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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / November 2003Do NITRO-TECH bars contain "trans-fat"
I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. I am trying to figure out whether they contain any significant amounts of "trans-fat". Any comments will be appreciated. Thanks, Sy -- what does the label say?  Signature"We all walk the long road, can not stay. There's no need to say goodbye." E.V. > > I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -- > what does the label say? Nitro-tech It's right there on the front. Lyle har de har har > -- > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > -- > what does the label say? The label doesn't say anything, you actually have to read it. >>what does the label say? >> > The label doesn't say anything, you actually have to read it. In spite of your constant denigration of me, my flaccid advice and supercilious "debate" style, I see you have a fine sense of humor. I slapped each of my knees repeatedly while reading your clever quip and for several moments thereafter. Nevertheless, you have my pity. (Insert gratuitously smarmy tag line here.) SignatureDr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Bare-Chested CardTrickologist http://www.heartmdphd.com > >>what does the label say? > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Bare-Chested CardTrickologist > http://www.heartmdphd.com Interesting. > what does the label say? I neglected to mention that the label lists lots of polysyllabic ingredients but no mention of the word "hydrogenated" which I understand is a process which creates "trans-fat". Can "trans-fat" be found in any other form or can I assume there is none in this product? Thanks, Sy SignaturePlease post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com >> what does the label say? > > I neglected to mention that the label lists lots of polysyllabic > ingredients but no mention of the word "hydrogenated" which I > understand is a process which creates "trans-fat". Yes. > Can "trans-fat" be found in any other form or can I assume there is > none in this product? Are there any fractionated oils in it? I think those also contain trans- fat. > Thanks, > > Sy I just checked the label again and found : " Fractionated Palm Kernel Oil" Can anyone explain how meaningful that is? > >> what does the label say? > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > > > Sy SignaturePlease post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com > I just checked the label again and found : > > " Fractionated Palm Kernel Oil" > > Can anyone explain how meaningful that is? Fractionation is the isolation of a particular part of the oil. They use it to increase or decrease the proportion of certain fatty acids in order to alter the melting point and behavior of the oil and products made from it. I'm not sure exactly how this affects the lipid profile, but it's a physical process and does not produce trans fatty acids. >I'm not sure exactly how this affects the lipid profile, but it's a physical >process and does not produce trans fatty acids. Rather the opposite. Used in order to remove omega-3 acids and transfats. The last one I agree about, but fractionating away the omega-3 to increase shelf time I disagree about since it increases the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio dramatically. If I remember correctly, soy oil in US is fractionated to remove the omega-3 oils :-( (a main reason why there is so little omega-3 in us diet) > > what does the label say? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Can "trans-fat" be found in any other form or can I assume there is > none in this product? I think you're safe if you don't see the word "hydrogenated." > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote > > > what does the label say? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I think you're safe if you don't see the word "hydrogenated." I thought you were safe if you didn't see the word "redrum". David > what does the label say? I thought that food manufacturers are not required to put the amount of trans fats in the labels of their products. Wasn't there a great deal of controversies over trans fats in Oreo cookies not long ago? If I remember correctly, laws were made to require the listing of trans fats but they will be active only a few years from now. Incidentally, I looked at the labels of some packages of ramen noodles and I found no mention of trans fats. But I am fairly certain that they contain trans fats. > > I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > -- if they contain fat, a good bet is that it is saturated. Otherwise they would go rancid on store shelves. i > I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sy What does the package say it has for shortening. > I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -- > I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > > I am trying to figure out whether they contain any significant amounts > of "trans-fat". > > Any comments will be appreciated. try reading the ingredients list. >I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Sy Personally I like my fats fully stacked with hydrogen. If you're going to oxidize you might as well do it right. > >I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Personally I like my fats fully stacked with hydrogen. If you're > going to oxidize you might as well do it right. Hmm, I hope you are joking. It is my understanding that trans fats may be a cause for heart diseases. > > Personally I like my fats fully stacked with hydrogen. If you're > > going to oxidize you might as well do it right. > > Hmm, I hope you are joking. It is my understanding that trans fats > may be a cause for heart diseases. Trans fats aren't fully stacked with hydrogen. That'd be saturated fat. > > MJL <jertschub@aol.com> wrote in message > news:<5ecbqv018ludquprhvd5tnc9juqspjrjir@4ax.com>... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Trans fats aren't fully stacked with hydrogen. That'd be saturated fat. Maybe so, but read the subject of the discussion. It is on trans fats. I will take saturated fats over trans fats any day. >Maybe so, but read the subject of the discussion. It is on trans >fats. I will take saturated fats over trans fats any day. Is that what causes those cellulite dents on your legs? > > > MJL <jertschub@aol.com> wrote in message > > news:<5ecbqv018ludquprhvd5tnc9juqspjrjir@4ax.com>... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Maybe so, but read the subject of the discussion. It is on trans > fats. I will take saturated fats over trans fats any day. Which means that you like your fats fully stacked with hydrogen. > > "Brandon Berg" <bberg@cesmail.net> wrote in message > news:<w%npb.67410$mZ5.428783@attbi_s54>... [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Which means that you like your fats fully stacked with hydrogen. Damn, why do people who can't read insist on using newsgroups? The fact that I prefer saturated fats over trans fats does not mean I take a lot of saturated fats, nor do I like or dislike saturated fats per se. It means that I don't sweat over a buttered toast, but I won't eat margarine. Got that yet? If you still don't understand this, I suggest English lessons. If you want to take trans fats, go ahead. You are doomed by the forces of natural selection anyway. > > > "Brandon Berg" <bberg@cesmail.net> wrote in message > > news:<w%npb.67410$mZ5.428783@attbi_s54>... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Damn, why do people who can't read insist on using newsgroups? Beats me. Let's try once more. Saturated fatty acids are fully stacked with hydrogen. Trans fatty acids are not. Ergo, one who likes his fats fully stacked with hydrogen prefers saturated fat to trans fat. This is lipid chemistry, not rocket science. Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I can put into my body? Answer probably not. It may be better than a snickers but is it the best thing you can consume. Eat to live don't live to eat and more important don't work to support your junk food bar company. That is what this bar is, junk food in a different wrapper. Eat an Apple, it's cheaper > I love NITRO-TECH bars because of their taste and protein content. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -- I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein. Regarding being "all natural", so are nightshade mushrooms and snake venom and lots of other things that can hurt you. The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the modern era. Sy > Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I can put > into my body? Answer probably not. It may be better than a snickers but is [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > -- SignaturePlease post and reply to sytech@yahoo.com > I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The appeal to "all natural" is the biggest bunch of bunk in the modern > era. While I agree with you that the term "all natural" is often a marketing ploy, there are so many examples that show that processed food is bad your you. Example, 1. Refined flour gets digested too quickly. 2. Sugar is bad for your teeth. 3. Trans Fats may cause cardiovascular diseases. Some of these examples are only known recently. So, a prudent strategy would be to be very cautious about processed food. It is all about risk management. I am placing my bets on foods that have not undergone major industrial processes. > Sy > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > > > > > -- > > I see your point. I eat lots of apples but they have no protein. > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > Sy OTOH, sometimes foods are improved to varying degrees by some level of processing (and indeed some "foods" are inedible or even toxic in their natural state). If you don't believe me, try eating an olive straight from the tree. August Pamplona SignatureThe waterfall in Java is not wet. - omegazero2003 on m.f.w. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with 'cosmicaug' > > > Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I can put > > > into my body? Answer probably not. It may be better than a snickers but is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > > > > > Sy > > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:<031120030451205760%sytech@yahoo.com>... [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > August Pamplona Point well taken. I will also try not to lick any colorful toad I come across. I will not invest in junk bonds and I promise not to run any red lights. Also, I won't take any of those high tech fats substitutes either. It is simple risk management. I don't do things that I believe have an elevated chance of hurting me. Some people bungle jump, I don't. People have different levels risk tolerance. George Burns lived over 100 smoking cigars and he seemed reasonably happy, but that does not mean I am going to start smoking. My attitude towards highly processed food is similar to strangers hanging outside my door late at night. I tend to be cautious about them. > > > > Ask yourself a better question. Is this bar the best thing that I > can put [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > > > > > > > > Sy >> > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:<031120030451205760%sytech@yahoo.com>... [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >hanging outside my door late at night. I tend to be cautious about >them. Acorns were a staple of the Native American diet, but they have to be processed, as well. Water soaking is needed to leach out the tannins before grinding into flour. Proton Soup > >"August Pamplona" <necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale@mail.com> wrote in message news:<4%Gpb.6727$qh2.4557@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>... > >> > <sytech@yahoo.com> wrote in message > >> news:<031120030451205760%sytech@yahoo.com>... [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Proton Soup The same sort of thing is true, believe it or not, of somehing as mundane as maize. Corn meal is more nutricious when alkali processed. Native Americans knew to treat corn meal in this way. Others didn't. The result was a deficiency of niacin (known as pellagra) among poor folk who subsisted mainly on maize. And, by the way, I agree with the person I was responding to. I was just pointing out that taken to its logical extreme it doesn't really work either (those who really do take it to that absurd extreme are raw food cultists). August Pamplona SignatureThe waterfall in Java is not wet. - omegazero2003 on m.f.w. a.a. # 1811 apatriot #20 Eater of smut To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with 'cosmicaug' > The same sort of thing is true, believe it or not, of somehing as >mundane as maize. Corn meal is more nutricious when alkali processed. >Native Americans knew to treat corn meal in this way. Others didn't. The >result was a deficiency of niacin (known as pellagra) among poor folk >who subsisted mainly on maize. Just curious, what is the primitive way to alkali process corn? I knew about pellagra, but didn't realize there was a way to avoid it other than to limit the amount of corn in the diet. Proton Soup >> The same sort of thing is true, believe it or not, of somehing as >>mundane as maize. Corn meal is more nutricious when alkali processed. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Proton Soup Soak it in ashes + water, iirc. luv acorn pancake but did not know that thing about corn plodzilla > > >"August Pamplona" <necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale@mail.com> > wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 78 lines] > To email replace 'necatoramericanusancylostomaduodenale' with > 'cosmicaug' |
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