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determined - 05 Nov 2003 17:49 GMT
It's been a year since I joined a gym and started trying to improve my
health in earnest.  A year ago, I weighed about 147, and wore size 10-12
pants.  I now weigh 128 (up from my summer low of 119), and wear size 4-6
pants.  My bf % a year ago was about 28%, and today it's 24%.  I keep saying
that I want to go to the gym 3 x per week, but it's only happening twice a
week.  For me, it's time to re-focus, and set some new goals.  Here they
are...

1. go to the gym 3 x per week
2. drop bodyfat down to 20-22%
3. cut back on junk food
4. ski at least once a week until April
4. squat 180

I see these goals as hindered somewhat by the upcoming holiday season, but
it'll be good to have these goals in place for newyears!  I actually hate
new year's resolutions, because I've never kept one past the end of January.
Michelle Guy - 05 Nov 2003 19:03 GMT
Love your fourth goal, as an avid skier myself I wish you great
weather and even better snow.
Michelle
Ozzie in Switzerland

WW WI 69.8 / 63.1 / 61kg 134 lbs

>It's been a year since I joined a gym and started trying to improve my
>health in earnest.  A year ago, I weighed about 147, and wore size 10-12
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>it'll be good to have these goals in place for newyears!  I actually hate
>new year's resolutions, because I've never kept one past the end of January.
Jayjay - 05 Nov 2003 19:21 GMT
n Wed, 5 Nov 2003 09:49:54 -0800, "determined" <btsylyn@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>It's been a year since I joined a gym and started trying to improve my
>health in earnest.  A year ago, I weighed about 147, and wore size 10-12
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>it'll be good to have these goals in place for newyears!  I actually hate
>new year's resolutions, because I've never kept one past the end of January.

I never keep mine past the end of January 1.   :-)  

I'll chime in my goals:

1.  Cardio 3x per week
2.  Get thy a.s to the gym for the weights 2x per week
3.  Keep bf% below 24, keep weight below 130.
4.  Decrease my mile to less than 8mins
5.  Build up endurance for a 5k and run one on a fairly competitive
level.
determined - 05 Nov 2003 19:45 GMT
> I never keep mine past the end of January 1.   :-)
>
> I'll chime in my goals:
>
> 1.  Cardio 3x per week
> 2.  Get thy a.s to the gym for the weights 2x per week

Out of curiosity, are your weight workouts full body?  How long does it take
you, and would you share your routine?  I'm asking because I'm doing a full
body that takes between 30-45 min, and I wonder if I'm not putting enough
into it.  But I only do squats, dl's, lat pull down, bench press, and
sometimes seated cable rows.  This seems to hit the whole body, and I like
the quickness of it, but I'm really not sure that I'm getting and adequate
workout.  I generally do 3-4 sets each.

det
Jayjay - 05 Nov 2003 19:50 GMT
>> I never keep mine past the end of January 1.   :-)
>>
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>
>det

I generally do full body workouts.   (when I actually do them).  

At home - generally it takes 30 - 45 mins.

At the Y - on the machines it can take 45 - 60 mins - mainly because
of adjusting the machines.

Workouts - I certainly find that Krista's workouts work well.
Chris Braun - 05 Nov 2003 21:47 GMT
>Out of curiosity, are your weight workouts full body?  How long does it take
>you, and would you share your routine?  I'm asking because I'm doing a full
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>the quickness of it, but I'm really not sure that I'm getting and adequate
>workout.  I generally do 3-4 sets each.

I know you asked Jayjay, but IMHO this is a fine routine.  That's
assuming you're making an effort to challenge yourself by increasing
the weight you're lifting, but I expect you are from things you've
said.  You might want to add some crunches or something for the abs.
And you might consider some shoulder presses or military presses.  (I
don't think you need to do arm isolation exercises for biceps and
triceps; the compound lifts work those pretty well.)

Chris
determined - 05 Nov 2003 22:02 GMT
> >Out of curiosity, are your weight workouts full body?  How long does it take
> >you, and would you share your routine?  I'm asking because I'm doing a full
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> don't think you need to do arm isolation exercises for biceps and
> triceps; the compound lifts work those pretty well.)

Oh, your opinion counts too!  And my lifts have been increasing pretty well.
I alternate 2 weeks of  high weight low reps (4x5) with 2 weeks of lower
weight higher reps (4x12).  I'm currently squatting 135... YUP!  That's the
bar with the 2 big ones!  Pretty happy about that.  Of course, I don't do
sets of 12 at that weight yet.  My bench still sucks at 65lbs, and my dl is
even with my squat.  I'm pulling down 70lbs with the lat pulldown, when I
can pull down 100 I'll graduate to chinups...

det
Wendy - 05 Nov 2003 23:06 GMT
> And you might consider some shoulder presses or military presses.  (I
> don't think you need to do arm isolation exercises for biceps and
> triceps; the compound lifts work those pretty well.)

I really like the gravitron for assisted chins and dips.  

I was using the rowing machine today after dark and the window was
reflecting my image back at me (I rarely go to the gym in the dark and I
usually gaze out at the mountains through that window so this was a new
thing for me.)  I was entranced by my arm and shoulder muscles.  They were
visible at 20 feet away!

Wendy, falling in love with herself
A Ross - 05 Nov 2003 21:20 GMT
> For me, it's time to re-focus, and set some new goals.  Here they
> are...
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> new year's resolutions, because I've never kept one past the end of
> January.

Here are my current goals:

1. Gym four days a week to lift. Cardio after if there's time (there's
always time).
2. Pilates class, three days a week. Kids sport schedules is beginning
to interfere--must find a way to make it happen.
3. Stay out of the damn holiday-food trap.
4. Start using the cageandbar setup for squatting. The DB's are
beginning to wear on my wrists (30 lbs each hand, 3x10).
5. Continue to eat healthy foods.
6. Quit weighing and worrying daily.

Amy (113 and holding...)
Ignoramus14934 - 05 Nov 2003 21:26 GMT
>> For me, it's time to re-focus, and set some new goals.  Here they
>> are...
> Here are my current goals:

Here are mine:

- Maintain my weight loss, maybe lose no more than one pound per month

- Keep walking to train

- resume running (I have to stay with the kid as my wife works
overtime in the last few days)

- Keep resistance training

i
223/176/180
Jayjay - 05 Nov 2003 21:35 GMT
>- resume running (I have to stay with the kid as my wife works
>overtime in the last few days)

put the kid in a stroller and take him running with you.   He's still
small enough for that and would love the QT w/ dad
Ignoramus14934 - 05 Nov 2003 23:32 GMT
>>- resume running (I have to stay with the kid as my wife works
>>overtime in the last few days)
>
> put the kid in a stroller and take him running with you.   He's still
> small enough for that and would love the QT w/ dad

Does not sound like a safe, fun thing to do. By the time I get home it
is already dark. Maybe I will run tomorrow in the morning, will just
get up at 4:20 instead of 5:07.

i
JayJay - 05 Nov 2003 23:35 GMT
> >>- resume running (I have to stay with the kid as my wife works
> >>overtime in the last few days)
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>
> i

Well, that is what I do now.   Although I also get home after dark and its
6:30pm and i'm about to go take the dog for a run in the dark...  Not much
of a choice when it gets darks so early.
Daniel - 05 Nov 2003 21:45 GMT
> > For me, it's time to re-focus, and set some new goals.  Here they
> > are...
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>
> Amy (113 and holding...)

My goals for next year...

1.  Obtain my goal weight.
2.  Feel comfortable taking my shirt off in public by summer.
3.  Be able to bench 285 (reps at 220 right now)
4.  Maintain not smoking.
5.  Spend more time with my friends and loved ones.

Dan - 305/288/220
determined - 05 Nov 2003 22:04 GMT
"A Ross" <ar18nospam@cornell.edu> wrote in message news:ar18nospam-
> Here are my current goals:
>
> 1. Gym four days a week to lift. Cardio after if there's time (there's
> always time).

I know dammit!  I really should incorporate cardio into my workout...

> 2. Pilates class, three days a week. Kids sport schedules is beginning
> to interfere--must find a way to make it happen.
> 3. Stay out of the damn holiday-food trap.

So, I shouldn't send fudge?

> 4. Start using the cageandbar setup for squatting. The DB's are
> beginning to wear on my wrists (30 lbs each hand, 3x10).

This is something I recently "graduated" to.  And I love it!  Squatting with
a bar across your back is alot different IMO from using dumbells.  Once you
get the hang of it, it's not as complicated as it seems at first.

> 5. Continue to eat healthy foods.

I need to cut out the brownies...

> 6. Quit weighing and worrying daily.
>
> Amy (113 and holding...)

I'd like to lose about 5-7lbs.

det
Jayjay - 05 Nov 2003 22:10 GMT
>"A Ross" <ar18nospam@cornell.edu> wrote in message news:ar18nospam-
>> Here are my current goals:
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>
>I know dammit!  I really should incorporate cardio into my workout...

And I've been the opposite - with more cardio and only bodyweight
barring exercises and not enough weights lately.

>I need to cut out the brownies...

I need help w/ the candy jars at work again.  (and its the wrapped
stuff to - so I can't gross myself with the unwashed hands theory).  

As well as the icecream and late night snacking.

>I'd like to lose about 5-7lbs.

ditto.   But I'm not in a "must do this now" mode yet over those few
little pounds.
determined - 05 Nov 2003 22:23 GMT
> As well as the icecream and late night snacking.

I love ice cream - well, you already knew that!  But I found an answer to
the evening icecream craving.  I finally found a really yummy tasting
vanilla protein - it's at costco, and 6 lbs was like $22, cheap.  I blend a
scoop of this with ice, nonfat milk and peanut butter.  300 calories I know,
but I just break up my meals and calories more so this is like an evening
meal.  But it doubles as a peanut butter milk shake.  And a squirt of the
sugar free hersheys is really good.

> >I'd like to lose about 5-7lbs.
>
> ditto.   But I'm not in a "must do this now" mode yet over those few
> little pounds.

I figure skiing will take care of it.  If it would only snow, dammit!  I'm
doing my make-it-snow dance as we speak...

det
JayJay - 05 Nov 2003 22:59 GMT
> > As well as the icecream and late night snacking.
>
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> meal.  But it doubles as a peanut butter milk shake.  And a squirt of the
> sugar free hersheys is really good.

Actually - I find that if I don't eat in the late evenings I fair out better
on the scale than if I do...  so if I do any icecream eating, i'm now doing
it mid day at work.

> > >I'd like to lose about 5-7lbs.
> >
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> I figure skiing will take care of it.  If it would only snow, dammit!  I'm
> doing my make-it-snow dance as we speak...

You can keep your cold white stuff.   Skiing is fun - but its too cold.
MH - 06 Nov 2003 04:03 GMT
> I need help w/ the candy jars at work again.  (and its the wrapped
> stuff to - so I can't gross myself with the unwashed hands theory).

This was a reality check for me...I love Butterfingers. I mean, they're my
favs. So, when at work we had a bag of the *fun size*, I ate 4 (!!!) of them
Monday during the day. I found out on fitday that they are 100 cals each!!!
Compared to the hard candy, which is about 30 cals each (and 1 piece of hard
candy will satiate my sweet tooth), I was messed up. So, now I have one
piece of hard candy when I get the urge and completely avoid the little
candy bars.

Martha
MH - 06 Nov 2003 04:00 GMT
Nice thread!

Here are my goals:

1) continue losing weight (20 more pounds to go...)
2) learn to climb!!!
3) get back into skiing
4) follow nutritious guidelines. (Side note: I've been doing some studying
up on nutrition , vitamins, etc.)
5) have positive outlook and self and world : )

Martha
A Ross - 06 Nov 2003 13:03 GMT
> So, I shouldn't send fudge?

I would never refuse fudge!! Mail away!

Amy (gaining pounds just thinking of fudge...mmmm, fudge)
Julianne - 05 Nov 2003 22:44 GMT
A year ago, I weighed 155ish and now I am at a modest 140ish.  I was wearing
12's consistently and now can wear eights with no problem.  However, I still
have a ways to go.

My goals for the immediate future include:

1.  Accelerating weight loss.  My BF is off to CO for a couple of weeks and
my other eating out friend is away on business until Thanksgiving so no
excuses.
2.  Continue to work on upper body strength.  My goal is to be able to
consistently do 50 'real' pushups.  Sometimes I make it, sometimes, I don't.
The muscles that are worked by pushups really help with a chronic neck
problem.
3.  Continue to do my treadmill.  I have been not resetting the time each
week and get excited when I get over 200 minutes cumulative in a week.  I
would like to make that 300 minutes.
4.  Concentrate on abdominal strength as I have poor posture.
5.  Get as much work done by the end of the year as possible so that I can
take considerable time off at the holidays.
6.  I am considering buying a body fat scale and setting body fat goals.

j
> It's been a year since I joined a gym and started trying to improve my
> health in earnest.  A year ago, I weighed about 147, and wore size 10-12
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> it'll be good to have these goals in place for newyears!  I actually hate
> new year's resolutions, because I've never kept one past the end of January.
MH - 06 Nov 2003 13:12 GMT
> 4.  Concentrate on abdominal strength as I have poor posture.

As soon as you said this, I straightened up in my chair. It was a good
reminder. : )

Martha
Wendy - 06 Nov 2003 13:01 GMT
> "Julianne" <juli882nospam@cox.net> wrote in message
>> 4.  Concentrate on abdominal strength as I have poor posture.

> As soon as you said this, I straightened up in my chair. It was a good
> reminder. : )

Me, too!

Wendy, acting like a puppeteer has yanked a string on her head
Julianne - 06 Nov 2003 18:51 GMT
Yep.  Found myself slumped over when I read your replies:)

j
> > "Julianne" <juli882nospam@cox.net> wrote in message
> >> 4.  Concentrate on abdominal strength as I have poor posture.
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>
> Wendy, acting like a puppeteer has yanked a string on her head
Jennifer A - 08 Nov 2003 14:08 GMT
> It's been a year since I joined a gym and started trying to improve my
> health in earnest.  A year ago, I weighed about 147, and wore size 10-12
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> it'll be good to have these goals in place for newyears!  I actually hate
> new year's resolutions, because I've never kept one past the end of January.

Writing out your goals is a great way to help meet them.  I keep mine on my
Palm pilot, and I have them printed out and hanging on my desk for my
students to see and in my home office so I don't lose sight of them.  It's
nice to check them off as you reach them too :)
Anglea Woollcombe - 09 Nov 2003 21:32 GMT
Hi everybody

my name is angie and i am new to this group. i have been following weight
watchers since march 2003 and i have lost 30 lbs i went from 152.5 lbs to
125lbs . i reached my goal weight on sept 11 it took me 7 months to get
there. it also took alot of hard work. but it was worth it. do to some
stress that i had gone threw in sept how ever i have started to gain some of
my weight back. so far it is only been 7lbs i have lost 2lbs of the 7lbs but
i have also decided that since i was able to make it to the weight of 125lbs
which i never thought i would ever be down to. i am going to try to go for
115lbs. i am 5'4 in height and although my healthy weight should be between
115lbs and 135lbs according to weight watchers.  i am in a wedding in may
and i want to look my best. i stll have a stomach that i would like to get
ride of and no matter what i try it is still there. i was wondering if
anyone had a any ideas on some exercises that i could do to get ride of
them??????  anyway , just thought i would introduce myself and tell u a
little about me. oh yah i am also 28yrs old and live in ottawa ontario.

thanks in advanced for any and all help.

angie
Patricia Heil - 09 Nov 2003 22:59 GMT
Weight Watchers is supposed to be good at helping their members
keep weight off -- the only commercial plan that succeeded at
this in an FTC study some years ago.  What have they told you?

Have you been doing ab crunches?  Have you been to a gym where
you can work with weights?  What else are you doing for
exercise?

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Julianne - 10 Nov 2003 17:14 GMT
It seems like weight watchers worked for you as far as losing weight but
ongoing weight management requires more than a 'diet'.

What are you doing for exercise?  What kinds of foods are you eating?  Why
not go to FitDay.com and see how your food intake looks on some of their
graphs.  I am not disciplined enough to do Fitday everyday but when I
plateau, it is always interesting to see what I am eating broken down.
Sometimes, the carbs get out of hand and other times the fat does.

What's your social life like?  Do your social outings revolve around food?
That's a big thing for me.  I am continually trying to find new ways to be
with friends that doesn't involve food.  My two very thin friends are most
uninterested in doing anything after work but meeting for drinks and
appetizers.  I make it a point to eat something before I go meet them.  If I
spend just a little time on the treadmill, I get an extra mental boost to
turn my nose up at potato skins.

j

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Anglea Woollcombe - 11 Nov 2003 04:38 GMT
i eat some red meat not alot . i eat mostly chicken and tuna. try to get in
my veggies and my fruit. i don't go out very much do to lack of money and
friends not living in the same place as i do. as for exercise i do alot of
walking mostly outside. trying to get back to doing my watp's videos but it
is hard as i am starting to work mid nights soon and will need to sleep when
i am not working.
  but i will try my best. i would love any ideas for exercises that i can
do at home that r easy and not time comsuming. TIA

angie
> It seems like weight watchers worked for you as far as losing weight but
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Beverly - 11 Nov 2003 12:46 GMT
> i eat some red meat not alot . i eat mostly chicken and tuna. try to get in
> my veggies and my fruit. i don't go out very much do to lack of money and
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>
> angie

http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html

Working out with weights would be a great addition to your exercise
routine.  The above site has excellent information. You don't need a lot of
expensive equipment - just start with some dumbbells or use something from
around the house.

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Anglea Woollcombe - 11 Nov 2003 17:07 GMT
thanks i'll check it out. i'm not sure what and how much exercise i can do
becasue i am going to be starting to work mid nights soon right now i am
doing 3-11 getting my training in.  once that is over with i will start my
new shift. but i will look into it

angie

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Brad Sheppard - 11 Nov 2003 17:25 GMT
Great job losing weight!  Re: stomach - spot reduction doesn't work -
however, for me, poor posture makes my belly appear larger than it is.
Situps can help posture, check websites for correct way to do them
(otherwise you can hurt your neck).  If you have poor posture there
are ways to try to correct it.  To reduce overall bodyfat weight
training can help - you can buy dumbells and do so at home if you
wish.

> i eat some red meat not alot . i eat mostly chicken and tuna. try to get in
> my veggies and my fruit. i don't go out very much do to lack of money and
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SnugBear - 12 Nov 2003 01:29 GMT
> Great job losing weight!  Re: stomach - spot reduction doesn't work -
> however, for me, poor posture makes my belly appear larger than it is.
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> training can help - you can buy dumbells and do so at home if you
> wish.

Pilates improved my posture 100%.  I've used 2 Winsor tapes for almost a
year now.  It works.

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SnugBear - 12 Nov 2003 01:27 GMT
> i eat some red meat not alot . i eat mostly chicken and tuna. try to get in
> my veggies and my fruit. i don't go out very much do to lack of money and
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>
> angie

Angie, to a certain extent, exercise *needs* to be time consuming.  You
can't eat while you're doing it.  And while you're exercising, putting the
time in, you realize just how hard you need to work to melt the fat off -
that should help motivate you to not stray from your WOE.  Learn to love it
or if you can't - fully realize that even if it's not fun, exercise is a
large piece of our puzzle.

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Anglea Woollcombe - 12 Nov 2003 20:58 GMT
it's not that i don't like to exercise i do and where did the idea that i
eat while i exercise i don't i know that working out be a healthier person
is alot of work i have done it off and on for yrs i went to gyms reliously
when i lived in my old town. i work out at home. it's just that right now i
have to wait until i start my new hrs at work beofr5e i can make any kind of
commitment to a work out schedule. i am going to be working over night. i
need to get my body adjusted to the time change before i can think about
exercising and when i do start it will be doing things at home on my own
prob before i go to bed after working mid night shifts.
angie

> > i eat some red meat not alot . i eat mostly chicken and tuna. try to get
> in
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> or if you can't - fully realize that even if it's not fun, exercise is a
> large piece of our puzzle.
SnugBear - 13 Nov 2003 01:07 GMT
> it's not that i don't like to exercise i do and where did the idea that i
> eat while i exercise i don't i know that working out be a healthier person
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> prob before i go to bed after working mid night shifts.
> angie

Gee angie, I was responding to this:

> i would love any ideas for exercises that i can do at home that r easy and
not time comsuming

That sounded to me like you wanted some *magic exercise* that was both easy
and didn't take up too much of your time.  I'm sorry if I misunderstood.
You'll have to find what's best for you and your schedule.  I walk for 30
minutes at "lunchtime" and another 30 after supper.  That's easy and not
time consuming for me. YMMV

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Gloria - 09 Nov 2003 21:41 GMT
To reach goal next year . To do walking after dinner and to lose about
one or two lbs each week. I can not do much when it comes to exercise
but I walk a lot at my four day a week job. Keeping active is my biggest
goal!!

ciao,

glo
 
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