in diameter max. About 1/2 cup of veggie. Pasta will usually be closer to 2 cups when I have it. When I splurge (once every other week or so) it's something like this: Morning: Pancakes or waffles or 2 fried eggs on toast Afternoon: Pizza or grilled burger/hotdog or chicken Evening: Fried seafood or chicken or burger or pasta, and oh yea - beer! All portions are smaller than you'd get in any average restaurant. That's the key, after all. All beverages are either water (most of the time) or 1% milk unless noted otherwise. Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004: >Evening: >Something different each day like - [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >meat/fish is approx 3-4" in diameter max. About 1/2 cup of veggie. Pasta >will usually be closer to 2 cups when I have it. You keep saying "pasta", but what do you have *on* the pasta? I mean, I don't suppose you eat plain boiled spaghetti or macaroni, and there are a multitude of different sauces to eat with it, from the heavy cream sauces that I am currently reserving for treats, to an almost totally vegetable sauce. It strikes me that you eat extraordinarily little - but if it works for you and you have plenty of energy.....  SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg >Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >sauces that I am currently reserving for treats, to an almost totally >vegetable sauce. Very lightly coated with margarine just to lube it up. Less than a teaspoon. Sometimes a dash of salt too to give it flavor. >It strikes me that you eat extraordinarily little - but if it works for >you and you have plenty of energy..... That's plenty of food for me since I do not have an exercise regimen that I follow. My exercise consists of whatever daily activities require me to get off my duff! Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >Very lightly coated with margarine just to lube it up. Less than a teaspoon. >Sometimes a dash of salt too to give it flavor. Really? Then what sort of (a) protein or (b) vegetables do you have with that. I would - do - find it very difficult to eat without a sauce of some kind, even if that is made up of that evening's vegetables. SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg >Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Really? Then what sort of (a) protein or (b) vegetables do you have >with that. None. When I eat pasta, I eat more than a normal portion so that's all I eat. >I would - do - find it very difficult to eat without a sauce >of some kind, even if that is made up of that evening's vegetables. I've tried "veggie sauces" and they are repulsive to me. Meat sauce or no sauce. Most of the time I choose none. I'm not following any "recommended" food guide lines here by making sure I get the right amount of this or that on a daily basis. Most of that is bunk anyway. Calorie intake and a slight variety is all that is needed. I've proven it by doing it. > I'm not following any "recommended" food guide lines here by making > sure I get the right amount of this or that on a daily basis. Most > of that is bunk anyway. Calorie intake and a slight variety is all > that is needed. I've proven it by doing it. Mark, how much weight have you lost and how long have you maintained your loss? (if you are done losing)? Thanks. i >> I'm not following any "recommended" food guide lines here by making >> sure I get the right amount of this or that on a daily basis. Most [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Mark, how much weight have you lost and how long have you maintained >your loss? (if you are done losing)? Thanks. A tad over 60lbs was lost and I'm just recently at my desired weight (about 3-4 months ago). I can't see this being an issue because the foods I've listed is just the way I eat now. It's not like I'm still on a "diet". I just eat smaller amounts that are better for me and I'm going to keep doing it. >>> I'm not following any "recommended" food guide lines here by making >>> sure I get the right amount of this or that on a daily basis. Most [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I eat now. It's not like I'm still on a "diet". I just eat smaller amounts > that are better for me and I'm going to keep doing it. Very impressive results. Do you find it easy to limit how much you eat? Do you think much about food? I had a history similar to yours, 50 lbs lost by eating less and not eating sweets and exercising. i >>>> I'm not following any "recommended" food guide lines here by making >>>> sure I get the right amount of this or that on a daily basis. Most [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Very impressive results. Do you find it easy to limit how much you >eat? Now that I am in a routine, it's not even a thought. I make my meals a certain size and that's it. When it's gone it's gone. When I first decided to drop the weight, I limited my intake to about 1000 calories a day. That sucked big for the first two weeks. Not so much the hunger pains, but I got some ugly headaches. I took a lot of Tylenol during that time. But after that, you'd be surprised how it just goes away. I found drinking lots of water to be helpful when I started getting hungry between meals. You can add things like lemon or lime to the water to give it a little flavor. I still drink lots of water. >Do you think much about food? At first, yea. I always felt hungry and always wanted to eat. But when you've actually made the decision to lose the weight, you stick to the plan. Now, I don't think about food until it starts getting close to meal time. >I had a history similar to yours, >50 lbs lost by eating less and not eating sweets and exercising. I never exercised and still don't. I know that's probably not a good idea, but I lost the weight just by cutting back on junk and eating "normal" foods at "normal" quantities. I can see how it would be so easy to just abandon a diet after a week or to even cheat through a diet all the time and then give up. That's for someone who was never truly serious about it in the first place. I have friends who seem to always be on a diet yet they never lose the weight. It's one excuse after another with them - but hey, it's their choice and I'm not going to give them crap about it. If the day comes when they are truly serious about losing the weight, they'll get serious about dieting and stop the cheating. After all, when someone cheats on a diet who do they think they're fooling? Themselves? It takes time, effort and dedication to lose weight. I am very impressed with your real accomplishment. i >>>>> I'm not following any "recommended" food guide lines here by making >>>>> sure I get the right amount of this or that on a daily basis. Most [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > all, when someone cheats on a diet who do they think they're fooling? > Themselves? It takes time, effort and dedication to lose weight. Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >>Really? Then what sort of (a) protein or (b) vegetables do you have >>with that. > >None. When I eat pasta, I eat more than a normal portion so that's all I eat. Fair enough; I shouldn't care for it, but I'm not you! SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg >Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >with that. I would - do - find it very difficult to eat without a sauce >of some kind, even if that is made up of that evening's vegetables. That's what I like about couscous. OK, I know it's not pasta, but if you eat it with a mountain of mixed fresh veg with a little stock poured over, it doesn't need any sort of rich or fatty sauce with it. I do like pasta with just veggies, too, though. janice >>Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >poured over, it doesn't need any sort of rich or fatty sauce with it. >I do like pasta with just veggies, too, though. Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like "mountain of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you can't eat mountains of anything when dieting. >>That's what I like about couscous. OK, I know it's not pasta, but if >>you eat it with a mountain of mixed fresh veg with a little stock [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you >can't eat mountains of anything when dieting. I'm sorry but I disagree. I never cut back on vegetables, other than a few calorie dense ones, when I'm dieting and this has never affected my ability to lose weight. With my evening meal I eat perhaps half a cauliflower or cabbage, plus swede, turnips etc. in addition to a main protein dish. This works for me, and I have no intention of changing my quantities. janice 233/179/133 > >>That's what I like about couscous. OK, I know it's not pasta, but if > >>you eat it with a mountain of mixed fresh veg with a little stock [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > janice > 233/179/133 I agree 100%. Increasing vegetables and limiting other higher calorie foods is a great way to lose weight. >> >>That's what I like about couscous. OK, I know it's not pasta, but if >> >>you eat it with a mountain of mixed fresh veg with a little stock [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >I agree 100%. Increasing vegetables and limiting other higher calorie foods >is a great way to lose weight. Thank you Beverly. I'm glad someone else agrees with me. I love my veg - plenty of fibre and satiety value, with few calories. janice > Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like "mountain > of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you > can't eat mountains of anything when dieting. Vegetables (excluding corn, potatoes or other starchy vegetables) are unlimited on my food plan, which has worked very well for me. Mary 325-154-148 >> Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like "mountain >> of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Mary >325-154-148 Well, if it worked for you Mary it's good enough for me. I'm glad I know enough about dieting and food intake to not listen to some of the daft advice that gets handed out here. It's exactly things like potatoes (which I rarely eat) and corn (which I weigh carefully) that I don't include in my mountain. janice Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >Change your quantities. If you are dieting and using phrases like "mountain >of mixed fresh veg", then you need to cut back. Sorry to be so blunt, but you >can't eat mountains of anything when dieting. You can when it's vegetables; I was looking at the pack of salad I had half of last night, and the nutrition information tells me that 100 grammes contains 18 kcal. Now, I had less than that - half of a 160g pack, so 80 g - and I can assure you, that was a mountain of mixed fresh vegetables! SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg >Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >pack, so 80 g - and I can assure you, that was a mountain of mixed fresh >vegetables! I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables. I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing about me. janice 233/179/133 > >Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > janice > 233/179/133 On the Weight Watchers program most vegetables are 0 points<g >>Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not > weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables. Maybe you and me are both weird, I also eat large quantities of whatever low can vegetables fancy me at the moment. i Janice, I agree. Some calories just aren't worth adding up. Lettuce, cucumber and tomato in any reasonable quantities don't amount to much. I soak mine in vinegar and mustard. I'm on an extremely low calorie diet, and it's working well for me. Lazy 223/210/175 >> Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > janice > 233/179/133 -- > Janice, I agree. Some calories just aren't worth adding up. Lettuce, > cucumber and tomato in any reasonable quantities don't amount to much. I > soak mine in vinegar and mustard. > > I'm on an extremely low calorie diet, and it's working well for me. Just how low? io > Lazy > 223/210/175 [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> janice >> 233/179/133 Ig, I'm working with a clinical nutritionist who wants me to do 800 kcals for a while, but I cheat; I'm often in the 300-600 range. Lazy >> Janice, I agree. Some calories just aren't worth adding up. Lettuce, >> cucumber and tomato in any reasonable quantities don't amount to much. I [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >>> janice >>> 233/179/133 -- > Ig, > > I'm working with a clinical nutritionist who wants me to do 800 kcals for a > while, but I cheat; I'm often in the 300-600 range. Impressive... I don't think that I could manage that. Might be hard to hold on to your weight loss though. i janice wrote in alt.support.diet on Fri, 20 Aug 2004: >I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not >weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables. > >I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing >about me. Quite. Or, seemingly, about nutrition! SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg >>Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > janice > 233/179/133 I also know nothing about you but when I read the "mountain of mixed fresh veg" it got my attention. Not because of the calories or point values but simply quantity. I believe and many others disagree, the key to any long-term weight strategy is portion control. Under that belief, eventually one has to learn to eat less. A habit if you will. Although these veggies are low in calories, eating large portions of anything will be slowing progress or putting off the goal of smaller quantity type eating. Again, it’s not the veggies that hurt, it’s the notion that one needs to eat large quantities of anything to fill up or defeat hunger. Just my opinion, agree or delete. 185/140/155/160 > > I've been very gratified to see from some of the posts that I'm not > > weird in eating unlimited amounts of low calorie vegetables. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Just my opinion, agree or delete. I've never felt that it was necessary to aim to reduce my portion size for the sake of it - just to learn to eat smaller portions of some foods, particularly the calorie dense ones. But for me, the other side to this is eating bigger portions of foods that are relatively low in calories but provide fibre and high satiety value for the calories involved. When I'm in binge mode, vegetables are the first thing to get pushed out of my diet - they don't leave enough room for my favourite binge foods! But when I'm sticking with my WOE, they help me to feel satisfied, as well as being healthy. Same as I try to eat my fruit with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this helps me. janice 233/179/133 > Same as I try to eat my fruit > with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or > bananas of course) - to provide higher satiety value. I find this > helps me. Speaking of peel: I was wondering tonight if it would be better to leave the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and the fruits you mentioned long ago. SignatureWalking (but mostly biking!) on . . . Laurie in Maine 207/110 60 inches of attitude! Start: 2/02 Maintained since 2/03 >> Same as I try to eat my fruit >> with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and > the fruits you mentioned long ago. I find cucumber peels to be bitter sometimes. If I get them from the farmstand I leave them on, if I get them from the store, I peel them. Or, I do the fancy peeling and make stripes if I'm having company :) Jenn >> Same as I try to eat my fruit >> with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and >the fruits you mentioned long ago. I don't know if it's better, but I'm pretty sure it's harmless. I've always left the peel on cucumbers. I like the added crunch. Chris >> Same as I try to eat my fruit >> with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and >the fruits you mentioned long ago. I don't know - I always do. Peeled cucumber makes me think of dainty sandwiches at an afternoon tea party, with the crusts cut off the bread. The only thing is that some people find the peel of cucumber makes it a bit bitter. janice > The only thing is that some people find the peel of cucumber makes it > a bit bitter. I don't peel the cucumber if it's grown in a non-commercial garden. But the cucumbers I see in grocery stores are covered and sprayed with so many layers of wax it makes it unpalatable to eat. SnugBear wrote in alt.support.diet on Sun, 22 Aug 2004: >> Same as I try to eat my fruit >> with the peel on (well, things like apples and pears, not oranges or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the peel on cucumbers for salad? I stopped peeling potatoes, carrots and >the fruits you mentioned long ago. Cucumber is meant to be less indigestible if you leave the peel on, which seems counter-intuitive, but there you are.... SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg >>Mark wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >I do object to being told how to eat by someone who knows nothing >about me. Ignore him, Janice. His statement was downright silly. Vegetables are great for you and a great way to fill up. There's nothing noble about going hungry. The thing is to learn to eat as much good food as you need to be satisfied, and vegetables are high on the list of good foods. No doubt one could theoretically overdo even vegetables, but it would be tough! Chris 262/141/ (145-150) janice wrote in alt.support.diet on Thu, 19 Aug 2004: >That's what I like about couscous. OK, I know it's not pasta, Actually, I believe it counts as pasta, being more like semolina than anything else. > but if >you eat it with a mountain of mixed fresh veg with a little stock >poured over, it doesn't need any sort of rich or fatty sauce with it. Indeed no! And lots and lots of harissa..... I never know quite what to do for protein, though, as if I just have couscous & veg, I get hungry. I suppose a little grilled or poached chicken? >I do like pasta with just veggies, too, though. Me too, but I tend to sprinkle grated cheese on top. SignatureAnnabel - "Mrs Redboots" 90/88/80kg |
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