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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / August 2004The new goal has been set
A friend of mine observed that I am serious about losing weight and doing a very proper workout routine. She asked me to join her and another friend in training for a mini-triathlon. They are both as skinny as possible. It will be an enormous boost for my physical fitness, so I said yes. I enjoy swimming, and am actually not a bad long distance swimmer, same goes for biking. However, running has never been my thing. Nevertheless, I want to make this work. Anyone has tips on how to work on a running routine? My problem is twofold. First off I have bad knees (which I am working on by strengthening my upper thighs doing weights). But second I usually start to see black spots about 5 minutes into the run, even if I take it easy and am physically fit. It feels like I overheat and I look red like a tomato. Walking at any pace is fine, running is not... Clues?  Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 195 - 180 > A friend of mine observed that I am serious about losing weight and doing > a very proper workout routine. She asked me to join her and another friend [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and am physically fit. It feels like I overheat and I look red like a > tomato. Walking at any pace is fine, running is not... Clues? my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have artificial knees. Also, taking glucosamine helps with osteoarthritis (deterioraion of the cartilage in knee joints). Also, practicing aerobic workouts helps with endurance etc. I would not run together with people who are much better runners than me. i > my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least > without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have > artificial knees. At the moment I don't have pain and haven't had for years. As I just described in my answer to Jenn, my kneecap is drawn to the outside of my joint, and under duration stress will wear out the cartilage. In the past I've had very good results with training the muscles on the upper/inner sides of my thighs to correct for this. > Also, taking glucosamine helps with osteoarthritis (deterioraion of > the cartilage in knee joints). I'll keep that in mind, but I'd rather not take anything. If it turns out the running will not work for me, I'll stick to the swimming and biking. > I would not run together with people who are much better runners than > me. I know my friend is a good runner, but another friend will join us too and for her I have no clue. For the most part we'll have to train by ourselves anyway, as our working schedules do not allow us to meet daily. Thanks for the tips! Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 193 - 180 > > my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least > > without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I've had very good results with training the muscles on the upper/inner > sides of my thighs to correct for this. Would some type of elastic knee brace help keep the kneecap in a better position? I tried running a few years ago and used one when my knee started giving me problems. It certainly helped to alleviate the nagging pain and kept my knee warm in the cold weather, too<g> Beverly > > Also, taking glucosamine helps with osteoarthritis (deterioraion of > > the cartilage in knee joints). [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Thanks for the tips! > Would some type of elastic knee brace help keep the kneecap in a better > position? I tried running a few years ago and used one when my knee started > giving me problems. It certainly helped to alleviate the nagging pain and > kept my knee warm in the cold weather, too<g> I have used things like that in the past, but without the training they didn't do much for me. I really need that muscle to be stronger first, if that's not enough, a brace is certainly an option. Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 193 - 180 >> my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least >> without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Thanks for the tips! At least be careful and listen to your body... Running with acute knee pain is not recommended... i > At least be careful and listen to your body... Running with acute knee > pain is not recommended... Hehe, I know. Thankfully, I'm generally quite well in tune with my body and know my limits very well. Mainly learned through bad experience, so I definitely know where I do *not* want this to go :) Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 193 - 180 >> my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least >> without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Thanks for the tips! Don't avoid running with experienced or faster runners if they're willing to work at your pace. You'll find that they'll be able to help you learn more about breathing/cadence, etc. and I've found that I end up trying a little harder. I also am not too embarassed to say "hey this is too fast for me" and pull back. I'm doing it for *me* not to show off in front of others. Jenn > > my suggestion is to not run if you experience knee pain. At least > > without approval from some relevant doctor. I doubt you want to have [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Thanks for the tips! First off, that's nonsense. If I work out with others, I always try to make sure they're better than me, it helps me do better. Of course, if one is worried about their ego, then that's another story. Secondly, start out is very small dosages. Warm up with a brisk walk for 10 minutes, then run two blocks, walk two blocks, run two block, walk two blocks, repeat for 20 minutes or do. Do this for at least two months. Do not rush running. Also, check out www.runnersworld.com They'll give you great advice. Martha a former distance runner > Also, check out www.runnersworld.com They'll give you great advice. Thanks Martha, I will definitely have a look! Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 191 - 180 >A friend of mine observed that I am serious about losing weight and doing > a very proper workout routine. She asked me to join her and another friend [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and am physically fit. It feels like I overheat and I look red like a > tomato. Walking at any pace is fine, running is not... Clues? First of all, most mini-tri's have a 5K run which is only 3.1 miles (yea, *only*) and since you are doing this for the fun your only goal is to finish. Here's the plan I used to start running last year. I don't know how much time you have but this takes quite a bit of time. Do this 3-4x a week. week 1: run 1 minute/walk 4 minutes for a total of 30 minutes - btw don't sprint just go at a comfortable pace week 2: run 2 minutes/walk 3 minutes for 30 minutes week 3: run 3 minutes/walk 2 minutes for 30 minutes week 4: run 4 minutes/walk 1 minute for 30 minutes week 5: run 5 minutes/walk 1 minute for 30 minutes week 6: run 6 minutes/walk 1 minute for 30 minutes week 7: run 7 minutes/walk 1 minute for 30 minutes week 8: run 8 minutes/walk 1 minute for 30 minutes week 9: run 9 minutes/walk 1 minute for 30 minutes week 10: run 10 minutes - repeat 2x for a total of 30 minutes - apparently once you can run comfortably for 10 minutes, you can do 30. I was doing 30 minutes by week 6 or 7 but I didn't have knee trouble. If you have knee trouble you probably shouldn't run but if you insist, make sure you get shoes made for running. If you are overweight, get motion control shoes that will keep your feet hitting the ground properly. Don't run on pavement, try grass when possible or if there's a track in your area that's rubberized. Good luck with your mini-tri. I'd love to do one, but I'd drown in the swimming part :) Jenn Thanks for the excellent tips Jenn! That sounds like a schedule I can stick to. I've been working on my knees. The problem is that my kneecap is drawn to the outside, because the thigh muscles on that side are stronger. I've been training the opposite muscles for a few weeks now, and definitely start to notice an improvement. I also have a fully equipped athletics center across the street from my job, with indoor and outdoor track (oooh, the luxury!). > Good luck with your mini-tri. I'd love to do one, but I'd drown in the > swimming part :) Hehe, that's my strong part, always loved to swim... :) Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 193 - 180 > Thanks for the excellent tips Jenn! That sounds like a schedule I can > stick to. I've been working on my knees. The problem is that my kneecap is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > athletics center across the street from my job, with indoor and outdoor > track (oooh, the luxury!). You're lucky :) Our indoor track has crappy hours because it's at the high school. Anyway, think about the running shoe thing, it made a HUGE difference in the way my legs felt by getting a decent pair of motion control shoes. I spent about $100 for a pair which is steep for most people, but since they made running so much easier, I ended up putting a LOT of miles on them. They've now been retired to become my "screw" shoes for ice running - which I will take up this winter if I can start running again by Oct. Jenn > Anyway, think about the running shoe thing, it made a HUGE > difference in the way my legs felt by getting a decent pair of motion > control shoes. I'll definitely keep that in mind. I have a decent pair of running shoes at the moment, at least, I think I do. That's why I bought them last year. Never got around to actually using them for the purpose until now :) Signature-- Boemsi 207 - 193 - 180 |
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