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Rachael - 02 Mar 2005 06:48 GMT
Hi everyone,

My names Rachael im 24 and am on a diet. This diet has been very good. I
have lost 13 kilos so far in about 1 - 2 months.

I really wish i was about 60 kilos, i am at the moment 97 kilos :-(

But i thought i would come here for support and to support others, and
souround myself with other motivated individials.

Please do contact me, if y ouneed motivation as i really need some myself.

:-) Rachael
jake - 02 Mar 2005 15:40 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
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>
> :-) Rachael

 You are losing wiehgt very, very fast. Faster than recommended
medically. Congratualtions on your good start, and don't worry about
having to go fast. I assume you'll want to stay motivated long term, right?
Ignoramus24456 - 02 Mar 2005 17:11 GMT
>> Hi everyone,
>>
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> having to go fast. I assume you'll want to stay motivated long term,
> right?

Losing 13 kg in 1-2 month initially is not at all unusual, I would not
worry about it as long as her weight loss naturally slows down.

Good luck Rachel, weight loss is quite possible, although it could be
difficult.

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jake - 04 Mar 2005 08:42 GMT
> Losing 13 kg in 1-2 month initially is not at all unusual, I would not
> worry about it as long as her weight loss naturally slows down.
>
> Good luck Rachel, weight loss is quite possible, although it could be
> difficult.

My information is different, but if you're right, all the better :)
Rachael Reynolds - 02 Mar 2005 21:01 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
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>
> :-) Rachael

Hi Rachael!  Nice to see someone spelling their name right!!  Good luck!
Rachael
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Rachael - 03 Mar 2005 00:51 GMT
Hi Rachael,

WOW wow another RachAEL  *hugs* nice to meet you!!

Ahh happy now knownig im not the only RACHAEL out there!

:-)

>> Hi everyone,
>>
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> Rachael
> 176/123/(119-124)
Rachael - 03 Mar 2005 00:56 GMT
Hi there,

I didnt catch yoru name.. lol im sure its not ignoramus as your handle is
lol!

Why am i loseing weight to fast? What can happen if i lose it to fast? Is
that bad? Im kind of not eating very much at all. I dont excercise.. yech i
hate excercise. I do want to stay motivated absolutly 100%

My weight loss is as follows:

Week 1: 6.6kg
Week 2: 1.8 Kg
Week 3: Forgot to weigh myself
Week 4: 1.6 Kg
Week 5: 2 Kg
Week 6: 1 Kg

and last night i lost 800 grams and there are 6 days to go tll i weigh
myself :-) for week 7

Stay in touch Rachael :-)

>> You are losing wiehgt very, very fast. Faster than recommended
>> medically. Congratualtions on your good start, and don't worry about
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> Good luck Rachel, weight loss is quite possible, although it could be
> difficult.
Ignoramus24456 - 03 Mar 2005 03:01 GMT
> I didnt catch yoru name.. lol im sure its not ignoramus as your handle is

My name is actually Igor, Ignoramus is my handle.

> Why am i loseing weight to fast? What can happen if i lose it to fast? Is
> that bad? Im kind of not eating very much at all. I dont excercise.. yech i
> hate excercise. I do want to stay motivated absolutly 100%

I do not think that you are losing too fast, there is not yet enough
information to make this conclusion.

> My weight loss is as follows:
>
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> Week 5: 2 Kg
> Week 6: 1 Kg

looks pretty reasonable to me.

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Rachael - 03 Mar 2005 04:48 GMT
Cool :-)

Week one was great but sinceits slowed down. Still im happy its comeing OFF
no matter how slow :-)

>> I didnt catch yoru name.. lol im sure its not ignoramus as your handle is
>
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>
> looks pretty reasonable to me.
Polar Light - 03 Mar 2005 09:15 GMT
> Why am i loseing weight to fast? What can happen if i lose it to fast? Is
> that bad? Im kind of not eating very much at all. I dont excercise.. yech
> i
> hate excercise. I do want to stay motivated absolutly 100%

Glad to see s/one make this statement openly :-) I do excercise a little,
walking, including some uphill stretches along the way, but I'm not into
muscle development. I know muscle burns more energy & all that BUT you also
have to work hard at keeping your new muscle. That means you not only have
to worry about maintaining your weight but also your muscle, lifting weights
& all that :-(

> My weight loss is as follows:
>
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> and last night i lost 800 grams and there are 6 days to go tll i weigh
> myself :-) for week 7

You're doing great!!! But be prepared for the loss to slow down as your
weight drops... just curious, what weight are you at?
JayJay - 04 Mar 2005 03:59 GMT
> Glad to see s/one make this statement openly :-) I do excercise a little,
> walking, including some uphill stretches along the way, but I'm not into
> muscle development. I know muscle burns more energy & all that BUT you also
> have to work hard at keeping your new muscle. That means you not only have
> to worry about maintaining your weight but also your muscle, lifting weights
> & all that :-(

Polar,

I'm not sure if you are male or female.   But, one thing to consider, if you
are female - weight lifting has alot more benefit than "just muscles".
Women who use a weight training routine as part of a balanced diet and
exercise program will retain their bone density longer.   In other words -
it helps to stave off osteoporosis.

Also - There are other benefits.

Tonight I was going over some old files and logs of mine.   In 2001 I lost
weight and took measurements.  Losing from 140 to 130 lbs with little
exercise   In 2002 I went from 130 to 124lb doing weighted cardio.  My
measurements changed some, but not dramatically.  From 140 to 124, I lost
1/5" off my waist, 2" off my hips and 1" off my thighs.   I then went on a
purposeful weight gain and weight lifting period where I tried to gain
muscle mass.  Then in 2003 I went back up to 130's again, but my
measurements continued to shrink (although I did not track them, I had to go
and buy new clothes that were smaller as my others were too big).

This past fall I gained nearly 20lbs, going from the 130 up to 150 before
finally getting back on track in mid January with the exercise - and just a
few weeks ago with the food.

I just compared my measurements.

At 148lbs just 2.5 weeks ago my measurements were the same as when I weight
135 in 2001.
At 142lbs this week my measurements are the same as when I weighed 128 in
October of 2002 before I began weight training.

And let me tell you - by no means do I weight train religiously or
fanatically.  (I haven't been to the gym since Saturday this week, due to a
busy schedule).   I took about 7 months off this past fall.  When I do get
into a good schedule - I go about 3 times a week and it takes about 45 mins
each.

Weight training has added weight, in the form of muscle, on my body.   The
added weight and muscle actually means I can eat more food.  It makes my
metabolism just that much higher.

At my lowest in 2002 (Dec, 2002) I was 124lbs.  That means in general my
daily intake for maintenance was somewhere about 1500 - 1800

Right now, if I lose down to about 134 I should have measurements smaller
than I had in 2002, but my daily maintenance will be 1700 - 2000, and if I
continue with exercise it will probably be even higher.

Hey - gain muscle from weight training and you find your measurements shrink
but you can eat more.   That's a win/win situation in my eyes.   Add the
benefit of stronger bones and keeping osteoporosis at bay - I'm really
liking this situation.

Just something to think about from someone who used to hate the idea of
exercise and getting sweaty.  Now I love it.   And I haven't even gotten
into the energy benefits, better sleep, less joint pain and all the other
benefits I've experienced over the past couple years.
JennA - 04 Mar 2005 04:27 GMT
>> Glad to see s/one make this statement openly :-) I do excercise a little,
>> walking, including some uphill stretches along the way, but I'm not into
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> weights
>> & all that :-(

> Hey - gain muscle from weight training and you find your measurements
> shrink
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> into the energy benefits, better sleep, less joint pain and all the other
> benefits I've experienced over the past couple years.

I can second that situation.  My physical therapist and I were discussing
this during my session (rotator cuff) today when I told her how much weight
I'd like to lose.  She thought it was too much.  I told her that it would
put me at the same weight I was a year and a half ago when I was seeing her
for my other chronic injury (hip flexor).  She came back with the comment
that I am way more muscular than I was back then. It was the first thing she
noticed when I came back to see her.  I'm wearing a size that in the past I
could only wear when I was 20 lbs lighter.

I love my exercise.  I've been so frustrated lately because my power lifting
has been hampered by a bad rotator cuff until I decided to turn it into an
opportunity to find more ways to work around it.  The PT gave me some
stretches for before and after running so that I can get back into it again
although I probably won't ever be able to do long distances or run the
marathon I wanted to.  So what.  I'll be back on my bike and the golf course
soon enough and my female friends at the gym have challenged me to join them
in the step aerobics classes while I'm on hiatus from heavy lifting.

The other benefits that Jayjay mentioned are things that I have also
experienced. One thing I found about becoming more active that wasn't
mentioned is that I meet more positive, upbeat people being involved in
these activities.  Even when I can't participate, I love working at road
races in the warm weather and dogsled races in the winter.  I highly
recommend it.

Jenn
Polar Light - 04 Mar 2005 08:49 GMT
> I'm not sure if you are male or female.   But, one thing to consider, if
> you
> are female - weight lifting has alot more benefit than "just muscles".
> Women who use a weight training routine as part of a balanced diet and
> exercise program will retain their bone density longer.   In other words -
> it helps to stave off osteoporosis.

I am female & I do know that women don't naturally 'bulk up' like men do
(some women worry about this). Basically, I was just looking to get a bit
slimmer, not 'stronger'. In fact, unlike other women, I've never even
fancied 'big muscle' guys. I guess I'm just not 'turned on' by muscle... but
what you mention here is interesting stuff...

[snip]

> This past fall I gained nearly 20lbs, going from the 130 up to 150 before
> finally getting back on track in mid January with the exercise - and just
> a
> few weeks ago with the food.

Something similar happened to me, went from 124 in the summer to 142
mid-Jan, urrgg!

> And let me tell you - by no means do I weight train religiously or
> fanatically.  (I haven't been to the gym since Saturday this week, due to
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> mins
> each.

That doesn't sound too bad... Some people seem to devote half their lives to
training...

> At my lowest in 2002 (Dec, 2002) I was 124lbs.  That means in general my
> daily intake for maintenance was somewhere about 1500 - 1800
>
> Right now, if I lose down to about 134 I should have measurements smaller
> than I had in 2002, but my daily maintenance will be 1700 - 2000, and if I
> continue with exercise it will probably be even higher.

Most interesting, I never thought it would be that drammatic... smaller
measurements are definitely a plus for me, I always thought you'd have the
same measurements but with a more 'athletic' look, I just don't want too
much of an 'athletic' look for me..

> Just something to think about from someone who used to hate the idea of
> exercise and getting sweaty.  Now I love it.   And I haven't even gotten
> into the energy benefits, better sleep, less joint pain and all the other
> benefits I've experienced over the past couple years.

Your comments are certainly food for thought, many thanks JayJay...
Gloria - 04 Mar 2005 13:53 GMT
Believe me, to exercise is to GAIN THE WORLD but I can not ,do to health
reasons, but PLEASE exercise while you CAN! One never knows when you may
not be ABLE to exercise ! It is the pits! I pushed all that I could do
and than it gradually stopped as weakness came to me through health
prblems. My body LOOKS larger as muscle is gone now but I am only one
size larger:) Energy was so great while exercising each day as I started
the day! But life IS GOOD as we make it for ourselves. Please cherish te
moments when you CAN exercise and you will love life even more:)

Best to you,
glo

                       
Polar Light - 04 Mar 2005 17:00 GMT
> Believe me, to exercise is to GAIN THE WORLD but I can not ,do to health
> reasons, but PLEASE exercise while you CAN! One never knows when you may
> not be ABLE to exercise ! It is the pits! I pushed all that I could do
> and than it gradually stopped as weakness came to me through health
> prblems.

I don't know why you're unable to excercise but I hope you get better soon
:-)

My body LOOKS larger as muscle is gone now but I am only one
> size larger:) Energy was so great while exercising each day as I started
> the day! But life IS GOOD as we make it for ourselves. Please cherish te
> moments when you CAN exercise and you will love life even more:)

I do excercise, in fact I've just come back from 11/2 hrs
walking/jogging/climbing stairs.  I just said I wasn't keen on weight
training (everybody seems to be crazy about it @ the moment) 'coz I don't
like visible muscles & there would hardly be any point in working hard to
achieve something I don't like, after all it is for aesthetic reasons that
I'm trying to lose weight.

However, JayJay has done an outstanding job of pointing out that developing
muscle mass doesn't necessarily mean getting a muscular-looking body, which
is not something I'd like (but I know a lot of people would).

Good luck... :-)
JayJay - 04 Mar 2005 19:31 GMT
> However, JayJay has done an outstanding job of pointing out that developing
> muscle mass doesn't necessarily mean getting a muscular-looking body, which
> is not something I'd like (but I know a lot of people would).
>
> Good luck... :-)

awe..  gee...  I'm blushing.  :-)  Thanks for the compliment.
Carol Frilegh - 04 Mar 2005 19:45 GMT
> > However, JayJay has done an outstanding job of pointing out that developing
> > muscle mass doesn't necessarily mean getting a muscular-looking body, which
> > is not something I'd like (but I know a lot of people would).

I agree. I increased my weights and don't see too much bulking up
except in the midsection and am not sure what does that.

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JayJay - 04 Mar 2005 14:07 GMT
> I am female & I do know that women don't naturally 'bulk up' like men do
> (some women worry about this). Basically, I was just looking to get a bit
> slimmer, not 'stronger'. In fact, unlike other women, I've never even
> fancied 'big muscle' guys. I guess I'm just not 'turned on' by muscle... but
> what you mention here is interesting stuff...

Believe me - there's really nothing "musclular" about my physic when I'm at
rest.  I look like your average woman.  I don't have defined muscles at
rest - and actually, many of my muscles are not even defined as I work out.
:)

> That doesn't sound too bad... Some people seem to devote half their lives to
> training...

Believe me - it doesn't take 1/2 your life.   Ya know the "bowflex"
commercial - "just 20 mins a day, 3 times a week"...  well - really -
that's about it.   I can do 45 mins 3 times a week on a full body workout
and maintain.  But I also enjoy some of my exercise - like biking and
walking the dog..  and those add up.  (heck - even the walking I do at work
adds up)

> Most interesting, I never thought it would be that drammatic... smaller
> measurements are definitely a plus for me, I always thought you'd have the
> same measurements but with a more 'athletic' look, I just don't want too
> much of an 'athletic' look for me..

Believe me - I'd never really looked at it until just the other day when I
was cleaning up my files and found my old log spreadsheet.  I mean - all
this past fall as I gained weight I wasn't growing out of all my clothes.
I think that's part of why I did gain the weight without coming to my
senses.   Afterall - if the clothes still fit - its ok..  right?  :)

But its true - at 5'3" and 150lbs, I still wear a size 6 to 8 in pants (and
my biggest trouble area is my hips and thighs.  Wherease - back in 1993
after I had my son and was 150lbs I was wearing size 12.  Big diffrence
there.

>> Just something to think about from someone who used to hate the idea of
>> exercise and getting sweaty.  Now I love it.   And I haven't even gotten
>> into the energy benefits, better sleep, less joint pain and all the other
>> benefits I've experienced over the past couple years.
>
> Your comments are certainly food for thought, many thanks JayJay...

I hope you do take some consideration on this.  There are so many benefits
to using weights.  Oh - and I am not just talking about power lifting or
olympic lifting like some do in here.   For me - its just using machines at
weights I'm comfortable with but yet presents some challenge to my muscles.  

(example:  Dumbell arm curl.  If I pick up a 20lb dumbell and do 10 curls
and by the 10th one, I can barely pull it up any more - then I'll put down
the 20 and use a 15lb instead.   If I can do 15 curls, rest for a min, and
do 15 more, rest, then a 3rd set of 15 and the last one is still very easy
- then I'll add more weight.  But if I can only do 3 sets of 10 curls then
its time to just stick to that weight.   Kinda simple when you break it
down)
Polar Light - 04 Mar 2005 17:10 GMT
> Believe me - it doesn't take 1/2 your life.   Ya know the "bowflex"
> commercial - "just 20 mins a day, 3 times a week"...  well - really -
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> work
> adds up)

Excercise is just like work, part of it can be enjoyable, the rest is
'duty'...

>> Most interesting, I never thought it would be that drammatic... smaller
>> measurements are definitely a plus for me, I always thought you'd have
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> I think that's part of why I did gain the weight without coming to my
> senses.   Afterall - if the clothes still fit - its ok..  right?  :)

Yeah, that's the way to notice a weight gain... My trousers started to hurt
me, especially when sitting...

> But its true - at 5'3" and 150lbs, I still wear a size 6 to 8 in pants
> (and
> my biggest trouble area is my hips and thighs.  Wherease - back in 1993
> after I had my son and was 150lbs I was wearing size 12.  Big diffrence
> there.

I'd say unbelievable difference! I'm only 5'2" & currently 134, I'd like to
lose between 10-20 lbs, my problem area is also around the hips'n'thigs.

>>> Just something to think about from someone who used to hate the idea of
>>> exercise and getting sweaty.  Now I love it.   And I haven't even gotten
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> its time to just stick to that weight.   Kinda simple when you break it
> down)

Is there a web link where I can find info for beginners on the above?

Thanks again... :-)
JayJay - 04 Mar 2005 19:30 GMT
> Excercise is just like work, part of it can be enjoyable, the rest is
> 'duty'...

I had that belief a few years ago.  :-)   So, I do know where youa re
coming from.  But, once I got into the fun stuff, and saw the health
benefits and gained in fitness level myself, then I actually found the
other stuff stopped being a chore and it too, became fun and somethign I
looked forward to.  

Ya know - kinda like how you hated certain foods as a kid, and acquired a
taste for it later in life as an adult.   Our tastes change as we grow and
mature outselves.  :)

> I'd say unbelievable difference! I'm only 5'2" & currently 134, I'd like to
> lose between 10-20 lbs, my problem area is also around the hips'n'thigs.

Well, ya know - we could compare measurements (offline and not publicly in
the group) if you like..  :)

> Is there a web link where I can find info for beginners on the above?
>
> Thanks again... :-)

The 2 best that I know of are:

http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
(Mistress Krista used to post here, she is a wonderful person and a wealth
of knowledge.  We worship the ground she walks on.  And browse around the
site - she doesn't look butch, nor does she look overly muscular. )

http://www.exrx.net/
(this site is a wealth of information and knowledge.  You get everything
from beginners guide to actual mini clips showing you the proper form of
the exercise and all.  )
Carol Frilegh - 04 Mar 2005 11:11 GMT
> > Glad to see s/one make this statement openly :-) I do excercise a little,
> > walking, including some uphill stretches along the way, but I'm not into
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> exercise program will retain their bone density longer.   In other words -
> it helps to stave off osteoporosis.

I can surely testify to this. Even though my lifting is not with heavy
weights ( I use 5, 8 and 10 pound dumbells) it has stopped my osteo in
it's tracks as well as reversing some arthritis over a four year
period.

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Andy - 03 Mar 2005 09:40 GMT
> Why am i loseing weight to fast? What can happen if i lose it to fast?
> Is that bad? Im kind of not eating very much at all. I dont
> excercise.. yech i hate excercise. I do want to stay motivated
> absolutly 100%

"Rachael"

Punching the heavy punching bags isn't "really" exercise, it's mental
revenge. Boss, traffic, bills, weather, etc.

Andy

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Gloria - 03 Mar 2005 13:20 GMT
1964, I REMEMBER the night!! YES! It ages me:) but how GREAT to to
remember the night in 1964 !! on The Ed Sullivan Show !!

Rachael,
My weight dropped fast too bu than.....
it SLOWED and I do not exercise either! Can not do much exercise but NOT
my choice!! I'm not sure what the loss is in kilos ! Where are you, as I
see that you are 16 hours away from me.
Glad to see yu here!!!! GOOD START!!

glo

                       
Rachael - 04 Mar 2005 03:01 GMT
Hi all and GLO :-)

I am in Australia, where are you?

Well yoru right it is a start and since wednedsay 2 days ago i have lost 2
kilos :-) he he he Im delighted, no excercise, just dieting strictly.

I should excercise to get the muscle mass to help burn teh fat but im too
lazy, i really am and have no excercise motivation.. i can starve till i go
blue but id rather be a whale than excercise.. not really but thats the
weird mentality of it..

Rachael :-)

> 1964, I REMEMBER the night!! YES! It ages me:) but how GREAT to to
> remember the night in 1964 !! on The Ed Sullivan Show !!
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>
> glo
Elly - 04 Mar 2005 19:58 GMT
Welcome to the ASD, Rachael :-))

Elly
balanced low carb woe (mainly eating everything but counting the carbs)
196 lbs (highest ever!)
accomplished 1st mini-goal
current: 186 lbs
2nd mini-goal by April 1st: 176 lbs

> Hi everyone,
>
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>
> :-) Rachael
Willow Darcy Shaw - 06 Mar 2005 19:03 GMT
Welcome Rachael!  Congrats on the loss so far.  This is a great place for
information and support.

Willow

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Willow Darcy Shaw from Atlantic Canada
Current Loss: -18 lbs
Mini Goal: lose 25 lbs by 1st week May
Ultimate Goal: lose 70 lbs

> Hi everyone,
>
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>
> :-) Rachael
Rachael - 07 Mar 2005 21:27 GMT
Hi All Willow, Elly ;-)

Glad to hear from y uand see yoru goals, I lost about on average 500 grams a
day, about 2  kilos a week at the moment. My weigh in is TOMMOROW... quick
starve ... lol!

Seriously, im happy to finally have some motivation to lose weight!!

> Welcome Rachael!  Congrats on the loss so far.  This is a great place for
> information and support.
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>>
>> :-) Rachael
 
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