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Mary M/Ohio - 01 Mar 2005 17:18 GMT
An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
FitDay and ended up at about 1800 calories, which isn't so terrible for the
challenge, since one meal was a breakfast buffet -- eeek).

Anyway, as I was experiencing some anxiety about what I had eaten, what I
was going to eat, what would happen to my FitDay numbers if I ate too much,
how I would feel if I couldn't fit into my too-small bridesmaid dress for a
wedding June 9 -- the old spiraling thoughts that often lead to
anxiety-induced overeating, a thought came to me that nearly made me put on
the brakes in my car -- it definitely put the brakes on the spiraling
anxiety.

I had been overweight for nearly all my life, and was over 200 lbs. for 22
years. The thought that arrested me was that this new weight loss is like a
baby I have to protect. I've been at my current weight for less than two
years, so my weight loss is like a toddler that needs lots of guidance and
love and protection. If I had a toddler, would I let her loose in a grocery
store to pick her own choices? No. Would I let her

I realize this isn't very well expressed, but it totally changed my thinking
of going from being afraid about my weight loss (i.e. not being able to
maintain it) to moving toward a protective state of mind, where I will not
let something interfere if it is going to hurt "my baby." Perhaps this is a
delayed maternal instinct coming about :-) -- but changing my thoughts has
helped me change my behavior. For instance, on the way home from dinner
Sunday, I really really really wanted something sweet and was fully planning
on stopping at the convenience store since they now stock sugarfree
chocolate (thanks a lot for the 24-hour temptation). Anyway, I focused back
on the thought of the 18-month-old -- am I going to let her loose in the
convenience store in the state she's in (a little tipsy and really wanting
chocolate) -- so I told "her" that if she skipped the convenience store, she
could have sugarfree hot chocolate once we got home. And it worked. To those
who might not understand, I know it can sound a bit demented or Sybil-ish to
treat my weight loss as a separate entity, but I say anything that works has
a place! :-)

Mary
Chris - 01 Mar 2005 18:10 GMT
Mary, I think this is a very insightful post -- and well-expressed too
:-).  I think the way of thinking that works for me is a little bit
similar -- I kind of hold onto the idea of myself as an athlete
(whether I really am or not :-) ), and eat to support/protect that
image of myself.

Chris
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:26 GMT
> Mary, I think this is a very insightful post -- and well-expressed too
> :-).  I think the way of thinking that works for me is a little bit
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>
> Chris

Thanks, Chris! That is a great viewpoint too -- I have not thought of myself
as an athlete yet :-)  It definitely puts a different spin on things!

Mary
Michelle Guy - 01 Mar 2005 18:23 GMT
This makes perfect sence to me
Glad you found a way to help yourself stay on track
Michelle Ozzie in  Switzerland
70.4/71/60 Starting again 24.11.04

>An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
>driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
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>
>Mary
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:26 GMT
> This makes perfect sence to me
> Glad you found a way to help yourself stay on track
> Michelle Ozzie in  Switzerland

Thank you, Michelle!

Mary
Carol Frilegh - 01 Mar 2005 18:31 GMT
> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
> FitDay and ended up at about 1800 calories, which isn't so terrible for the
> challenge, since one meal was a breakfast buffet -- eeek).

Great simile Mary, but weight loss as a toddler is  like a miniature
poodle. It always needs protection and never outgrows the toddler
stage. I used to think that once at Ideal Weight, someone would spritz
me with hair spray and I'd stay perfect. The job was just beginning but
it is not a boring challenge and keeps me on my toes trying to zip up
the small size pants and the ever open mouth.

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Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:27 GMT
>> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
>> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything
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> poodle. It always needs protection and never outgrows the toddler
> stage.

Darn, I was hoping that past 18 years she'd take care of herself :-)

>I used to think that once at Ideal Weight, someone would spritz
> me with hair spray and I'd stay perfect. The job was just beginning but
> it is not a boring challenge and keeps me on my toes trying to zip up
> the small size pants and the ever open mouth.

Great turn of phrase -- as usual, Carol! Thanks!

Mary
Nuclear Girl - 01 Mar 2005 19:14 GMT
> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was

> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
> FitDay and ended up at about 1800 calories, which isn't so terrible for the
> challenge, since one meal was a breakfast buffet -- eeek).

Way to go, Mary.  I've found that recording stuff on FitDay has really
helped me decide the type of foods to eat to maintain "my" daily
balance.

> I had been overweight for nearly all my life, and was over 200 lbs. for 22
> years. The thought that arrested me was that this new weight loss is like a
> baby I have to protect.

Makes perfect sense to me.  I've been over 300 for at least 10 years,
and haven't seen the underside of 250 in over 15 years.  The weight
loss is something to be cherished and protected.  I like this analogy

> I realize this isn't very well expressed, but it totally changed my thinking
> of going from being afraid about my weight loss (i.e. not being able to
> maintain it) to moving toward a protective state of mind, where I will not
> let something interfere if it is going to hurt "my baby."

IMHO, very well put.  It's like my fear of foods previously omitted
from my program.  I ask myself if I'm really ready to try them again,
and do I really want to.  Am I strong enough to deal with the potential
problems that may arise, and is it worth it.

> Anyway, I focused back
> on the thought of the 18-month-old -- am I going to let her loose in the
> convenience store in the state she's in (a little tipsy and really wanting
> chocolate) -- so I told "her" that if she skipped the convenience store, she
> could have sugarfree hot chocolate once we got home.

Hey, if it will work on a "toddler", it's well worth trying otherwise.
;)

Thanks for the inspiration, Mary.  Keep up the good work.

Donna K.
398.8/287.4/275 (next short term goal)
New WOE began Jan 2003
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:29 GMT
>> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
>
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> helped me decide the type of foods to eat to maintain "my" daily
> balance.

I have to bite the bullet sometimes to actually have the nerve to enter the
"bad" foods -- but only by recognizing those choices can I improve them.
"All or nothing" can work temporarily for me, but never in the long run.

>> I had been overweight for nearly all my life, and was over 200 lbs.
> for 22
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> and haven't seen the underside of 250 in over 15 years.  The weight
> loss is something to be cherished and protected.  I like this analogy

Anytime I can turn "have to" into "want to," it is a good thing for me.
Willingness sure beats crankiness.

>> I realize this isn't very well expressed, but it totally changed my
> thinking
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> and do I really want to.  Am I strong enough to deal with the potential
> problems that may arise, and is it worth it.

All great questions!

>> Anyway, I focused back
>> on the thought of the 18-month-old -- am I going to let her loose in
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>
> Thanks for the inspiration, Mary.  Keep up the good work.

Thank you, Donna -- I am looking forward to seeing your continued progress!
You are doing great!

Mary
JayJay - 01 Mar 2005 21:42 GMT
> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
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>
> Mary

Great post Mary,

And, although I've never been obese and usually don't even get into the
"overweight" category, this also does apply to me.   Generally I have
always been able to "wakeup" when I get to that point where I'm borderline
overweight.  And its true about the toddler mentality.  

I've learned in the past few years that child developmental stages can also
be applied in many areas from raising a dog, to dieting and raising
yourself.  

And, like you - over the weekend I was wanting something sweet.  I made
some sugar free/fat free chocolate pudding instead of going out for
something sweet.  It satisfied the sweet tooth without killing the calorie
budget.  And it kept that kid in a candystore mentality away, that would
have happened if I'd given in and gone to DQ.  
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:33 GMT
> Great post Mary,
>
> And, although I've never been obese and usually don't even get into the
> "overweight" category, this also does apply to me.   Generally I have
> always been able to "wakeup" when I get to that point where I'm borderline
> overweight.  And its true about the toddler mentality.

I think it is all about willingness vs. "obligation" -- willingness works
much better for me, but it doesn't come naturally.

> I've learned in the past few years that child developmental stages can
> also
> be applied in many areas from raising a dog, to dieting and raising
> yourself.

A lifelong job for me!

> And, like you - over the weekend I was wanting something sweet.  I made
> some sugar free/fat free chocolate pudding instead of going out for
> something sweet.  It satisfied the sweet tooth without killing the calorie
> budget.  And it kept that kid in a candystore mentality away, that would
> have happened if I'd given in and gone to DQ.

Great alternative to DQ -- one of my favorite old haunts. Glad they don't
make much sugarfree! Just those frozen bars. I bet I gained 50 lbs on
Blizzards alone in college!

Mary
JayJay - 02 Mar 2005 14:16 GMT
> Great alternative to DQ -- one of my favorite old haunts. Glad they don't
> make much sugarfree! Just those frozen bars. I bet I gained 50 lbs on
> Blizzards alone in college!

We've got one just a couple miles from the house - (right in front of the
closest grocery store and gas station).  Its also right around the corner
from the soccer fields.  Its definately one of those places where you can
drive there and be back home in 15 mins with goodies.

DS is always asking to go and get blizzrds.  But, that has recently turned
into his Dad's favoite place to take DS after soccer practice on Wednesdays
for their dinner, before bringing him back home and dropping him off with
me.  Dad doens't spring for dessert, just the burger/fries.

Thankfully DS has nothing to worry about weight wise and is learning about
nutrition and healthy eating, so that meal once a week isn't doing serious
damage at this point.  :)
Steve - 01 Mar 2005 23:59 GMT
I didn't know you gave birth! Congrats!

> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
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>
> Mary
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:34 GMT
>I didn't know you gave birth! Congrats!

Yes, other women have 8-lb. babies -- I had an 80-lb. baby! :-)

Mary
Beverly - 02 Mar 2005 00:53 GMT
> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
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> love and protection. If I had a toddler, would I let her loose in a grocery
> store to pick her own choices? No. Would I let her

Good post, Mary.

I can relate to your feelings.  My desire to protect my good health has been
the driving force behind maintaining my weight at an acceptable number and
doing the exercise.  Maybe it's because my mother always told me she felt
her weight had been the biggest reason for her health problems.  The year
after she passed away I went to WW and lost 25 pounds to reach my goal
weight.  I've stayed at or near goal since except for the year I gave up
smoking.  I felt I needed to rid myself of that bad habit more than I needed
to stay at goal weight.  As soon as the smoking habit was gone I worked on
getting back to goal.  Maybe we all need to search deep inside to find the
one thing that will inspire us to lose the weight then fiercely protect our
success.

Beverly

> I realize this isn't very well expressed, but it totally changed my thinking
> of going from being afraid about my weight loss (i.e. not being able to
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>
> Mary
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:39 GMT
> Good post, Mary.
>
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> our
> success.

I think it is that "protective" feeling that has helped me make even better
choices. The baby needs lots of structure and supervision, I am finding! :-)
This morning I decided "she" hasn't been getting enough exercise -- but
there's a fine line between nursing my ankle (what is with the baby
analogies here!) and getting lazy and out of my routine. So since I don't
have my workout on Wednesday, this morning at 7:15 I got on the bike for 30
min. and then on the treadmill for 30 minutes. And since I knew I wouldn't
have to be pounding my ankle for an hour on the treadmill, I was able to
increase my speed since I was only going for 30 minutes -- so instead of 3.0
I walked at 3.5.

You have done so great on your goals of weight loss and not smoking -- what
a double accomplishment!

Mary

>> I realize this isn't very well expressed, but it totally changed my
> thinking
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>>
>> Mary
janice - 02 Mar 2005 07:05 GMT
Great post as always Mary!  I hadn't thought about it quite like this,
but it makes a lot of sense.

janice
Mary M/Ohio - 02 Mar 2005 13:41 GMT
> Great post as always Mary!  I hadn't thought about it quite like this,
> but it makes a lot of sense.
>
> janice

It had never struck me that way before, and just over the past few days I
have made different choices once I realized how they might affect "my baby."
Two years (not even) is such a small amount of time compared to the 22 years
I was used to being over 200 lbs -- I feel I have to do some major changes
in my thinking if I'm going to stay below 200. I have to retrain myself so
that I don't creep back into bad old habits which were starting to snowball.
And I was so distraught to see the scale at over 170 (which I never thought
I'd see again) -- that it reminded me that 200 is very close and I need to
really protect the accomplishment I've made till it can stand on its own two
legs (as long as that takes!). Thanks, Janice!

Mary
JennA - 03 Mar 2005 04:17 GMT
>> Great post as always Mary!  I hadn't thought about it quite like this,
>> but it makes a lot of sense.
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>
> Mary

I meant to post earlier about how much I like your analogy.  While at the
store with DH the other day he grabbed some ice cream and I said "you can't
give that to the baby" and of course he nearly dropped dead right on the
spot having no clue what I was talking about.  We did compromise with SF/FF
ice cream and I measured out my "baby" portion of 1/2 cup which of course is
the actual grown-up portion.  Plain old ice cream isn't one of my big
triggers and I can take it or leave it.  The other 13 portions in the
container were consumed by someone other than me. If it had been chocolate
covered then that would have been a different issue.

Anyway it's a lifelong effort to change from old habits and adopt new ones.
We have been doing some of these "bad" things for 30+ years now and one or
two years of "good" behavior is simply not enough.  Old habits never
completely die, they just lie in wait to be picked up again.

Jenn
Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:12 GMT
>>> Great post as always Mary!  I hadn't thought about it quite like this,
>>> but it makes a lot of sense.
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>
> I meant to post earlier about how much I like your analogy.

And sorry for the late reply, Jenn -- I haven't been to ASD in a few days.

>While at the store with DH the other day he grabbed some ice cream and I
>said "you can't give that to the baby" and of course he nearly dropped dead
>right on the spot having no clue what I was talking about.

That's really funny! I'll see what happens when I work it into a
conversation, LOL.

>We did compromise with SF/FF ice cream and I measured out my "baby" portion
>of 1/2 cup which of course is the actual grown-up portion.

And I used to think a normal portion was 2 cups!

>Plain old ice cream isn't one of my big triggers and I can take it or leave
>it.  The other 13 portions in the container were consumed by someone other
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> one or two years of "good" behavior is simply not enough.  Old habits
> never completely die, they just lie in wait to be picked up again.

They sure do, Jenn! And they don't care how long they have to wait!

Mary
jmk - 02 Mar 2005 13:50 GMT
> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
> FitDay and ended up at about 1800 calories, which isn't so terrible for the
> challenge, since one meal was a breakfast buffet -- eeek).

<part of story deleted>

> I've been at my current weight for less than two
> years, so my weight loss is like a toddler that needs lots of guidance and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> let something interfere if it is going to hurt "my baby." Perhaps this is a
> delayed maternal instinct coming about :-)

Thanks for sharing this insight, Mary!

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Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:13 GMT
>> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
>> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything
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>
> Thanks for sharing this insight, Mary!

It has really helped me over the past two weeks to cut back on some habits
that were getting out of hand and train myself into wiser behaviors.

Mary
Gwendal - 03 Mar 2005 17:23 GMT
> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything in
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>
> Mary

Mary, this made a lot of sense to me.  It sort of mirrors my epiphany
where I was holding a bowl of Halloween candy and thinking, "I've been
good, I'll let myself have just one to be nice to myself."  Then I
realized - aha! - that being nice to myself meant treating myself with
loving care in such a way as to more likely help me meet my goals and
live within my values.

A maternal model is a good one.  I wouldn't give an over-fat kid cookies
and cake as a snack to be "nice to him".  Your analogy makes sense to me.

I wish there was a way to teach epiphanies, because those are the
moments that really count in this weight loss journey.

Gwendal
244/164.5/165
42%/23%/23%
Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:18 GMT
>> An important and attitude-changing concept came to me Sunday as I was
>> driving to my second restaurant meal of the day (I did record everything
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> loving care in such a way as to more likely help me meet my goals and live
> within my values.

A great way to turn that thought around!

> A maternal model is a good one.  I wouldn't give an over-fat kid cookies
> and cake as a snack to be "nice to him".  Your analogy makes sense to me.

It has been very useful to me and I've found it's surprisingly easy for me
to jump into that mode, so I am grateful for the new "tool."

> I wish there was a way to teach epiphanies, because those are the moments
> that really count in this weight loss journey.

Yes, they are most welcome gifts!

Mary
 
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