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How's your visceral fat?

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Brad Sheppard - 08 Nov 2003 14:52 GMT
Couch potatoes get off your butts, your visceral fat may be high and
getting higher.
"Visceral fat is located around the organs inside the belly and is
deeper in the body than subcutaneous fat, which lies under the skin.
Why should you care about your visceral fat? Controlling visceral fat
is important,because increased levels have been associated with
insulin resistance, cardiovascular disease and other metabolic
syndromes.  Inactivity increases visceral fat, while exercise
decreases it." See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
janice - 08 Nov 2003 16:16 GMT
It's an important point, often overlooked by people, that when we lose
or gain weight we are losing or gaining our internal fat as well as
what's on show.  I know doctors can tell when doing an internal
examination if you have internal fat and it can affect the position of
various organs inside you.  Which is one reason why liposuction
doesn't deal with the whole problem.
janice

>Couch potatoes get off your butts, your visceral fat may be high and
>getting higher.
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>syndromes.  Inactivity increases visceral fat, while exercise
>decreases it." See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Cat - 08 Nov 2003 19:01 GMT
So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn.

Cat

> Couch potatoes get off your butts, your visceral fat may be high and
> getting higher.
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> syndromes.  Inactivity increases visceral fat, while exercise
> decreases it." See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Julianne - 09 Nov 2003 14:32 GMT
I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will
leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an
arbitrary time or calories setting in order to see exactly how difficult it
is to get the equivalent of 17 miles a week.  I figure three miles, six days
a week isn't extraordinary and if I can throw in a couple of evening short
workouts, it may come quicker that I imagined.

j
> So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn.
>
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> > decreases it." See
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Brad Sheppard - 10 Nov 2003 16:02 GMT
Sounds like a great plan.  I nagged my sister for years to exercise -
to no avail - now she has taken a turn for the worse and gets out of
breath simply walking. Some people think that simply taking their
medicine is enough - they don't have to be concerned about diet and
exercise.

> I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will
> leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an
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> > > decreases it." See
> > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Perple Gyrl - 10 Nov 2003 03:11 GMT
What about using an exercise bike for 18 miles a week... does that have the
same benefit?  It takes less time to reach that goal then a treadmill...

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> Sounds like a great plan.  I nagged my sister for years to exercise -
> to no avail - now she has taken a turn for the worse and gets out of
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> > > > decreases it." See
> > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Ignoramus19587 - 11 Nov 2003 13:57 GMT
> What about using an exercise bike for 18 miles a week... does that have the
> same benefit?  It takes less time to reach that goal then a treadmill...

Depends on the resistance setting of the bike.

i
223/175/180

>> Sounds like a great plan.  I nagged my sister for years to exercise -
>> to no avail - now she has taken a turn for the worse and gets out of
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>> > > > decreases it." See
>> > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Brad Sheppard - 11 Nov 2003 16:05 GMT
You'd have to burn as many calories as 18 miles of walking - about
1600.  At a moderate pace you'd be burning between 400 and 600
calories per hour on your exercise bike. To be safe, I'd suggest 4
hours/week. Sorry.

> What about using an exercise bike for 18 miles a week... does that have the
> same benefit?  It takes less time to reach that goal then a treadmill...
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> > > > > decreases it." See
> > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Julianne - 11 Nov 2003 16:25 GMT
Update:

I went three miles on Sat and three on Sun for six.  Yesterday, I decided
that since my biggest obstruction to exercising during the week is time, I
broke it up into two shorter two mile workouts.  Thus, my total was ten
miles last night.  This morning I had a 5:30 a.m. meeting (acquisition
time - everyone, even the lowly consultant works around the clock) so I
didn't work out.  Tonight, I plan to do two or three miles which will get me
very close to my goal and it is only Tuesday!

Oh, the sleep after these evening and afternoon workouts is heavenly - like
anesthesia except I wake up fresh.

j
> You'd have to burn as many calories as 18 miles of walking - about
> 1600.  At a moderate pace you'd be burning between 400 and 600
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> > > > > > decreases it." See
> > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Ignoramus6554 - 10 Nov 2003 16:16 GMT
> I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will
> leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an
> arbitrary time or calories setting in order to see exactly how difficult it
> is to get the equivalent of 17 miles a week.  I figure three miles, six days
> a week isn't extraordinary and if I can throw in a couple of evening short
> workouts, it may come quicker that I imagined.

Just ut of curiosity Julianne, what is wrong with walking outside? Is
the weather good around where you live? I have nothing against
treadmills, but it would be boring for me personally.

i

> j
>> So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn.
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>> > decreases it." See
>> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Julianne - 10 Nov 2003 17:01 GMT
> > I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will
> > leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an
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>
> i

There is nothing wrong with walking outside.  When I am at BF's camp (about
every other weekend and more during hunting season), it is my only option.
However, although the weather here is beautiful this month, it is the first
time that the heat is below the 90's with humidity approaching 100 percent.
(Technically, I live below or right at sea level.)  Also, it is very flat
here and the treadmill allows me to increase the incline for a more
challenging workout without running which I find unpleasant. Also, I have
allergies.  When I am at the camp, I live on allergy meds but the dry mouth
and fatigue get old after a while.  I have tried everything to no avail.  If
you look at a topography map for the Atchafalaya Basin, you will see that it
drops in altitude creating quite literally a basin.  All the Louisiana mold
and allergens get sort of trapped.  So, I work out indoors in the filtered
AC and during the week, I do fine on just a little sudafed.  I am eagerly
anticipating our mild winter when much of the allergy producing stuff will
die off for a little while but with highs in the high 80's this week, it
looks like I will wait a while longer.  And, I will certainly enjoy the
outdoors more, then.  The camp is further north and while it is still flat
by other standards, I find that walking on gravel roads with slight inclines
and in the woods is much more challenging than the city walking.

As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I would
otherwise feel are a waste of time.  I have a TV with a VCR and watch
television and movies.  I sometimes read 'women's' magazines or listen to
music.  Other times, I use the quiet time to think.  For me it is much less
boring than walking around my concrete neighborhood sniffling with puffy
eyes while wheezing:)

> > j
> >> So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn.
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> >> > decreases it." See
> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Ignoramus6554 - 10 Nov 2003 17:03 GMT
I see. Well, if you have allergies, there is not much choice but to
use the treadmill. Beware of reading while walking, supposedly, it is
not good for your eyes
.
i
223/177/180

>> > I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I
> will
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>> >> > decreases it." See
>> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
Wendy - 10 Nov 2003 18:50 GMT
> As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I would
> otherwise feel are a waste of time.  I have a TV with a VCR and watch
> television and movies.  I sometimes read 'women's' magazines or listen to
> music.  

I've been using an MP3 player lately that I've set up with a playlist of
"workout music" and I've found my intensity of workouts has increased
significantly as a result.  

It has songs like, "Born to Run", "Shattered", "Shake It Up",
"FreezeFrame" "My Sharona" and a whole eccletic mix ranging from the 80's
through to a few 21st century songs I stole from my daughter.  (My musical
tastes seem to have matured around 1986 and the number of items I've got
that post-date that are remarkably few.)

Anyway, all these songs with a super-fast beat have really got my motor
running.  (Speaking of which, if anyone has a digital version of AC/DC
would you email me, please?)  :-)

-- Wendy
Julianne - 11 Nov 2003 00:14 GMT
> > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I would
> > otherwise feel are a waste of time.  I have a TV with a VCR and watch
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>
> -- Wendy

I have found the same thing.  The intensity of the music greatly influences
my energy level.  I like most of the stuff you listen to as well as baroque
music such as Bach and Vivaldi when exercising.  The violins are actually
quite lively.  I would have never thought of this on my own but years ago
when I went to the gym, I picked up the wrong tape and it was great.  Gotta
watch those largo movements, though.  Anything with Allegro in the title
does just fine.

I have no digital version of AC/DC but have a program that came loaded on my
computer called Record Now.  In the fine print, it tells how to get a CD and
turn it into MP3's although there are no obvious icons.  Why not check your
computer?  If it is fairly new, I bet you can do this.

j
Ignoramus6554 - 11 Nov 2003 01:48 GMT
I also love vivaldi violin concertos, however mostly for reading and
sitting by the fire and such.

i

>> > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I
> would
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>
> j
MH - 11 Nov 2003 07:36 GMT
> > Anyway, all these songs with a super-fast beat have really got my motor
> > running.  (Speaking of which, if anyone has a digital version of AC/DC
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> turn it into MP3's although there are no obvious icons.  Why not check your
> computer?  If it is fairly new, I bet you can do this.

AC/DC is great to work out to! I listen to mostly metal when I walk or lift
weights, but AC/DC kicks a.s!

Martha
Brad Sheppard - 11 Nov 2003 17:37 GMT
Music is a great idea.  Some source said that it helps you exercise
longer with less apparent effort.  For me, it certainly makes it more
fun!

> > > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I
>  would
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>
> j
Chris Braun - 11 Nov 2003 02:51 GMT
>It has songs like, "Born to Run", "Shattered", "Shake It Up",
>"FreezeFrame" "My Sharona" and a whole eccletic mix ranging from the 80's
>through to a few 21st century songs I stole from my daughter.  (My musical
>tastes seem to have matured around 1986 and the number of items I've got
>that post-date that are remarkably few.)

My tastes seem to have frozen in the 1970s, but I've picked up some
new favorites from the trainers at the gym.  One of my favorites is
The Violent Femmes "Blister in the Sun". :-)

Chris
Perple Gyrl - 10 Nov 2003 03:12 GMT
I love Violent Femmes... but I can't picture working out to it!  Some of
their music is depressing!

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> >It has songs like, "Born to Run", "Shattered", "Shake It Up",
> >"FreezeFrame" "My Sharona" and a whole eccletic mix ranging from the 80's
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>
> Chris
Chris Braun - 11 Nov 2003 05:00 GMT
>I love Violent Femmes... but I can't picture working out to it!  Some of
>their music is depressing!

True, but I do like running to Blister in the Sun.  Not all of it
works as well.

Chris
 
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