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Ignoramus28586 - 08 Nov 2003 16:39 GMT

It is a little cold (30f) but I have a great opportunity to go due to
wife and kid visiting grandma... Life is good...

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Julianne - 08 Nov 2003 17:26 GMT

What are you shooting?

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> It is a little cold (30f) but I have a great opportunity to go due to
> wife and kid visiting grandma... Life is good...
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Perple Gyrl - 07 Nov 2003 20:43 GMT

no comment lol.

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Ignoramus28586 - 08 Nov 2003 23:07 GMT

> What are you shooting?

[back from the range]

I took three rifles, one 7.62x39 AK clone, another was a
Russian/Finnish reworked Mosin Nagant, and another was a very high
powered 7mm remington magnum.

First I went to the 100m range and shot newer, nicer ammo from the
Mosin Nagant. Had nice 5" groups with it. Remember that this Mosin
Nagant is a 70 year old battle rifle (used extensively in WWII), so
this kind of performance in the hands of a mediocre shooter like me
was great. I tried the 7mm rifle, but after I lost so much fat that
served as a cushion before, I could not stand the recoil, so I gave
up.

At the shooting range there is a "pit", which is a huge pit full of
mud and puddles. There there are mostly people with AR-15 and
Kalashnikovs and SKS rifles blasting those puddles. People throw trash
in it and then shoot at it. Every bullet that falls in puddles creates
a 20 foot tall fountain of mud, very fun. Had some nice conversations
with other people over there.

The Mosin Nagant was a blast at the pit as well, I had a ton of cheap
ammunition for it. Think about it, you can buy real high powered
ammunition for less than 10 cents a round. Hard to beat
price/performance for it. A guy next to me was a history buff and I
think he wants to buy a similar rifle for himself now.

Altogether it was a great relaxation day and rest from mundane
household stuff. I wish I could take our nanny with us as she used to
be a high profile competition shooter. But her religion that she took
up forbids her from handling guns, sadly. What a pity.

Now I need to clean up lots of leaves from my yard... Back to regular
life...

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>> wife and kid visiting grandma... Life is good...
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Julianne - 09 Nov 2003 03:52 GMT

How fun!

I am not a gun nut but am surrounded by them daily! However, I will do
anything competitive and for my crowd, that involves shooting. I like the
.22's. They are girl guns and easy to shoot. After hitting the bullseye
several times, they become boring.... I have also shot a number of .44's
including a glock. It is not a pleasant experience. Too much noise and
kick back. My biggest thrill was when we were all speculating about the DC
snipers. My contention was that they must have been a terrific shot to be
so dead on with a 223(?). That was when I was given the semi automatic
rifle to shoot. From 200 yards away with no experience, I was dead on
accurate. It is a powerful feeling but not something that I would want to
hunt with for obvious reasons. I shoot it every chance I get for reasons I
cannot explain.

My latest passion is a compound bow that my BF's son shoots with. At lower
intensities, I am extremely accurate. When there are 50 or more pounds, I
lose my accuracy. I am doing pushups to remedy that now. Hunting season
starts the weekend before Thanksgiving for us and I have a tag for a buck.
I will likely not use it but if I am up in a stand with a bow and a buck
wanders into my view, I don't know if I could resist.

Meanwhile, the camp has both bass and catfish in abundance. Although I am
allergic, there is never any shortage of folks who will eat my fish!

I have mixed feelings regarding guns as a nurse who has taken care of
numerous accidental gunshot wounds but most do not occur in hunters or 'gun
nuts' who practice regularly. And although we are quite legal to carry
concealed weapons in our state, it hasn't been a problem. Give an
inexperienced person a gun and you have a problem..........

j

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Ignoramus28586 - 09 Nov 2003 04:25 GMT

> How fun!
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> I am not a gun nut but am surrounded by them daily! However, I will do
> anything competitive and for my crowd, that involves shooting. I like the
> .22's. They are girl guns and easy to shoot.

That's great.

Now our nanny, who is from the former USSR, is a former competitive
shooter, believe it or not. She could put me to shame, but that's not
very embarrassing since she is a known well practiced expert. What is
more embarrassing is that my wife is about as good as I am at
shooting, even though she almost never practiced (not due to the lack
of opportunity).

> After hitting the bullseye
> several times, they become boring.... I have also shot a number of .44's
> including a glock. It is not a pleasant experience. Too much noise and
> kick back.

No doubt. I fully sympathize. I do not like handguns myself, not that
I mind others shooting them, but some rifles also have too much
kickback.

> My biggest thrill was when we were all speculating about the DC
> snipers. My contention was that they must have been a terrific shot to be
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> hunt with for obvious reasons. I shoot it every chance I get for reasons I
> cannot explain.

I see. I never hunt myself because I feel pity for animals, but I did
go hunting where others were hunting.

> My latest passion is a compound bow that my BF's son shoots with. At lower
> intensities, I am extremely accurate. When there are 50 or more pounds, I
> lose my accuracy. I am doing pushups to remedy that now. Hunting season
> starts the weekend before Thanksgiving for us and I have a tag for a buck.
> I will likely not use it but if I am up in a stand with a bow and a buck
> wanders into my view, I don't know if I could resist.

I am extremely impressed Julianne. Almost envious.

> Meanwhile, the camp has both bass and catfish in abundance. Although I am
> allergic, there is never any shortage of folks who will eat my fish!
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> concealed weapons in our state, it hasn't been a problem. Give an
> inexperienced person a gun and you have a problem..........

Absolutely. I am very strict with gun safety and never keep loaded
guns. They are all locked up. However they can be retrieved and loaded
very quickly.

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Julianne - 10 Nov 2003 17:45 GMT

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> shooting, even though she almost never practiced (not due to the lack
> of opportunity).

Shooting is a kewl sport because there is no edge depending gender.

> > After hitting the bullseye
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> I mind others shooting them, but some rifles also have too much
> kickback.

Rifles are more difficult to handle. And for small people, the kickback can
be intimidating. It gets to where as I hold the gun setting up a shot, I am
already anticipating the kickback. I do not like it.

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> > snipers. My contention was that they must have been a terrific shot to be
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> I see. I never hunt myself because I feel pity for animals, but I did
> go hunting where others were hunting.

I have no blood lust either but your argument is flawed. Shooting a deer
who has had the run of a typical hunting camp with crops grown just for deer
consumption and the entire environment tailored for their needs is far nicer
than what happens to a typical cow. Commercial chicken farms are even
worse. The difference is that we get to choose to ignore the violence and
the living conditions of store bought meat prior to purchase. But, I'm
right there with you... I would prefer my meat to come packaged on
styrofoam trays and wrapped in cellophane.

> > My latest passion is a compound bow that my BF's son shoots with. At lower
> > intensities, I am extremely accurate. When there are 50 or more pounds, I
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> I am extremely impressed Julianne. Almost envious.

The bow is terrific. It involves much more than shooting with a gun. It
requires strength, patience and longer periods of concentration. I may or
may not go for a deer this year. I would have to greatly improve my
accuracy in order to be reasonably assured of a clean kill. I have no
desire to torture an animal. Still, regardless, I have tons of fun shooting
at a target. It is also fun because BF's kid loves to teach me how to
shoot. It is easy to find things to do with his daughter because she is
like I was at her age in many ways. His son is very different from my own
son who was into sports at his age and has no taste for the outdoor life if
it doesn't involve team sports.

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> guns. They are all locked up. However they can be retrieved and loaded
> very quickly.

It's largely a cultural thing. I am horrified when it comes to guns laying
around with ammo for days but this is the way at most hunting camps. Boys
here learn gun safety in grammar school. I never touched a gun until I was
in high school and I thought my Mom would die when she heard that one her
friends allowed us to shoot. It is a different world in the land of
'rednecks'.

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Ignoramus6554 - 10 Nov 2003 17:54 GMT

>> > How fun!
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> Shooting is a kewl sport because there is no edge depending gender.

Well, I think that women have an edge, maybe small but real. Women are
better shooters.

>> No doubt. I fully sympathize. I do not like handguns myself, not that
>> I mind others shooting them, but some rifles also have too much
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> be intimidating. It gets to where as I hold the gun setting up a shot, I am
> already anticipating the kickback. I do not like it.

I understand. It is a question of degree, not principle. Heavier
rifles have less kickback.

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>> > snipers. My contention was that they must have been a terrific shot to
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> right there with you... I would prefer my meat to come packaged on
> styrofoam trays and wrapped in cellophane.

I have devoted considerable thought to this issue. I know that it is
irrational in the sense that when I buy dead animals for my
consumption, I underwrite their death that is as horrible as any death
in Nazi gas chambers. But, I look at it from the standpoint of my own
sanity. I once killed a dove when I was a teen and I was so repulsed
that I no longer want to kill anything. Maybe not completely, but I
prefer to throw bugs out of the house rather than kill them, if I
can. Some bugs are hard to catch and those I kill. I just feel like
killing for fun is not for me. When my chickens get old, I think that
I will slaughter them to get new ones, but I do not think that I will
enjoy it.

>> > My latest passion is a compound bow that my BF's son shoots with. At
>> I am extremely impressed Julianne. Almost envious.
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> son who was into sports at his age and has no taste for the outdoor
> life if it doesn't involve team sports.

Amazing what they have done to bows lately. I saw some at gun shows
and was really tempted to buy.

> It's largely a cultural thing. I am horrified when it comes to guns laying
> around with ammo for days but this is the way at most hunting camps. Boys
> here learn gun safety in grammar school. I never touched a gun until I was
> in high school and I thought my Mom would die when she heard that one her
> friends allowed us to shoot. It is a different world in the land of
> 'rednecks'.

Yep, I lived in Oklahoma for awhile and picked some of their "gun
culture" over there.

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