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determined - 28 Oct 2003 18:27 GMT
I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was all
cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training - first
nautilus equipment, now free weights.

The things I learned that made me a fast believer in weightlifting are:

for every 3 lbs of fat I lose, I also lose a lb of muscle,
the secret to a faster metabolism is to increase muscle mass, since muscle
burns anywhere between 30-50 cal per day
and that while cardio burns calories during exercise, but muscle burns all
the time, baby!

I don't talk too much about my weightlifting here at asd, because it seems
like it is a foreign idea to alot of people here.  But let me tell you - in
the past 2 months, I've gained 10 lbs.  According to caliper tests every 3
weeks, 7.5 lbs is muscle and 2.5 lbs fat.  At 130 lbs, I am wearing a size
4-6 in pants, and the last time I weighed 130 I wore a size 8-10.  I have
learned to squat and deadlift, and while it's cool to be squatting, the
functional strength that has come with it is even way cooler!  I can carry
heavy boxes up stairs, keep up with my daughter, etc.

det
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 20:07 GMT
>I don't talk too much about my weightlifting here at asd, because it seems
>like it is a foreign idea to alot of people here.

It is not foreign to me but it is not a priority on my list right now.
Melissa - 29 Oct 2003 02:35 GMT
I do a weight workout 3-4 times per week on the ParaBody Gym we bought. I
also do cardio 3 times per week, 30 minutes of interval training on the
Stepper. Some moves are done with dumbbells as well.

I think weight bearing exercise is very important, especially for women of
per-menopausal age.  My bone density is fine right now, and at 44, I'd like
to keep it that way.

After 9 weeks of consistant exercise, I've not seen a huge weight loss, only
7 pounds or so, but I feel so much better.  I'm more flexible, I'm stronger,
my endurance has increased a good bit from when I started, and the weights I
can lift has also increased.  I do a routine of 2 sets of 12 reps on the
lifts I use. I have lost inches because my clothes are fitting better as
well.  The biggest gain is how much better I feel.

Melissa

> >I don't talk too much about my weightlifting here at asd, because it seems
> >like it is a foreign idea to alot of people here.
>
> It is not foreign to me but it is not a priority on my list right now.
Cox SMTP east - 28 Oct 2003 20:10 GMT
I do olympic style weight lifting.  I used to do all machines, but saw a
demo one day and thought "Wow, looks like fun"  When I heard Chris did it
too, she's around my age, I thought "OK sign me up"  I agree...one of the
weirdnesses of a lot of weight lifting, is your weight will not change, but
your size will.  Over the past two years, while I've picked up 15 lbs from
my all time low, my size dropped two more sizes up top (ouch) and one on the
bottom.  The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
working out (never to people in the gym...only to nonworker outers).
Getting stronger feels so great...now if it will only work on joints.
Elise.
> I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was all
> cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training - first
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>
> det
Wendy - 28 Oct 2003 20:13 GMT
> The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
> comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
> working out (never to people in the gym...only to nonworker outers).

I'm in your situation, Elise.  I'm a 39 year old Mom of 3 kids (12, 10 and
4) and active in my community, women's groups, volunteer boards, stuff
like that.  (I own a business that I operate from home.)  People don't
look at me and think, "I wonder if she can bench-press over 100 yet?"

In fact, when people ask me how I lost my weight I will tell them I
replaced half my cardio workouts with weightlifting and they don't know if
I'm joking or not.  One person asked if I meant those cute little colored
dumbbells and I said, "No, more like squatting with a 100 pound barbell
on my back."  He laughed at my sense of humor.  I didn't bother to point
out I wasn't joking.

Olympic lifts are pretty uncommon at my gym (and power-lifts are never
seen) but there's a "beginning weight-lifting" class held in the weight
room T/Th mornings and now T/Th evenings and the morning session is chock
full of seniors preventing osteoporosis.  Using the weightroom is becoming
a lot more main-stream at my Y because of this class.

Wendy
244/190/170
determined - 28 Oct 2003 21:48 GMT
> > The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
> > comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
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> like that.  (I own a business that I operate from home.)  People don't
> look at me and think, "I wonder if she can bench-press over 100 yet?"

Well, CAN you???
Wendy - 28 Oct 2003 22:31 GMT
>> I'm in your situation, Elise.  I'm a 39 year old Mom of 3 kids (12, 10 and
>> 4) and active in my community, women's groups, volunteer boards, stuff
>> like that.  (I own a business that I operate from home.)  People don't
>> look at me and think, "I wonder if she can bench-press over 100 yet?"

> Well, CAN you???

I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
me.  I can do four solid reps at 85 pounds, though, so my guess is my 1RM
is around 100.

But strangely, I don't have this conversation with anyone else but you
guys online.  :-)

Wendy
determined - 28 Oct 2003 23:53 GMT
> >> I'm in your situation, Elise.  I'm a 39 year old Mom of 3 kids (12, 10 and
> >> 4) and active in my community, women's groups, volunteer boards, stuff
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> But strangely, I don't have this conversation with anyone else but you
> guys online.  :-)

My bench is 65lbs, I've been doing 4-5 sets of 5.  I'm currently squatting
115lbs, also doing 4 sets of 5, and my dl is the same as my squat.  I
thought the dl was supposed to be your strongest lift, but so far not the
case for me.  I just wanna bench my weight, squat my weight x 1.5 and dl my
weight x 2.  Is that too much for a girl to ask for???

det
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 29 Oct 2003 16:09 GMT
>I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
>personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
>me.

Standard copout.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Wendy - 29 Oct 2003 15:53 GMT
>>I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
>>personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
>>me.

> Standard copout.

Yeah, this comes up at baby showers ALL the time.  I mean, the number of
middle-aged women whining about not benching over 100# is just astounding.

Wendy, all excuses, all the time

(Can you spot the tongue in cheek?)
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 29 Oct 2003 18:28 GMT
>>>I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
>>>personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
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>
>Yeah, this comes up at baby showers ALL the time.

What the hell does that mean?

>  I mean, the number of
>middle-aged women whining about not benching over 100# is just astounding.

Who said anything about a bunch of middle-aged women? I said you have
and continue to give this spotting and need-a-trainer excuse as if it
has validity. It doesn't. It's a copout and you know it.

>Wendy, all excuses, all the time

Pretty muck. Must be a Holyoke thing.

>(Can you spot the tongue in cheek?)

Nope.

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Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
SJ - 29 Oct 2003 21:47 GMT
>>>I'm in your situation, Elise.  I'm a 39 year old Mom of 3 kids (12, 10 and
>>>4) and active in my community, women's groups, volunteer boards, stuff
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> personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
> me.  

Does your gym have a power cage? I bench in the cage, no spotter needed.
And if you can't push yourself that's your own damn problem, you
pathetic lazy bitch.

> I can do four solid reps at 85 pounds, though, so my guess is my 1RM
> is around 100.

85 is my 6RM, and my 1RM is 100, so you're probably pretty close. But.
If you're not used to doing max doubles and singles, your RMs for those
may not match the projections.

> But strangely, I don't have this conversation with anyone else but you
> guys online.  :-)

Then you're hanging out in the wrong places.

> Wendy
Wendy - 29 Oct 2003 22:31 GMT
>> I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
>> personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
>> me.  

> Does your gym have a power cage? I bench in the cage, no spotter needed.
> And if you can't push yourself that's your own damn problem, you
> pathetic lazy bitch.

Ah, yes, the *other* thing no one ever discusses with me off-line: what a
pathetic lazy bitch I am.  Thanks, Geek-girl, I needed that.

Yes, my gym has a power cage.  Yes, I could haul a bench over to it.  (And
kick out the guys doing bicep curls in the mirror.)  But I've had a lack
of motivation, i.e., I've idly wondered what my 1RM is but haven't had any
particular need to find out and I've always got a workout routine planned
that doesn't involve doing a 1RM.  It's not that I can't, it's that I
haven't needed to.  I'm not pushing for anything right now.

Wendy
SJ - 29 Oct 2003 23:46 GMT
>>>I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
>>>personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
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> Ah, yes, the *other* thing no one ever discusses with me off-line: what a
> pathetic lazy bitch I am.  

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

> Thanks, Geek-girl, I needed that.

Yes dear, that was obvious.

> Yes, my gym has a power cage.  Yes, I could haul a bench over to it.  (And
> kick out the guys doing bicep curls in the mirror.)  But I've had a lack
> of motivation, i.e., I've idly wondered what my 1RM is but haven't had any
> particular need to find out and I've always got a workout routine planned
> that doesn't involve doing a 1RM.  It's not that I can't, it's that I
> haven't needed to.  I'm not pushing for anything right now.

Mmkay, it's just that recently you were asking about how to test 1RMs,
so I thought maybe you were curious. But whatever, if it's not important
to you, don't worry about it.

However, if you are interested, there's a program that'll get you used
to working with heavier weights and lower reps, and work you up to
testing your 1RMs in 10 weeks. I'm just finishing up my first cycle with
it, and it's been fun. Have you heard the Thibaudeau thingy mentioned in
mfw? That's what I'm talking about.

> Wendy
Wendy - 30 Oct 2003 19:49 GMT
> Mmkay, it's just that recently you were asking about how to test 1RMs,
> so I thought maybe you were curious. But whatever, if it's not important
> to you, don't worry about it.

It's a long-term plan that is rapidly approaching a short-term plan, i.e.,
I've been planning on doing HST this tax season.  I'm doing my fourth BFL
challenge right now and have my workouts planned through November, then
I'm taking a training break in December.  Somewhere before January
I need to figure out my maxes for HST.

> However, if you are interested, there's a program that'll get you used
> to working with heavier weights and lower reps, and work you up to
> testing your 1RMs in 10 weeks. I'm just finishing up my first cycle with
> it, and it's been fun. Have you heard the Thibaudeau thingy mentioned in
> mfw? That's what I'm talking about.

It takes 10 weeks to figure out maxes?  I'd better look this Thibaudeau
thing up.  Thanks for the heads up.

By the way, I got an exciting "Certificate of Achievement" from
the Body for Life people:  the letter says I *could* be one of the 38 2003
champions.  (Yeah, with a sex change, since half the champions are
men.)  Too bad I don't have a personal trainer, I coulda been a contendah.

Wendy, (about to finish her most winning challenge yet)
SJ - 30 Oct 2003 20:54 GMT
>>Mmkay, it's just that recently you were asking about how to test 1RMs,
>>so I thought maybe you were curious. But whatever, if it's not important
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> I'm taking a training break in December.  Somewhere before January
> I need to figure out my maxes for HST.

Ahh, ok. But you don't really need 1RMs for HST.

>>However, if you are interested, there's a program that'll get you used
>>to working with heavier weights and lower reps, and work you up to
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> It takes 10 weeks to figure out maxes?  

Not exactly, but it works you up to 1RMs over 10 weeks. For the first 8
weeks you do 3RMs and 6RMs (and light work for speed), and then the last
2 weeks are 2RMs and 1RMs. IOW you don't really need to know them for
the beginning of it, but you get to test them at the end.

> I'd better look this Thibaudeau
> thing up.  Thanks for the heads up.

Here ya go.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010219221918/http://www.ironmag.com/ct_canadian_nap
rt.html


> By the way, I got an exciting "Certificate of Achievement" from
> the Body for Life people:  the letter says I *could* be one of the 38 2003
> champions.  (Yeah, with a sex change, since half the champions are
> men.)  Too bad I don't have a personal trainer, I coulda been a contendah.

You really don't need a trainer. Really. The only reason I ever needed a
trainer (or a monkey who passed for one) was that I had serious form
issues due to my screwed ankle. I got all of that straightened out, and
now I don't need him anymore. I thought I did, but I don't.

> Wendy, (about to finish her most winning challenge yet)
determined - 30 Oct 2003 00:23 GMT
> >> I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring a
> >> personal trainer is that I don't have anyone to either push me or spot
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> Ah, yes, the *other* thing no one ever discusses with me off-line: what a
> pathetic lazy bitch I am.  Thanks, Geek-girl, I needed that.

Yes Wendy, you really need to do something about that laziness problem you
have.  Goodness, the way you've been lazing around in the last year!

Of course, those of us who actually know Wendy know she is anything but
lazy.

det
SJ - 30 Oct 2003 17:37 GMT
>>>>I don't know.  I wonder that myself.  One of the problems of not hiring
>
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>
> det

You stupid bitch, I've been messing with Wendy for well over a year now,
and at this point *she* knows when I'm kidding. You obviously don't, and
you should probably keep your annoying little nose out of something
that's none of your business and that you don't understand. And BTW I
think you're just jealous because I bench more than you do.
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 30 Oct 2003 17:49 GMT
>> Of course, those of us who actually know Wendy know she is anything but
>> lazy.
>>
>> det

>You stupid bitch,

Yes, that about sums up Itsy Bitsy.

>I've been messing with Wendy for well over a year now,
>and at this point *she* knows when I'm kidding. You obviously don't, and
>you should probably keep your annoying little nose out of something
>that's none of your business and that you don't understand. And BTW I
>think you're just jealous because I bench more than you do.

No, it's more about that fact that you attract men and all she gets is
leftovers from her work...who dump her.

Why do they dump her?

See reference above to stupidity and bitch.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 30 Oct 2003 05:55 GMT
>Yes, my gym has a power cage.  Yes, I could haul a bench over to it.  (And
>kick out the guys doing bicep curls in the mirror.)  But I've had a lack
>of motivation,

Told you that you were copping out.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
determined - 28 Oct 2003 20:22 GMT
> I do olympic style weight lifting.  I used to do all machines, but saw a
> demo one day and thought "Wow, looks like fun"  When I heard Chris did it
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> Getting stronger feels so great...now if it will only work on joints.
> Elise.

My joints feel better - I find that I'm much more flexible too.

det
Chris Braun - 29 Oct 2003 02:47 GMT
> The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
> comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
> working out (never to people in the gym...only to nonworker outers).
> Getting stronger feels so great...now if it will only work on joints.

Ah, but it's fun shaking up the co-workers.  I have a couple of big
bench press trophies on my file cabinet -- and on my bulletin board a
used shooting target of a torso outline with the chest and head all
full of bullet holes.  Gives them pause :-) .

Chris
Ignoramus16911 - 29 Oct 2003 04:18 GMT
>> The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
>> comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
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> used shooting target of a torso outline with the chest and head all
> full of bullet holes.  Gives them pause :-) .

were the bullet holes spread through the torso or were they nicely
grouped?

i

> Chris
Chris Braun - 01 Nov 2003 14:49 GMT
>>> The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
>>> comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
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>were the bullet holes spread through the torso or were they nicely
>grouped?

The target has a circular area roughly in the center of the torso and
another in the head.  All the holes are in the circles :-).

I am not really an experienced shooter.  Tom, my gym trainer, used to
compete in shooting, and he has given me a few lessons.  The target
I'm describing was my best one -- and done at a distance of only
around 25 feet.

Chris
Ignoramus6944 - 01 Nov 2003 15:59 GMT
>>>> The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
>>>> comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> Chris

That's nice. I shoot okay, but not spectacularly well. Our nanny
however, is an accomplished former competition shooter. Five targets
in six second competitions, that sort of thing.

i
determined - 29 Oct 2003 16:26 GMT
> > The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
> > comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> used shooting target of a torso outline with the chest and head all
> full of bullet holes.  Gives them pause :-) .

Guess they know not to f*** with you!
Jennifer Austin - 30 Oct 2003 00:22 GMT
> > The only negative I can give to weight lifting is the weird
> > comments my co workers make and having to always defend my chosen way of
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Chris

I love that!  I can imagine what the co-workers think, but I bet they don't
mess with you.  I have a ceramic corked jar on my desk that says "Ashes of
Problem Students" and a broom.  The broom is part of an ongoing joke about
my being a witch.  I once told a class that if I find out someone's been
surfing for porn at school I would hop and my broom and drag them out of
class so we could call mom and dad for a meeting and so now I collect some
witch paraphenalia.

Jenn
Chris Braun - 30 Oct 2003 04:37 GMT
>I have a ceramic corked jar on my desk that says "Ashes of
> Problem Students" and a broom.  The broom is part of an ongoing joke about
> my being a witch.  I once told a class that if I find out someone's been
> surfing for porn at school I would hop and my broom and drag them out of
> class so we could call mom and dad for a meeting and so now I collect some
> witch paraphenalia.

Fun!  For my Halloween gym attire this year, I have orange and black
striped socks that say "I can be a witch."  (also a t-shirt that shows
a cute little bat and says "Bite Me!" in glow-in-the-dark letters.)

Chris
Beverly - 30 Oct 2003 14:48 GMT
> > "Cox SMTP east" <eeconverse@nospam.email.com> wrote in message
> news:<qcznb.35018$iq3.120@okepread01>...
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>
> Jenn

My boss says my certificates for advanced self-defense training hanging in
my office probably helps to keep problem users under control.

I have one of the ceramic corked jars sitting on the kitchen counter at
home.  I've gotten many comments from first time visitors and service
repair personnel regarding it.  It says "Ashes of ex-husbands".  One fellow
I dated didn't think it was funny.  I assumed he didn't have a sense of
humor and never dated him again<g>

Beverly
Ignoramus10861 - 30 Oct 2003 14:56 GMT
I considered a "TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT" sign (after some kids
destroyed a very nice house number sign that I put in my yard), but
decided against it. My feeling was that it was too unfriendly.

i

>> > "Cox SMTP east" <eeconverse@nospam.email.com> wrote in message
>> news:<qcznb.35018$iq3.120@okepread01>...
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>
> Beverly
Bob Pastorio - 30 Oct 2003 18:21 GMT
> I considered a "TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT" sign (after some kids
> destroyed a very nice house number sign that I put in my yard), but
> decided against it. My feeling was that it was too unfriendly.

One of my neighbors posted signs that said "Trespassers will be
violated." When I asked him what that meant, he just smiled. I don't
ride my bike on his road anymore.

Pastorio
Sarah Jane - 30 Oct 2003 19:46 GMT
>> I considered a "TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT" sign (after some kids
>> destroyed a very nice house number sign that I put in my yard), but
>> decided against it. My feeling was that it was too unfriendly.
>
> One of my neighbors posted signs that said "Trespassers will be
> violated." When I asked him what that meant, he just smiled.

Did he tell you you got a purty mouth?
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 30 Oct 2003 15:00 GMT
> It says "Ashes of ex-husbands".  One fellow
>I dated didn't think it was funny.  I assumed he didn't have a sense of
>humor and never dated him again<g>

You dumped him over this one, simple misunderstanding? Bet your still
single.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Beverly - 30 Oct 2003 15:25 GMT
> > It says "Ashes of ex-husbands".  One fellow
> >I dated didn't think it was funny.  I assumed he didn't have a sense of
> >humor and never dated him again<g>
>
> You dumped him over this one, simple misunderstanding? Bet your still
> single.

Of course I didn't dump him for that one reason.  There were several other
good reasons.

I've been happily divorced for several years and rather like it that way<g>
Some people enjoy being single and I'm one of them.

> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
> Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 30 Oct 2003 15:59 GMT
>  I assumed he didn't have a sense of
>> >humor and never dated him again<g>
>>
>> You dumped him over this one, simple misunderstanding? Bet your still
>> single.

>Of course I didn't dump him for that one reason.  There were several other
>good reasons.

I was only replying to your post.

>I've been happily divorced for several years and rather like it that way<g>
>Some people enjoy being single and I'm one of them.

Sure do. You want to be single and you appear to be a "tough" date. I
think you got this act down pat.

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Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Cox SMTP east - 30 Oct 2003 16:56 GMT
I know this is going to sound like the opposite of the advice you requested,
but I learned this from working at a large department store.  Up until a few
weeks ago when she retired, our store had a personal shopper.  Now, I
thought that you had to spend a ton of money or be really, really into
fashion to use one.  But, I discovered her to be a great resourse, FOR FREE,
of wonderful fashion advice and one to have a great knowledge of what was on
the racks at the store and, most importantly, what were the great
unadvertised deals on upper end merchandise that was never advertised.  I am
sure not all personal shopppers are as willing to work on the miniscule
budget (like mine), but her thought was one day, this person is going to
come in and need advice on a grand scale for a wedding or other large event.
It's worth a shot in getting together a few pieces that can shrink with you
or one great one that goes with anything.

Also, I think some catalog companies have personal shoppers that can give
you great advice on how to stretch a wardrobe dollar, too.   I think Land's
End has a personal shopper,  could be wrong.   Have fun...oh yeah,  two
companies that sell clothing that is designed to be loose fitting yet look
great is J. Jill and Chico's.  I don't know how old you are, but these are
not flirty young thing clothes (a la the juniors department).  J. Jill is on
the web...don't know about Chico's.  Elise.

> >  I assumed he didn't have a sense of
> >> >humor and never dated him again<g>
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> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
> Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Cox SMTP east - 30 Oct 2003 23:02 GMT
> I know this is going to sound like the opposite of the advice you requested,
> but I learned this from working at a large department store.  Up until a few
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> not flirty young thing clothes (a la the juniors department).  J. Jill is on
> the web...don't know about Chico's.  Elise.

Oops...this was misposted under the wrong thread.  It was in answer to Susan
Jones-Anderson's *whine*.  I have no idea how to move it..or if it is even
possible.  Elise.

> > >  I assumed he didn't have a sense of
> > >> >humor and never dated him again<g>
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> > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
> > Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Partial Eclipse Of The Mu_n - 31 Oct 2003 01:37 GMT
>Oops...this was misposted under the wrong thread.  It was in answer to Susan
>Jones-Anderson's *whine*.

God knows she does too.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap970827.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Jayjay - 28 Oct 2003 20:39 GMT
>I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was all
>cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training - first
>nautilus equipment, now free weights.

Yes, I do resistence training.   Anything from weighted cardio
workouts to dumbell lifting to the nautilus equipment.    I tend to
mix it up alot to get variety so I don't get bored.   And it all
depends on what my goals are as to which form I'm going for.

In all honesty - when it comes to changes in body composition -
weighted cardio makes a huge impact for me.   And the recovery time
for weighted cardio is much faster than for a full heavy weight
routine.   But, that's just my opinion.  :)

At this point in my life - I don't care about lifting heavy, I care
about keeping up with my son, my job and my life.   I don't want
injury, sickness, or to feel rundown.   I'd much rather be able to run
the soccer field at my son's games and practice and do pushups with
him on my back for resistence, than to see how much I can lift.
determined - 28 Oct 2003 20:49 GMT
"Jayjay" <jjf_71@notmail.com> wrote in message

> At this point in my life - I don't care about lifting heavy, I care
> about keeping up with my son, my job and my life.   I don't want
> injury, sickness, or to feel rundown.   I'd much rather be able to run
> the soccer field at my son's games and practice and do pushups with
> him on my back for resistence, than to see how much I can lift.

I think the health aspects are the most important too.  But I enjoy the
challenge, "just to see if I can do it"...  My biggest goal is to change my
bodycomposition to be more muscle and less fat.  I've considered weighted
cardio - we have a body pump class at my gym that I'd like to try.

det
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 22:13 GMT
what is the heaviest dumbbell that you can raise to your shoulder with
one arm.

i

> "Jayjay" <jjf_71@notmail.com> wrote in message
>>
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>
> det
Jayjay - 28 Oct 2003 22:45 GMT
50 is the heaviest I've got at home, and have tried this with.

>what is the heaviest dumbbell that you can raise to your shoulder with
>one arm.
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>> det
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 23:45 GMT
> 50 is the heaviest I've got at home, and have tried this with.

then you more or less must be able to do unassisted pullups, right?

i

>>what is the heaviest dumbbell that you can raise to your shoulder with
>>one arm.
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>>>
>>> det
Jayjay - 29 Oct 2003 14:31 GMT
>> 50 is the heaviest I've got at home, and have tried this with.
>
>then you more or less must be able to do unassisted pullups, right?

Actually - I haven't tried in a while...  so I don't know.
Mars at the Mu_n's Edge - 29 Oct 2003 16:10 GMT
>Yes, I do resistence training.  

Now learn how to spell it.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap030724.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Jennifer Austin - 30 Oct 2003 00:17 GMT
> Yes, I do resistence training.   Anything from weighted cardio
> workouts to dumbell lifting to the nautilus equipment.    I tend to
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> the soccer field at my son's games and practice and do pushups with
> him on my back for resistence, than to see how much I can lift.

Jayjay,  what do you consider "weighted cardio?"  Just curious.

I go to Curves 5-6 times a week for resistance training and I do step
aerobic routines with dumbells.  I have a video that is all dumbell which I
haven't done in a while but I was considering putting it in the mix again
with the weather being so crappy.  In addition to these, I still run and do
other cardio and I re-started Tae Bo about 3-4 x a week.  With that and yoga
and volleyball, my arms look pretty good, even with the skin - which is
showing improvement over time.

When I was in high school I threw a shot put and discus for track and spent
a lot of time in the weight room.  It just doesn't interest me these days
nor do I feel I have the time to make the commitment to take it seriously.
I do such a variety of things with my physical activity and as of my monthly
weigh and measure this morning at Curves, I'm losing fat and inches instead
of LBM now that I think I'm fine for now. I'd rather improve my mile than my
bench press :)

Jenn
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 22:12 GMT
My resistance training is mostly calisthenics. I figure, if that's
what the military does, it must be good for me.

I do pushups, pullups, and climb the rope that I hung from a tree in
our yard (about 15 feet or so). Also situps, crunches etc.

My muscle tone has substantially improved and so has endurance. I have
much bigger and better looking biceps.

I also have this little thing to exercise the muscles that close my
palm, I have no idea what they are called.

i

> I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was all
> cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training - first
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>
> det
Wendy - 28 Oct 2003 22:33 GMT
> My resistance training is mostly calisthenics. I figure, if that's
> what the military does, it must be good for me.

ROTFLMA!

> I also have this little thing to exercise the muscles that close my
> palm, I have no idea what they are called.

Go ask this question on MFW.  If you haven't figured out the name of it
yet I'm not going to be the one to tell you.

Wendy
MH - 29 Oct 2003 02:49 GMT
> > My resistance training is mostly calisthenics. I figure, if that's
> > what the military does, it must be good for me.
>
> ROTFLMA!

So, he's saying that soliders DON'T lift weights??????? That is funny! Tell
it to the Marines....*smirk*.

Once again, he proves that he still doesn't know what he's talking about.

> > I also have this little thing to exercise the muscles that close my
> > palm, I have no idea what they are called.
>
> Go ask this question on MFW.  If you haven't figured out the name of it
> yet I'm not going to be the one to tell you.

Yeah, and tell them you don't do any weight lifting while you're at it.
They'll get a kick out of it.

Martha

> Wendy
Brad Sheppard - 29 Oct 2003 01:36 GMT
I do 20 - 25 minutes 5 x a week.  My goal now is simple - better
posture so my stomach doesn't stick out from slouching.  I still do
much more cardio than resistance.

> I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was all
> cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training - first
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>
> det
MH - 29 Oct 2003 02:46 GMT
Yep, I do weight training three times a week. I'm going to need it when I
start climbing mountains... : )

Martha

> I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was all
> cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training - first
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>
> det
Chris Braun - 29 Oct 2003 02:49 GMT
> At 130 lbs, I am wearing a size
> 4-6 in pants, and the last time I weighed 130 I wore a size 8-10.  

And I'm kind of astonished to be wearing size 12s at 176 lbs :-).
(Even bought a pair of 10 pants the other day that fit -- if just a
tad tight -- but that's an anomaly.)

Chris
Wendy - 29 Oct 2003 02:58 GMT
> And I'm kind of astonished to be wearing size 12s at 176 lbs :-).

I wore a size 14 dressy wool pants to church on Sunday.  I wouldn't want
to try to breath deeply in them, but they looked nice on me.  I weigh 190.

(The last time I weighed 190 - without weight-lifting - I was around a
size 18.)

Wendy
A Ross - 29 Oct 2003 14:27 GMT
> I'm just curious.  When I first started my quest to lose weight, it was
> all
> cardio, all the time...  But I got turned on to resistance training -
> first
> nautilus equipment, now free weights.

I do a four-day split routing, usually about 40 minutes of lifting,
followed by 30 minutes of cardio. I also go to an hour-long pilates
class three times a week.

I use mostly free weights, machines for extensions, hamstring curls, lat
pulldown and chest fly. Dumbells for everything else. I haven't felt
ready to squat using the cage and bar--but now the heavier dumbells are
bothering my wrist, so I'm thinking it's time...

Amy
 
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