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beeswing - 28 Oct 2003 16:32 GMT
Yesterday, I came home with a few Lands End turtlenecks in size small, a Lands
End sweater in a size medium, and, last weekend, a Lands End jacket in a size
small. (I bought them at Sears, which is kewl; I would never have mail ordered
the right sizes.) So, anyway, I felt like it was past time to clean out the
closet.

I still can't handle getting rid of the event tee-shirts, size XL..."Mommy and
Me at the Zoo" for Mother's Day and such. And there's some sweaters and such
that I bought in the downward climb as I lost weight, so they are almost brand
new and hard to get rid off for that reason....but I did it anyway. And I tried
on one one shirt that used to fit and was floored by the size of it (the size
of me). I don't have any of my largest jeans, but a few big sized leggings were
*very interesting* on -- tossed them. (I wasn't sure if one pair was
maternity...or not.)

Bottom line though was that while doing this, I felt perversely SAD,
mostly...not happy to have lost weight and to have moved on, like my husband
kept saying that I "should" feel. Many of these clothes represented a part of
my life. They were favorite items I wore over and over, or they were things I
had bought for a specific occasion. It sounds stupid, but many had sentimental
value to them.

I felt like I was grieving, briefly, for the person I was, the person I no
longer am. And my husband didn't understand at all. Has anyone here felt
strange or sad about giving away the old clothes you used to wear? (And of
course there's a little terror...I've given away small clothes that I regret
getting rid of and could wear again now. What if I need all this big stuff
again? My husband blithely says, "Then buy new clothes!" But that's hardly a
comfort.)

I still have the XL mumu from Hawaii and a few other things. They'll have to
wait for the next round; I just couldn't bear to part with them.

beeswing
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 16:53 GMT
IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
have a ready supply of clothes. I would wait and not get rid of them.

I use my size 38 jeans to do work around the yard.

i
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jmk - 28 Oct 2003 16:56 GMT
I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
easy or convenient for you to regain.  Also, people do not usually look
good in oversized cloths.  They often look like clowns.

> IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
> size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
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>>beeswing

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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 17:05 GMT
> I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
> easy or convenient for you to regain.

Um, being fat is pretty inconvenient even if you already have
clothes!!!

> Also, people do not usually look
> good in oversized cloths.  They often look like clowns.

depends on how oversized.

i
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>> IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
>> size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
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>>>beeswing
jmk - 28 Oct 2003 17:12 GMT
>>I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
>>easy or convenient for you to regain.
>
> Um, being fat is pretty inconvenient even if you already have
> clothes!!!

I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
sizes around.  Part of the new WOE should involve changing to only
clothing in your current size.  Of course this kind of evolves since
many people don't get a whole new wardrobe right away.  If you have
these larger cloths around, the pants test doesn't work too well...

>>Also, people do not usually look
>>good in oversized cloths.  They often look like clowns.
>
> depends on how oversized.

This is true.  One size too large looks fine.  If my pants are two sizes
too large, they look like clown pants on me.

> i
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Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 17:38 GMT
>I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
>sizes around.

So should I toss the clothing I have that is too small for me?
Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 17:55 GMT
>>I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
>>sizes around.
>
>So should I toss the clothing I have that is too small for me?

Donate clothing you don't feel you will use at anytime in the future to
charity.  I do it all the time.

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Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 18:01 GMT
>>>I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
>>>sizes around.
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>CM

Now there is an idea and a good way for me to thin out my tiny closet
for future smaller clothes.
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 18:09 GMT
>>>>I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
>>>>sizes around.
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> Now there is an idea and a good way for me to thin out my tiny closet
> for future smaller clothes.

can you lose weight first?

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Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 18:21 GMT
>can you lose weight first?

Well I *could* but I should really see what is in there too.
It is packed *solid*.
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 19:26 GMT
Yeah... and the donation is a tax write off too!

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> >>>I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
> >>>sizes around.
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> Now there is an idea and a good way for me to thin out my tiny closet
> for future smaller clothes.
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 19:59 GMT
>Yeah... and the donation is a tax write off too!

I'm not concerned about that but I can give things I dont think I will
wear in the future to a battered women's shelter.
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 22:38 GMT
That is a great idea... If they have a tax id#, then you can get a receipt
from them as well.  You will help other women and yourself... a win win
situation.

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> >Yeah... and the donation is a tax write off too!
>
> I'm not concerned about that but I can give things I dont think I will
> wear in the future to a battered women's shelter.
jmk - 28 Oct 2003 17:57 GMT
hehe!  Nope.  That's a goal, not a safety net.

>>I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
>>sizes around.
>
> So should I toss the clothing I have that is too small for me?

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Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 19:26 GMT
It depends on how old and out of date it is...  If you haven't worn it in
3-4 years, I would...

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> >I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
> >sizes around.
>
> So should I toss the clothing I have that is too small for me?
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 19:59 GMT
>It depends on how old and out of date it is...  If you haven't worn it in
>3-4 years, I would...

This gives me something to do this coming weekend.

Closet reorganizing.  :-)
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 22:38 GMT
Yup... I had fun on Sunday!

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> >It depends on how old and out of date it is...  If you haven't worn it in
> >3-4 years, I would...
>
> This gives me something to do this coming weekend.
>
> Closet reorganizing.  :-)
megan - 03 Nov 2003 18:39 GMT
> >I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
> >sizes around.
>
> So should I toss the clothing I have that is too small for me?

in general... yep!  i used to keep around clothes that i had grown out
of, or that i had bought thinking, "well, they *almost* fit...", but
you know what? when i finally did lose enough weight for them to fit,
they really weren't that flattering.

i don't know if my body shape changed or what... but that's what
taught me not to buy clothes ahead of time before i hit a size...
because it's hard to tell what will flatter you when you're thinner,
since you have to imagine what "thinner" would be.

and as far as clothes i used to wear, well, it had been long enough
since i'd been this thin before, that fashions and styles had
changed... and my saved clothes had gotten faded.

point being, dammit, i worked to get thinner, so now i want to look
*good*! :)

...megan
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beeswing - 04 Nov 2003 15:27 GMT
>point being, dammit, i worked to get thinner, so now i want to look
>*good*! :)

boy, megan, I sure empathize with *that*!

beeswing,
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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 17:41 GMT
>>>I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
>>>easy or convenient for you to regain.
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> many people don't get a whole new wardrobe right away.  If you have
> these larger cloths around, the pants test doesn't work too well...

I understand that you want to throw away old clothes to feel more
committed. What I do not understand is why you would be more
committed if you do it. If yuo are so committed that you are willing
the risk of buying new clothes, then why throw them away in the first
place?

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jmk - 28 Oct 2003 17:48 GMT
>>>>I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
>>>>easy or convenient for you to regain.
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> the risk of buying new clothes, then why throw them away in the first
> place?

Firstly, I GIVE them away, I do no throw them away.  Secondly, I GIVE
them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to not need
them in the future.  Futhermore, someone else could probably make better
use of them than me -- what with them sitting aroudn going unworn and
all.  Besides, I need the closet space for my new clothes.

Why do you want to hang on to your old clothing?  Are you so insecure
that you think that you will need them again in the future?  If not, why
not donate them to your church/goodwill/salvation army so that someone
else can use them?

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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 18:02 GMT
> Firstly, I GIVE them away, I do no throw them away.  Secondly, I

does not matter

> GIVE them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to
> not need them in the future.

given pretty said dieting/maintenance statistics, I am not sure if you
have a basis for firmly believing that you will never need clothes.

> Futhermore, someone else could probably make better use of them than
> me -- what with them sitting aroudn going unworn and all.  Besides,
> I need the closet space for my new clothes.

Now, lack of closet space is a better reason, I agree.

> Why do you want to hang on to your old clothing?

Because I know that it is quite possible that I will regain my
weight. The statistics is fairly grim, most people regain weight after
weight loss. I obviously hope and will work to ensure that it won't
happen, but these are hopes and there is no certainty.

> Are you so insecure that you think that you will need them again in
> the future?

Of course! I think that I *might* need them in the future.

And if you are so "secure", I urge you to reconsider your
overconfident attitude.

> If not, why not donate them to your
> church/goodwill/salvation army so that someone else can use them?

because I may need to use them, that's why.

I noticed that some people become pretty upset when I point out
that their (and mine) weight loss may be only temporary. To me it
sounds more like denial than genuine commitment.

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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 18:05 GMT
>> Firstly, I GIVE them away, I do no throw them away.  Secondly, I
>
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>
> given pretty said dieting/maintenance statistics, I am not sure if you
             ^^^^^ sad statistics

> have a basis for firmly believing that you will never need clothes.
>
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jmk - 28 Oct 2003 18:11 GMT
>>Firstly, I GIVE them away, I do no throw them away.  Secondly, I
>
> does not matter

Sure it does.  One way they get used by someone and the other way the
fill a landfill.

>>GIVE them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to
>>not need them in the future.
>
> given pretty said dieting/maintenance statistics, I am not sure if you
> have a basis for firmly believing that you will never need clothes.

So you think that we should all set ourselves up for failure?  I do

>>Futhermore, someone else could probably make better use of them than
>>me -- what with them sitting aroudn going unworn and all.  Besides,
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> And if you are so "secure", I urge you to reconsider your
> overconfident attitude.

Just because you lack confidence in your ability to maintain your weight
does not mean that others should follow suit.  Why shouldn't I be
confident that I can maintain my goal weight?  Why should I set myself
up for failure?

>>If not, why not donate them to your
>>church/goodwill/salvation army so that someone else can use them?
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> that their (and mine) weight loss may be only temporary. To me it
> sounds more like denial than genuine commitment.

No, I don't find it upsetting.  I just don't understand why you are
setting yourself up that way.  To me hanging onto clothing that no
longer fits you seems to show the need for a safety net.  You might want
to exam your need to hang onto these relics of your former life.

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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 19:03 GMT
>>>GIVE them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to
>>>not need them in the future.
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>
> So you think that we should all set ourselves up for failure?  I do

Did you mean to say that you do not?

Anyway. Do you consider wearing a seatbelt as "setting yourself up for
accidents"? If not... I am sure that you are a diligent driver and use
your seatbelt just in case.

Same here.

>>>Are you so insecure that you think that you will need them again in
>>>the future?
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> Just because you lack confidence in your ability to maintain your weight
> does not mean that others should follow suit.

What is the source of your confidence?

Why do you think that you are so different from millions of other
people who lost weight, threw away their clothes and regained weight
in a year or two?

How much weight did you lose? How quickly? On what program? Have you
had previously unsuccessful dieting attempts? What is your diet? How
much do you exercise? Do you have a history of eating disorder? All
those are questions to consider to figure out how likely you are to
regain weight. And even if all answers point out to the best
likelihood of your success, it is still quite possible if not likely
that you will regain.

Statistics is, as I sad, very grim. It should not deter you from
trying but you need to be open minded.

> Why shouldn't I be confident that I can maintain my goal weight?

So far I have not heard a single *reason* why you should be confident.

> Why should I set myself up for failure?

Being prepared does not set you up for failure.

Denial of the possibility of failure however, is never a good thing.

Recognizing that weight regain is a possibility, would make you more
likely to succeed than the denial of that possibility that you are
exhibiting. You would be more alert.

>>>If not, why not donate them to your
>>>church/goodwill/salvation army so that someone else can use them?
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> longer fits you seems to show the need for a safety net. You might want
> to exam your need to hang onto these relics of your former life.

My need is twofold. One, I can still use them around the yard etc. As
for my XL polo shirts, they still look decent on me even though my new
clothes are size S and M. Two, I recognize the possibility of my
weight regain and do not want to be like ostriches who hide their
heads in the sand. Obviously I will make an effort to not regain
weight.

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jmk - 28 Oct 2003 19:19 GMT
>>>>GIVE them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to
>>>>not need them in the future.
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>
> Same here.

No but I do make sure that the seat belt fits.  Anyway, that's not the
same and you know it.

>>>>Are you so insecure that you think that you will need them again in
>>>>the future?
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> people who lost weight, threw away their clothes and regained weight
> in a year or two?

They use diets.  I changed my way of life.

> How much weight did you lose? How quickly? On what program? Have you
> had previously unsuccessful dieting attempts? What is your diet? How
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> likelihood of your success, it is still quite possible if not likely
> that you will regain.

If you have been paying attention you would know the answer to the above
questions.  I don't care to repeat all of that at this time.  Why are
you so insecure?  It sounds like you have some issues to deal with.

> Statistics is, as I sad, very grim. It should not deter you from
> trying but you need to be open minded.

Yes, dieters are generally not successful.  We all know that.  That is
one reason that we are here.

>>Why shouldn't I be confident that I can maintain my goal weight?
>
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>
> Being prepared does not set you up for failure.

Yes it does.  You are PLANNING to fail.

> Denial of the possibility of failure however, is never a good thing.

Of course not.

> Recognizing that weight regain is a possibility, would make you more
> likely to succeed than the denial of that possibility that you are
> exhibiting. You would be more alert.

I don't follow what you are trying to say.  So you want to keep around
clothing that is currently too large for you "just in case."  That is
going to make you more diligent?

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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 21:35 GMT
>>>>>GIVE them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to
>>>>>not need them in the future.
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> No but I do make sure that the seat belt fits.  Anyway, that's not the
> same and you know it.

Same thing. You protect yourself against things you do not wish to
happen.

>>>>And if you are so "secure", I urge you to reconsider your
>>>>overconfident attitude.
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>
> They use diets.  I changed my way of life.

Lots of them did as well.

>> How much weight did you lose? How quickly? On what program? Have you
>> had previously unsuccessful dieting attempts? What is your diet? How
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> If you have been paying attention you would know the answer to the above
> questions.

You never did explain your health program in any detail. I checked
google archives just to be sure. You mentioned riding a bicycle in one
post and certain foods that you were eating, in another.

> I don't care to repeat all of that at this time.

I am not surprised.

> Why are you so insecure?

I am not insecure, as such, I am realistic and I admit the possibility
of failure. You do not admit such a possibility. Let's see who is fat
in 5 years, you or me.

> It sounds like you have some issues to deal with.

sounds like a cheap shot to me...

>> Statistics is, as I sad, very grim. It should not deter you from
>> trying but you need to be open minded.
>
> Yes, dieters are generally not successful.  We all know that.  That is
> one reason that we are here.

Absolutely. We are also dieters, but we are hoping that we have better
plans than others.

>>>Why shouldn't I be confident that I can maintain my goal weight?
>> So far I have not heard a single *reason* why you should be confident.

you still have not given me such reasons.

>>>Why should I set myself up for failure?
>> Being prepared does not set you up for failure.
>
> Yes it does.  You are PLANNING to fail.

Why is that so? In fact I have great plans for maintaining my weight
that are hopefully going to work. But I have a backup plan as well.

Whereas you have no backup plan and are not even admitting the
possibility of a setback.

>> Denial of the possibility of failure however, is never a good thing.
>
> Of course not.

Good that you agree.

>> Recognizing that weight regain is a possibility, would make you more
>> likely to succeed than the denial of that possibility that you are
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> clothing that is currently too large for you "just in case."  That is
> going to make you more diligent?

No. Denying the possibility of weight regain is going to make you less
diligent. I am not denying such a possibility, therefore 1) I am more
diligent and 2) I keep old clothes just in case. In no way I am hurt
by keeping those clothes and my closets are huge.

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jmk - 29 Oct 2003 13:52 GMT
> I am not insecure, as such, I am realistic and I admit the possibility
> of failure. You do not admit such a possibility. Let's see who is fat
> in 5 years, you or me.

It's a date then!

Clearly you want to hang onto your too-big clothing.  Go for it.
Obviously, I don't agree with this strategy nor do I plan to use it
myself.  I would not recommend this strategy simply because, as someone
more eloquent that I put it, your waist band can be your conscious.

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Ignoramus29553 - 29 Oct 2003 14:41 GMT
>> I am not insecure, as such, I am realistic and I admit the possibility
>> of failure. You do not admit such a possibility. Let's see who is fat
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> myself.  I would not recommend this strategy simply because, as someone
> more eloquent that I put it, your waist band can be your conscious.

Okay... Looking at it again, I am a 5'11" male. An XL shirt may look
better on me than on recently slimmed down petite 5'2" female.

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beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 15:44 GMT
Ignoramus wrote:

>Okay... Looking at it again, I am a 5'11" male. An XL shirt may look
>better on me than on recently slimmed down petite 5'2" female.

Nicely worded. :)

beeswing, 5 ft *3* in editor
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 20:02 GMT
>My need is twofold. One, I can still use them around the yard etc. As
>for my XL polo shirts, they still look decent on me even though my new
>clothes are size S and M. Two, I recognize the possibility of my
>weight regain and do not want to be like ostriches who hide their
>heads in the sand. Obviously I will make an effort to not regain
>weight.

While I enjoy your posts, you remind me a lot of my ex boyfriend.

He is long-winded and sometimes holier-then-thou too.  

P.S.....and I mean that in a very respectful way.  :-)
Banty - 28 Oct 2003 20:07 GMT
>>>>GIVE them away because I no longer need them and I am planning to
>>>>not need them in the future.
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>
>Being prepared does not set you up for failure.

But does it really help you to be prepared even?  If you regain, the styles
would have changed.  You can buy some basics if you have to if you do regain.

So it's just a few $$$ saved.  Not like you might need to reach for your fat
clothes in case of a fire.

Methinks it's the packrat talking (nothing against packrats - I *are* one.  It's
the thinking I recognize - "I might need that if __enter some unlikely
circumstance here__.  When actually one is better off having to perhaps very
rarely have to buy for that rare circumstance, and not cluttering up one's life,
and getting something better suited to the circumstance anyway.)

Banty
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 22:41 GMT
I agree with you completely!  It was laughable when I was going through my 2
dressers and packed closet.  There were clothes in there that I would never
wear again yet I kept.  I don't want to keep fat clothes just in case.  That
is looking at changing my WOL as a cup 1/2 empty....

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> Banty
Crafting Mom - 29 Oct 2003 04:46 GMT
>I agree with you completely!  It was laughable when I was going through my 2
>dressers and packed closet.  There were clothes in there that I would never
>wear again yet I kept.  I don't want to keep fat clothes just in case.  That
>is looking at changing my WOL as a cup 1/2 empty....

Not to mention... people don't just suddenly wake up a whole new clothes
size the next day.  It progresses one way or the other.  There's time to
make adjustments accordingly to where your body goes.

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Miss Jaime - 29 Oct 2003 05:02 GMT
>Not to mention... people don't just suddenly wake up a whole new clothes
>size the next day.  It progresses one way or the other.  There's time to
>make adjustments accordingly to where your body goes.

Just the other day my youngest son asked me what I would do if I woke
up one morning and I was skinny.

First I told him I would wonder where in the *heck* the rest of me
went on my way to the bathroom and then told him I would hopefully
find *something* wearable in my closet because all my present clothes
would be falling off me, and then....go SHOPPING!!
Banty - 28 Oct 2003 18:52 GMT
>> Firstly, I GIVE them away, I do no throw them away.  Secondly, I
>
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>weight loss. I obviously hope and will work to ensure that it won't
>happen, but these are hopes and there is no certainty.

But 'most people' regain because they dont' really understand the dieting
process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know better - no?  At least
have the opportunity to maintain.

So the way to avoid getting fat again, to me, is to only have clothes that fit
you at maintenance weight once you get there.  It's a concrete reason to stay
slim - you can't fit anymore in your clothes if you start creeping up in weight
again!  If they start to get tight, the clothes become your conscience  :-)

It's not like, if there were some situation where weight gain was especially
hard to avoid (like injury or grieving or something), you'd go naked - then
you'd have to buy a few things.  But having to do so would be a disincentive for
normal situations.

I think much of the reason I gained 40 lbs over about eight years was that I
moved to elastic-waist and knit clothing for comfort and because I liked the
styles.  This also happened to a friend of mine, who gained 25 lbs and didn't
know it until her next checkup!  (She cried.)  Also for me - I got into this
attitude that I'm in my '40s, I don't have to look svelte, I can have this
mature-mother presence.  Until my bro got diabetes....  Plus I look like a tank
being six foot tall if I'm heavy - I'm not the type that gets 'pleasingly
plump'.  I saw some pictures of me and said "ohmygosh that's *not* looking
maternal and wise - that's looking just scary".  Stupid  stupid  stupid.

So my plan is:
1) I've given away most of my 'fat' clothes, and I'll give away my transitional
wardrobe too once I lose the final 15.
2)  Never - ever - ever - live in elastic stretchy clothes the way I did.  Set
in waistbands - a Good Thing.

I can relate, though to the OP.  There are certain fat things I *won't* give
away for sentimental reasons (same for some of the skinny stuff I had cleared
out years earlier).  For the transitional wardrobe I'm still wearing now -
yeah, they're pretty new and more fashionable than the 205 lb clothes, although
they're just basics - I think I'll have a hard time giving those away.

BTW, someone mentioned in another thread about losing weight in chunks.  I did
that - 25 lbs., maintain for 6 months, now (after what seemed to be a 6 week
period of cutting back on portions without getting weight loss - like an
induction period) I'm losing again.

Banty (205/177/165)
Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 19:25 GMT
>But 'most people' regain because they dont' really understand the dieting
>process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know better - no?  At least
>have the opportunity to maintain.

Bingo!  When something works, you *stick* *with* *it*.  Note, I am not
saying *which* diet you should follow.  That's up to each person and
*their* bodies.  But stick with it for life!  Modify it every now and
then if you get bored, but for the most part, stick with it.

>I can relate, though to the OP.  There are certain fat things I *won't* give
>away for sentimental reasons (same for some of the skinny stuff I had cleared
>out years earlier).  For the transitional wardrobe I'm still wearing now -
>yeah, they're pretty new and more fashionable than the 205 lb clothes, although
>they're just basics - I think I'll have a hard time giving those away.

Yes, I agree.

>BTW, someone mentioned in another thread about losing weight in chunks.  I did
>that - 25 lbs., maintain for 6 months, now (after what seemed to be a 6 week
>period of cutting back on portions without getting weight loss - like an
>induction period) I'm losing again.

Congrats!

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jmk - 28 Oct 2003 19:35 GMT
>>But 'most people' regain because they dont' really understand the dieting
>>process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know better - no?  At least
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> *their* bodies.  But stick with it for life!  Modify it every now and
> then if you get bored, but for the most part, stick with it.

Right, it's your body.  You live in it, not me...  It's an individual
decision but I think that we would all encourage people to try to make a
healthy choice that they can live with.  As far as regaining -- I think
that many folks get into a "dieting" mindset and when they reach their
goal, well, they're done.  Uh, no.  I know that I will need to keep a
food log and a weight log for the forseeable future -- maybe forever.
I'm fine with that.  For me it's a portion control thing as much as
anything -- plus keeping fruit, etc. in the house.

CM, I think that you mentioned that you have a supportive environment.
That sure helps.  DH really likes our WOE.  We have organized or recipes
(used scanner to copy them and put them in a binder with sheet
protectors for easy access, each recipe has nutritional info too).

>>BTW, someone mentioned in another thread about losing weight in chunks.  I did
>>that - 25 lbs., maintain for 6 months, now (after what seemed to be a 6 week
>>period of cutting back on portions without getting weight loss - like an
>>induction period) I'm losing again.
>
> Congrats!

Banty, I'm so glad to hear that worked for you.  I had an intermediate
goal and when I reached it, I just kept going.  I actually said that I
could buy a new bike then but I decided to wait on that.  :-)  My
current bike fits me better at my current weight and I didn't find a
model that I *had* to have.  I think that it's nice to have intermediate
or mini-goals.

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Banty - 28 Oct 2003 20:00 GMT
>>But 'most people' regain because they dont' really understand the dieting
>>process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know better - no?  At least
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>
>CM

Thanks, CM  :-)
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 02:48 GMT
>>I can relate, though to the OP.  There are certain fat things I *won't* give
>>away for sentimental reasons (same for some of the skinny stuff I had
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Yes, I agree.

It does feel sort of peculiar to be giving away near-brand-new clothes,
especially those I bought recently, on the downward plunge. I was so excited to
get "down" to a size large from an XL, for example, and now I can't wear those
clothes that I'd been so excited about buying and fitting into.

I didn't do most of my buying until I reached my bottom weight, then I
purchased several pairs of pants (knowing that I wouldn't be weighing less than
that and assuming my size would be stable because of it). Well, my weight
redistributed and many of *those* pants don't fit. They are are hardest
"nonsentimental" clothes for me to bite the bullet on and replace.

beeswing
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 21:46 GMT
>>> Firstly, I GIVE them away, I do no throw them away.  Secondly, I
>>
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> dieting process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know
> better - no?  At least have the opportunity to maintain.

I am not sure.

Maybe the people who regain do not know better. So they lose weight
and then return to old habits.

But they still step on the scale, right? Or they stop fitting in their
new beautiful clothes.

Is that not a good enough signal to them that they are regaining?

And yet they ignore it, buy bigger clothes, keep overeating etc.

It is not that simple. They get off the diet and ignore their weight
gains and _do nothing about it_. They give up. You do not need to know
much to figure out that you are regaining weight and need to do
something.

> So the way to avoid getting fat again, to me, is to only have
> clothes that fit you at maintenance weight once you get there.  It's
> a concrete reason to stay slim - you can't fit anymore in your
> clothes if you start creeping up in weight again!  If they start to
> get tight, the clothes become your conscience :-)

You lose me here. Keep old clothes or not, if you wear new clothes,
you would notice that you are getting fat! Or if you ever step on the
scale.

> I think much of the reason I gained 40 lbs over about eight years
> was that I moved to elastic-waist and knit clothing for comfort and
> because I liked the styles.  This also happened to a friend of mine,
> who gained 25 lbs and didn't know it until her next checkup!  (She

buy a bathroom scale!!!

> cried.)  Also for me - I got into this attitude that I'm in my '40s,
> I don't have to look svelte, I can have this mature-mother presence.

that is more like the real reason.

> So my plan is:

> 1) I've given away most of my 'fat' clothes, and I'll give away my
> transitional wardrobe too once I lose the final 15.

try ebay...

> 2) Never - ever - ever - live in elastic stretchy clothes the way I
> did.  Set in waistbands - a Good Thing.

Well... how about a radical thought... A BATHROOM SCALE???

i
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 22:45 GMT
Where did you lose him?  He says that wearing and keeping clothes that fit
as you thin down help you stay aware of your weight.  It is harder to gain
weight, as you may be more consious of how the clothes fit.  In addition,
styles do change... and keeping clothes in anticipation of gaining weight is
a waste of space.  You can greatly help someone in need....

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> > So the way to avoid getting fat again, to me, is to only have
> > clothes that fit you at maintenance weight once you get there.  It's
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> you would notice that you are getting fat! Or if you ever step on the
> scale.
jmk - 29 Oct 2003 14:04 GMT
>>But 'most people' regain because they dont' really understand the
>>dieting process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> But they still step on the scale, right? Or they stop fitting in their
> new beautiful clothes.

I think that part of the problem is that they *don't* continue to step
on the scale or monitor themselves in other ways (how clothing fits
might be a way or measurements or bf%, etc.).  Frequent self-monitoring
is one of the success factors that I see mentioned all of the time.  Of
course, so is sticking with your exercise plan :-)

"successful long-term weight loss maintainers (average weight loss of 30
kg for an average of 5.5 years) share common behavioral strategies,
including eating a diet low in fat, frequent self-monitoring of body
weight and food intake, and high levels of regular physical activity.
Weight loss maintenance may get easier over time. Once these successful
maintainers have maintained a weight loss for 2-5 years, the chances of
longer-term success greatly increase."
Annu Rev Nutr. 2001;21:323-41

> Is that not a good enough signal to them that they are regaining?
>
> And yet they ignore it, buy bigger clothes, keep overeating etc.

hehe!  Maybe they don't have to buy bigger clothes!  Maybe they just
start wearing the larger sized clothing that they already had in the
house :-)

> It is not that simple. They get off the diet

Ah, but this is the problem.  Don't you think that people with a "diet"
mentality versus as WOE mentality have different approaches?

I'm not sure the best way to explain what I mean.  A few years ago we
adopted a rescue dog.  She had some issues but we worked through them.
One of the things that she needed to learn is "this is how we do things
here."  I think that is one of the things that we all need to learn with
our healthier WOE.  This is how we eat now.

>>So my plan is:
>>2) Never - ever - ever - live in elastic stretchy clothes the way I
>>did.  Set in waistbands - a Good Thing.

Yes, Banty, I have heard this recommended by many many people.  Elastic
waist, very bad.  Gives you no feedback.  It's not necessarily all about
your exact weight.  It could be that you weigh the same but need to
excercise more, etc.  It makes sense to me at least.  As always, YMMV.

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Banty - 29 Oct 2003 15:45 GMT
>>>But 'most people' regain because they dont' really understand the
>>>dieting process and go back to old habits.  Those on this NG know
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>is one of the success factors that I see mentioned all of the time.  Of
>course, so is sticking with your exercise plan :-)

The thing is that having clothes not fitting as well, and being in them all day,
is so much more concrete than where that needle (or digital readout) is on the
scale.  With forgiving elastic-waist clothes, or a set of fat or transitional
clothes hanging in the closet, that needle position or LED readout just ain't
gonna pinch you the same way!

The other thing is that for a lot of people, especially women, that readout will
vary from day to day and week to week anyway, so the meaning of an increasing
reading on the scale is fuzzy.

>"successful long-term weight loss maintainers (average weight loss of 30
>kg for an average of 5.5 years) share common behavioral strategies,
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>longer-term success greatly increase."
>Annu Rev Nutr. 2001;21:323-41

Ooo - I was wondering about that.  Thanks for posting that - just hanging in
there makes things easier.

>> Is that not a good enough signal to them that they are regaining?
>>
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>start wearing the larger sized clothing that they already had in the
>house :-)

'Zactly!

Banty
Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 19:13 GMT
>the risk of buying new clothes, then why throw them away in the first
>place?

I've not given away *all* my clothes.  I wear my "fat shirts" for around
the house, and they've been either re-assigned the office of "apron", or
"nightgown".

However, what do you find objectionable about donating clothes for which
one no longer has any use (or foresees needing)?  Or have I
misunderstood you?

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Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 19:27 GMT
Incentive NOT to regain the weight!

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> >>>I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
> >>>easy or convenient for you to regain.
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Melissa - 28 Oct 2003 20:53 GMT
> I still don't think that it's a good plan to have clothing in multiple
> sizes around.  Part of the new WOE should involve changing to only
> clothing in your current size.

The only thing I like to keep in mind is a women's fluctuations during the
month. It's nice to have work pants and at least one pair of decent jeans
that are more roomy for those "bloat" times. Nothing is worse than having to
wear too tight pants all day at work.

Of course, I'm not talking wild size ranges here, for me it means having
Dockers in 4's and 6's because of the different fits on some styles and how
many times they've been washed etc.

Melissa
beeswing - 28 Oct 2003 17:14 GMT
>I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
>easy or convenient for you to regain.  Also, people do not usually look
>good in oversized cloths.  They often look like clowns.

I'd kept the size 12 jeans for a while, "just in case." They landed in the
Goodwill pile last night, too.

Petite people look especially ridiculous in clothing that is too big for them,
I think...being one.

beeswing
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 02:37 GMT
>I don't think that it's a good idea to keep the cloths.  It shouldn't be
>easy or convenient for you to regain.  Also, people do not usually look
>good in oversized cloths.  They often look like clowns.

Especially eensy-weensy short people like myself. ;)

beeswing
Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 16:56 GMT
>IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
>size small. You still look decent.

I agree.  With the exception of some clothes (fancy dinner jackets or
what have you), I have kept a few of my favorite things for wearing
around the house.
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Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 17:05 GMT
>>IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
>>size small. You still look decent.
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> around the house.
> CM

Yep... They become very comfortable this way and your healthier
outlines are readily visible.

i
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beeswing - 28 Oct 2003 17:12 GMT
>I agree.  With the exception of some clothes (fancy dinner jackets or
>what have you), I have kept a few of my favorite things for wearing
>around the house.

Please read the response I wrote Ignoramus. This no longer works, except for
unisex teeshirts and such -- and even those fit badly and make me sloppy. But I
wear my favorite ones occasionally, anyway....

beeswing
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 17:18 GMT
>Please read the response I wrote Ignoramus. This no longer works, except for
>unisex teeshirts and such -- and even those fit badly and make me sloppy. But I
>wear my favorite ones occasionally, anyway....

You can always save the big teeshirts and wear them to bed.
janice - 28 Oct 2003 17:48 GMT
>You can always save the big teeshirts and wear them to bed.

LOL - for me, after losing weight would be a funny time to start
wearing clothing in bed - it would be the first time I'd done that
since I was a child:)
janice
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 18:03 GMT
>>You can always save the big teeshirts and wear them to bed.
>
>LOL - for me, after losing weight would be a funny time to start
>wearing clothing in bed - it would be the first time I'd done that
>since I was a child:)
>janice

Not me. I often wear teeshirts and shorts to bed because I find the
long nightgowns I have wrap around my legs at night and annoy me.

Then there are other benefits to wearing teeshirts (minus the shorts)
in bed but I won't go into that here. It is best kept for another
group entirely.  :-)
janice - 28 Oct 2003 18:31 GMT
>>LOL - for me, after losing weight would be a funny time to start
>>wearing clothing in bed - it would be the first time I'd done that
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>Not me. I often wear teeshirts and shorts to bed because I find the
>long nightgowns I have wrap around my legs at night and annoy me.

Who said anything about nightgowns?  I certainly didn't:)
janice
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 20:03 GMT
>>>LOL - for me, after losing weight would be a funny time to start
>>>wearing clothing in bed - it would be the first time I'd done that
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>Who said anything about nightgowns?  I certainly didn't:)
>janice

Okay.  LOL!!
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 19:29 GMT
Unless you don't sleep in clothes *wink*

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> >Please read the response I wrote Ignoramus. This no longer works, except for
> >unisex teeshirts and such -- and even those fit badly and make me sloppy. But I
> >wear my favorite ones occasionally, anyway....
>
> You can always save the big teeshirts and wear them to bed.
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 19:58 GMT
>Unless you don't sleep in clothes *wink*

I have to sleep in something. The lock on my bedroom door is busted.
Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 22:46 GMT
Get a new lock??

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> >Unless you don't sleep in clothes *wink*
>
> I have to sleep in something. The lock on my bedroom door is busted.
Miss Jaime - 29 Oct 2003 02:53 GMT
>Get a new lock??

Been meaning too but since I do not have a current boyfriend it isn't
high on my list of priorities at the moment.
Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 17:29 GMT
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>
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>unisex teeshirts and such -- and even those fit badly and make me sloppy. But I
>wear my favorite ones occasionally, anyway....

I did.  I discovered it after I had already posted.  Anyway, it *was*
about what *I* do with clothes, so take it or leave it. :)  It's what
makes discussion interesting.
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beeswing - 28 Oct 2003 17:09 GMT
ignoramus wrote:

>IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
>size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
>have a ready supply of clothes. I would wait and not get rid of them.

Maybe that works for you, but at 5 ft 3 in like I am, an XL = almost 180 pounds
and a S = 107. The XL unisex teeshirts I could still wear -- they'd look roomy,
and I'd look a little like a child dressed in her parent's clothes, but I could
wear them. The pants, the dresses, the jackets, and some of the sweaters -- on
the other hand -- literally hang on me...or is it hang *off* me? Old jeans I
got rid of as I went along, because they *fall* off of me.  And in a V-neck,
the effect is ... um ... well, really interesting. But please don't think too,
too hard about that, k? :)

beeswing
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 17:13 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> beeswing

Okay, agreed on pants. I would not wear my size 38 pants anywhere
except in the yard. But T shirts look alright... IMHO.

i
beeswing - 28 Oct 2003 17:17 GMT
Ignoramus wrote:

>Okay, agreed on pants. I would not wear my size 38 pants anywhere
>except in the yard. But T shirts look alright... IMHO.

On you. We'll talk again when you reach 107 and 5 ft 3 in.

beeswing
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 17:20 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
> beeswing

no, we'll talk when you reach 5'11"!!!

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Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 17:32 GMT
>x-no-archive: yes
>
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>
>On you. We'll talk again when you reach 107 and 5 ft 3 in.

Why did you post this topic if you didn't want other people to add their
own experiences to it?   When I look at a thread that has numerous
responses, I look forward to reading it because I know each post is
going to be different.

Take care and hope you find what works for you.

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beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 00:37 GMT
I posted this response earlier today, but I wasn't able to thread it
so I'm reposting it in its proper place. I apologize for the
duplication.

> Why did you post this topic if you didn't want other people to add their
> own experiences to it?   When I look at a thread that has numerous
> responses, I look forward to reading it because I know each post is
> going to be different.

I think you are misreading me. I was responding specifically to the
following comment made by Ignoramus, which you said you agreed with:

> [Ignoramus wrote:]
>> IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes
>> even if you are size small. You still look decent.

Granted, Ignoramus started out with an "IMHO," but he wrote the
sentence as a "you" statement [me] and not "I" statement [Ignoramus].
He said, "You still look decent." Well, he might, but *I* don't. So
even though it's stated as an absolute, it isn't one -- there is
something wrong with wearing extra-large clothes, at least for me.
That's why I worded my response the way I did. Opinions are wanted and
welcome. But to my eyes, this one was written as if he was speaking
for everyone, not just himself.

beeswing
MH - 29 Oct 2003 03:08 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
>
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> That's why I worded my response the way I did. Opinions are wanted and
> welcome.

But to my eyes, this one was written as if he was speaking
> for everyone, not just himself.

Me too, it's something he does all the time. What works for him, he thinks
should work for everyone. Simplistic.

Martha

> beeswing
Miss Jaime - 29 Oct 2003 03:18 GMT
>Me too, it's something he does all the time. What works for him, he thinks
>should work for everyone. Simplistic.

That was why I commented that he reminded me of my ex boyfriend who
also thought (and probably still does) what works for him has to work
for everyone else.
Jayjay - 28 Oct 2003 17:21 GMT
>IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
>size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
>have a ready supply of clothes. I would wait and not get rid of them.
>
>I use my size 38 jeans to do work around the yard.

I've always had some xl tshirts - they are great for sleeping in, or
working out or something...  but I've found that even those are now so
large that its not worth keeping.

For years I kept a few keepsake shirts - I've got a cedar chest for
those kinds of things.   Packed in storage bags and stored in my cedar
chest.  

But XL shirts can look like you are swimming in them when you are the
size of beeswing.
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 02:54 GMT
>But XL shirts can look like you are swimming in them when you are the
>size of beeswing.

Thanks for understanding, Jayjay. BTW, there *is* a part of me that enjoys the
feeling of "swimming" (hiding?) in those too-big shirts...but I'm trying to
clean up my act and dress a little nicer these days. The huge shirts have just
got to be set aside, at a minimum.

beeswing
SuzyQ - 28 Oct 2003 18:44 GMT
I think you might want to rethink this.  Keeping fat clothes in case you
regain the weight might be a self fulfilling prophecy.
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> IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
> size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
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> > beeswing
Ignoramus16911 - 28 Oct 2003 19:04 GMT
> I think you might want to rethink this.  Keeping fat clothes in case you
> regain the weight might be a self fulfilling prophecy.

I am not a kid to be influenced by self fulfilling prophecies.

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Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 19:25 GMT
I spent this past weekend cleaning out my closet and dresser... 9 bags of
clothes got donated.  I can tell you, after losing alot of weight.... all I
want to do is fit into the smallest size I can.  I don't want to keep the
bigger sizes!! I had clothes from the 90's.... all different sizes.  I even
donated clothes that fit, since I haven't worn them in ages.  There is
something great about shopping for a smaller size!

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> IMHO, there is nothing wrong with wearing XL clothes even if you are
> size small. You still look decent. Plus, if you regain weight, you
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> >
> > beeswing
Crafting Mom - 28 Oct 2003 19:27 GMT
>I spent this past weekend cleaning out my closet and dresser... 9 bags of
>clothes got donated.  I can tell you, after losing alot of weight.... all I
>want to do is fit into the smallest size I can.  I don't want to keep the
>bigger sizes!! I had clothes from the 90's.... all different sizes.  I even
>donated clothes that fit, since I haven't worn them in ages.  There is
>something great about shopping for a smaller size!

And the recipients of those donations will be grateful.
When I was heavier, I certainly appreciated the availability of larger
sized clothing at the second hand shops.

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Perple Glow - 28 Oct 2003 19:51 GMT
You should have seen the bright pink skirt suit with the huge shoulder pads.
It was from 1991 or 1992 I think.  I wonder what I was thinking in keeping
it!!!  Blech!!

I am glad to donate... I usually bring stuff every year to goodwill....

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> >I spent this past weekend cleaning out my closet and dresser... 9 bags of
> >clothes got donated.  I can tell you, after losing alot of weight.... all I
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beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 02:55 GMT
>There is
>something great about shopping for a smaller size!

Ain't that the truth....

(Well, as long as you can find items you like that fit your new body! But
that's a whole 'nuther discussion.)

beeswing
Jennifer Austin - 30 Oct 2003 04:06 GMT
> I spent this past weekend cleaning out my closet and dresser... 9 bags of
> clothes got donated.  I can tell you, after losing alot of weight.... all I
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It's definitely a rush to think you're one size and then find out you're a
size smaller.  Enjoy it!

Jenn
janice - 28 Oct 2003 17:16 GMT
Beeswing, I can relate to this, having given away 5 large bags of "too
big" clothes.  I decided this time I'd do it whatever, but it does
feel a little sad getting rid of things that have been part of you for
a while.  I also have the added knowledge that I've done this before
and then regained the weight and had to buy more clothes, but I find
if anything it's helped me to get rid of the clothes this time.  It
feels scary though, like shutting doors behind you that can't be
reopened.  
I've found it's also possible to feel a little "in mourning" for the
lost weight, much as you know you don't really want to hang on to it.
I'm sure what you're doing is right, though,
janice

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>beeswing
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 02:31 GMT
Janice wrote:

>Beeswing, I can relate to this, having given away 5 large bags of "too
>big" clothes.  I decided this time I'd do it whatever, but it does
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>lost weight, much as you know you don't really want to hang on to it.
>I'm sure what you're doing is right, though,

Weight loss, and having lost weight, has been an emotional experience as well
as a physical one for me. Many people, including my husband, don't understand
this. It seems as though you do. I appreciate the support, Janice.

beeswing
Jayjay - 28 Oct 2003 17:20 GMT
Its times like this when consignment shops become your friend...  Why
give the brand new clothes away when you can make a bit of money back
on those barely worn items.

Of course, if you are the giving type, then I'd suggest a woman's
shelter for the clothing over goodwill.  Its not that I have anything
against goodwill - I donate alot to them.   But when it comes to
clothing I am a bit more picky.   If its still in good condition,
barely worn, stylish, and especially if its more business attire,
then I'll turn it over to a woman's shelter so that it can go to
another woman who is in need.    Or if I have the time/energy, I'll go
through the consignment shop and make some money back on the clothes.

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beeswing - 28 Oct 2003 17:26 GMT
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Okay, true confession. Goodwill is only a few blocks from us and is
easy-squeezy to drop clothes and stuff off at. Otherwise, with our
schedule/energy levels, we'd never get ANYTHING out of the house.

I sometimes shop Goodwill. Occasionally, I think of it as recycling. :P

Thanks for the suggestion, though. I do have a almost-new GoreTex jacket in an
XL that I probably should get the energy up to consign. I will not/cannot bring
myself to give that away.

beeswing
MH - 29 Oct 2003 05:07 GMT
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I want to thank you, beeswing, for starting this thread. I've been
recalcentrant about getting rid of the too-large clothes I have, and I
really need to take a couple garbages' worth to Goodwill, which is also just
up the street.

I also shop at Goodwill, as well as St. Anthony's Second Hand Store and a
couple other places.

But, it's time to get rid of the too big stuff. I will not gain this weight
back.

Martha
Miss Jaime - 29 Oct 2003 05:24 GMT
>But, it's time to get rid of the too big stuff. I will not gain this weight
>back.

Good for you Martha. You sound very determined.  :-)
MH - 29 Oct 2003 05:59 GMT
> >But, it's time to get rid of the too big stuff. I will not gain this weight
> >back.
>
> Good for you Martha. You sound very determined.  :-)

Thanks to many of you, I am. : )

Martha
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 06:53 GMT
Martha wrote:

>I want to thank you, beeswing, for starting this thread. I've been
>recalcentrant about getting rid of the too-large clothes I have, and I
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>But, it's time to get rid of the too big stuff. I will not gain this weight
>back.

That's a great attitude to have. Start hauling off those bags of clothes! (You
should see the size of the pile I've made on my bedroom floor to bring to the
Goodwill this weekend. I admit -- I grabbed one sweater back; I couldn't quite
stand to part with it yet, even though it's way too big. But the rest is going
out the door, I promise!)

beeswing
That T Woman - 29 Oct 2003 18:10 GMT
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Big sweaters I can see keeping.  Think layering when it's very, very cold.

Tonia
beeswing - 30 Oct 2003 06:03 GMT
Tonia wrote:

>Big sweaters I can see keeping.  Think layering when it's very, very cold.

I have a big sweater that I love that is well worth keeping; layering is a good
thing. This is a big cardigan..........that hangs off of me. It's like useless
to me. And yet I'm torn........Goodwill this week.......or to Goodwill down the
road? I bought it just as I started to lose weight.

beeswing
Jennifer Austin - 30 Oct 2003 03:46 GMT
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I lost count on how many bags went to Goodwill.  They started going as soon
as I couldn't wear stuff anymore.  I kept the dress I got married in, it's
still hanging in my closet.  I also kept a few of my favorite skirts because
I had them taken in.  It was difficult to get rid of some things, easier for
others.  Some of my absolute favorite items went to a few special friends.

I have a double closet that was full from end to end with the rod
practically bent in two and now I barely fill half of it, yet I have a lot
of clothes.  It's like DH said about the laundry, the loads are physically
smaller even though the folding hasn't been cut back.

OTOH, I had some things stored from high school like my very worn denim
jacket that never fit properly which is now kind of oversized but still
looks pretty good - and my Benetton rugby shirt that was always too darn
tight but fits great now even though it's an XL.  It just goes to show how
the cut of some clothes has changed over the years.

Jenn
beeswing - 30 Oct 2003 06:06 GMT
Jenn wrote:

>OTOH, I had some things stored from high school like my very worn denim
>jacket that never fit properly which is now kind of oversized but still
>looks pretty good - and my Benetton rugby shirt that was always too darn
>tight but fits great now even though it's an XL.  It just goes to show how
>the cut of some clothes has changed over the years.

Yeah........and there's the lovely black lambs wool Benetton sweater that I got
rid of a while back that would have fit me perfectly now. *SIGH*

beeswing
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Yes!

As soon as this poison oak is completely gone, I'll drag out several bags...

Martha
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After reading all the posts I'm definitely ready to tackle my closests.
Just as soon as I get over this terrible allergy/sinus infection and get
the rental unit cleaned and painted I'm going to tackle mine.  My biggest
problem is keeping things I haven't worn for a couple of years.  Many of
them still fit but I just hate to part with them.

Beverly
Miss Jaime - 28 Oct 2003 17:21 GMT
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I can understand how you feel not wanting to part with some of your
favourite things.

I have a few things I would like to keep as I lose weight and
probably will even if it will just be to wear them in bed
as night clothes.
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 02:34 GMT
>I have a few things I would like to keep as I lose weight and
>probably will even if it will just be to wear them in bed
>as night clothes.

I have a huge box of extra large men's/unisex teeshirts commemorating one thing
or another. That's a few more night clothes than I really need. And I prefer
flannel. :)

Verdict for now: Keep the boxful of shirts. For now.

beeswing
Beverly - 29 Oct 2003 14:07 GMT
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I've seen people make quilts out of their favorite t-shirts.  This might be
a way for you to keep them.  I've never made one but I've seen a couple my
aunt made for her sons from their favorite shirts and they were nice.

http://www.goosetracks.com/T-shirtQuilts.html
jmk - 29 Oct 2003 14:47 GMT
> I've seen people make quilts out of their favorite t-shirts.  This might be
> a way for you to keep them.  I've never made one but I've seen a couple my
> aunt made for her sons from their favorite shirts and they were nice.
>
> http://www.goosetracks.com/T-shirtQuilts.html

Hey, this reminds me.  DH's mom made him a jeans quilt for him when he
went to college.  It was all denim on one side and just squares of old
jeans (6x6 or 8x8).  Very sturdy.

Signature

jmk in NC

Beverly - 29 Oct 2003 15:15 GMT
> > I've seen people make quilts out of their favorite t-shirts.  This might be
> > a way for you to keep them.  I've never made one but I've seen a couple my
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> jmk in NC

I've never made a quilt from old jeans but I have made the teenage
granddaughters small purses/makeup bags out of the pants legs of their old
jeans.  They loved them.
A Ross - 29 Oct 2003 14:42 GMT
I clean my closets every fall and spring. If I found I haven't worn it
while it was "in-season" or it just looks plain silly on me now, I toss
it.

Most clothing I give to one of my SIL's who has a large family and
little money to spend on office attire. She seems to appreciate the
clothes, but I worry that she may feel insulted that I'm giving her what
is, when it comes down to it, my "fat" clothes. I would never call them
that, but it's obvious why I'm getting rid of them.

One thing my circle of girl friends and family have done in the past is
have a "naked ladies" party. We clean our closets and hold a clothing
swap. Everybody goes home with a few new outfits--some make out pretty
well with the stuff others have "outgrown," and others benefit from the
things that some have "outlost."

Add canapes and wine for a really good time.

Amy
beeswing - 29 Oct 2003 15:51 GMT
>She seems to appreciate the
>clothes, but I worry that she may feel insulted that I'm giving her what
>is, when it comes down to it, my "fat" clothes. I would never call them
>that, but it's obvious why I'm getting rid of them.

I have a couple of really nice things I'd like to give my sister, but I don't
want to offend or upset her. Same reason.

beeswing
Chris Braun - 01 Nov 2003 14:42 GMT
I also sometimes find it sad to give away clothes that I've loved.
Mostly I only undertake this sort of thing when I'm in the right mood.
In some moods I can't bear to part with anything; in other moods I'm
more ruthless.  Some things just have to wait until the next pass.

One thing that helps is I sometimes give things to people I know.  For
example, I have had a lot of t-shirts that have meant something to me,
but they became too big to wear.  I've given some of them to friends
at the gym.  That way I know they're going to a good home :-).

There's a new TV show -- I think on the Discovery TLC channel --
called Clean Sweep.  A team of organizers and decorators come into
someone's home and help them sort out and redecorate a couple of
hopeless over-cluttered rooms.  They're very good at talking people
through giving things away.  Watching this puts me in the right sort
of "get-rid-of-it" mood.

Chris
beeswing - 02 Nov 2003 01:38 GMT
>There's a new TV show -- I think on the Discovery TLC channel --
>called Clean Sweep.  A team of organizers and decorators come into
>someone's home and help them sort out and redecorate a couple of
>hopeless over-cluttered rooms.  They're very good at talking people
>through giving things away.  Watching this puts me in the right sort
>of "get-rid-of-it" mood.

I'll have to check that out. Thanks.

BTW, my husband hauled the clothes to the Goodwill today. I gritted my teeth
and threw in the two too-large sweaters I bought when I just started to lose
weight. And it's too late now to change my mind about any of it. :)

beeswing
Beverly - 03 Nov 2003 13:40 GMT
> I also sometimes find it sad to give away clothes that I've loved.
> Mostly I only undertake this sort of thing when I'm in the right mood.
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> Chris

I love watching those shows.  There's also one on HGTV called "Misson:
Organization".

Beverly
Chris Braun - 03 Nov 2003 13:47 GMT
>I love watching those shows.  There's also one on HGTV called "Misson:
>Organization".

Yeah, I love that one too.  Now if I could only do it :-).

Chris
 
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