Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / November 2003
How's your visceral fat?
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Brad Sheppard - 08 Nov 2003 14:52 GMT Couch potatoes get off your butts, your visceral fat may be high and getting higher. "Visceral fat is located around the organs inside the belly and is deeper in the body than subcutaneous fat, which lies under the skin. Why should you care about your visceral fat? Controlling visceral fat is important,because increased levels have been associated with insulin resistance, cardiovascular disease and other metabolic syndromes. Inactivity increases visceral fat, while exercise decreases it." See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm
janice - 08 Nov 2003 16:16 GMT It's an important point, often overlooked by people, that when we lose or gain weight we are losing or gaining our internal fat as well as what's on show. I know doctors can tell when doing an internal examination if you have internal fat and it can affect the position of various organs inside you. Which is one reason why liposuction doesn't deal with the whole problem. janice
>Couch potatoes get off your butts, your visceral fat may be high and >getting higher. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >syndromes. Inactivity increases visceral fat, while exercise >decreases it." See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Cat - 08 Nov 2003 19:01 GMT So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn.
Cat
> Couch potatoes get off your butts, your visceral fat may be high and > getting higher. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > syndromes. Inactivity increases visceral fat, while exercise > decreases it." See http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Julianne - 09 Nov 2003 14:32 GMT I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an arbitrary time or calories setting in order to see exactly how difficult it is to get the equivalent of 17 miles a week. I figure three miles, six days a week isn't extraordinary and if I can throw in a couple of evening short workouts, it may come quicker that I imagined.
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> So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > decreases it." See > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Brad Sheppard - 10 Nov 2003 16:02 GMT Sounds like a great plan. I nagged my sister for years to exercise - to no avail - now she has taken a turn for the worse and gets out of breath simply walking. Some people think that simply taking their medicine is enough - they don't have to be concerned about diet and exercise.
> I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will > leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > decreases it." See > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Perple Gyrl - 10 Nov 2003 03:11 GMT What about using an exercise bike for 18 miles a week... does that have the same benefit? It takes less time to reach that goal then a treadmill...
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> Sounds like a great plan. I nagged my sister for years to exercise - > to no avail - now she has taken a turn for the worse and gets out of [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > decreases it." See > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Ignoramus19587 - 11 Nov 2003 13:57 GMT > What about using an exercise bike for 18 miles a week... does that have the > same benefit? It takes less time to reach that goal then a treadmill... Depends on the resistance setting of the bike.
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>> Sounds like a great plan. I nagged my sister for years to exercise - >> to no avail - now she has taken a turn for the worse and gets out of [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> > > > decreases it." See >> > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Brad Sheppard - 11 Nov 2003 16:05 GMT You'd have to burn as many calories as 18 miles of walking - about 1600. At a moderate pace you'd be burning between 400 and 600 calories per hour on your exercise bike. To be safe, I'd suggest 4 hours/week. Sorry.
> What about using an exercise bike for 18 miles a week... does that have the > same benefit? It takes less time to reach that goal then a treadmill... [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > > > decreases it." See > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Julianne - 11 Nov 2003 16:25 GMT Update:
I went three miles on Sat and three on Sun for six. Yesterday, I decided that since my biggest obstruction to exercising during the week is time, I broke it up into two shorter two mile workouts. Thus, my total was ten miles last night. This morning I had a 5:30 a.m. meeting (acquisition time - everyone, even the lowly consultant works around the clock) so I didn't work out. Tonight, I plan to do two or three miles which will get me very close to my goal and it is only Tuesday!
Oh, the sleep after these evening and afternoon workouts is heavenly - like anesthesia except I wake up fresh.
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> You'd have to burn as many calories as 18 miles of walking - about > 1600. At a moderate pace you'd be burning between 400 and 600 [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > > > decreases it." See > > > > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Ignoramus6554 - 10 Nov 2003 16:16 GMT > I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will > leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an > arbitrary time or calories setting in order to see exactly how difficult it > is to get the equivalent of 17 miles a week. I figure three miles, six days > a week isn't extraordinary and if I can throw in a couple of evening short > workouts, it may come quicker that I imagined. Just ut of curiosity Julianne, what is wrong with walking outside? Is the weather good around where you live? I have nothing against treadmills, but it would be boring for me personally.
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> j >> So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> > decreases it." See >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Julianne - 10 Nov 2003 17:01 GMT > > I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I will > > leave the treadmill settings alone until they reach 18 miles instead of an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > i There is nothing wrong with walking outside. When I am at BF's camp (about every other weekend and more during hunting season), it is my only option. However, although the weather here is beautiful this month, it is the first time that the heat is below the 90's with humidity approaching 100 percent. (Technically, I live below or right at sea level.) Also, it is very flat here and the treadmill allows me to increase the incline for a more challenging workout without running which I find unpleasant. Also, I have allergies. When I am at the camp, I live on allergy meds but the dry mouth and fatigue get old after a while. I have tried everything to no avail. If you look at a topography map for the Atchafalaya Basin, you will see that it drops in altitude creating quite literally a basin. All the Louisiana mold and allergens get sort of trapped. So, I work out indoors in the filtered AC and during the week, I do fine on just a little sudafed. I am eagerly anticipating our mild winter when much of the allergy producing stuff will die off for a little while but with highs in the high 80's this week, it looks like I will wait a while longer. And, I will certainly enjoy the outdoors more, then. The camp is further north and while it is still flat by other standards, I find that walking on gravel roads with slight inclines and in the woods is much more challenging than the city walking.
As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I would otherwise feel are a waste of time. I have a TV with a VCR and watch television and movies. I sometimes read 'women's' magazines or listen to music. Other times, I use the quiet time to think. For me it is much less boring than walking around my concrete neighborhood sniffling with puffy eyes while wheezing:)
> > j > >> So THAT's what that stuff is around my middle! Boy, is it ever stubborn. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >> > decreases it." See > >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Ignoramus6554 - 10 Nov 2003 17:03 GMT I see. Well, if you have allergies, there is not much choice but to use the treadmill. Beware of reading while walking, supposedly, it is not good for your eyes . i 223/177/180
>> > I read the article that Brad posted, too and decided that this week, I > will [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >> >> > decreases it." See >> >> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2003/05/030529081315.htm Wendy - 10 Nov 2003 18:50 GMT > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I would > otherwise feel are a waste of time. I have a TV with a VCR and watch > television and movies. I sometimes read 'women's' magazines or listen to > music. I've been using an MP3 player lately that I've set up with a playlist of "workout music" and I've found my intensity of workouts has increased significantly as a result.
It has songs like, "Born to Run", "Shattered", "Shake It Up", "FreezeFrame" "My Sharona" and a whole eccletic mix ranging from the 80's through to a few 21st century songs I stole from my daughter. (My musical tastes seem to have matured around 1986 and the number of items I've got that post-date that are remarkably few.)
Anyway, all these songs with a super-fast beat have really got my motor running. (Speaking of which, if anyone has a digital version of AC/DC would you email me, please?) :-)
-- Wendy
Julianne - 11 Nov 2003 00:14 GMT > > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I would > > otherwise feel are a waste of time. I have a TV with a VCR and watch [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > -- Wendy I have found the same thing. The intensity of the music greatly influences my energy level. I like most of the stuff you listen to as well as baroque music such as Bach and Vivaldi when exercising. The violins are actually quite lively. I would have never thought of this on my own but years ago when I went to the gym, I picked up the wrong tape and it was great. Gotta watch those largo movements, though. Anything with Allegro in the title does just fine.
I have no digital version of AC/DC but have a program that came loaded on my computer called Record Now. In the fine print, it tells how to get a CD and turn it into MP3's although there are no obvious icons. Why not check your computer? If it is fairly new, I bet you can do this.
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Ignoramus6554 - 11 Nov 2003 01:48 GMT I also love vivaldi violin concertos, however mostly for reading and sitting by the fire and such.
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>> > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I > would [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > j MH - 11 Nov 2003 07:36 GMT > > Anyway, all these songs with a super-fast beat have really got my motor > > running. (Speaking of which, if anyone has a digital version of AC/DC [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > turn it into MP3's although there are no obvious icons. Why not check your > computer? If it is fairly new, I bet you can do this. AC/DC is great to work out to! I listen to mostly metal when I walk or lift weights, but AC/DC kicks a.s!
Martha
Brad Sheppard - 11 Nov 2003 17:37 GMT Music is a great idea. Some source said that it helps you exercise longer with less apparent effort. For me, it certainly makes it more fun!
> > > As far as the treadmill being boring, I use the time to do things I > would [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > j Chris Braun - 11 Nov 2003 02:51 GMT >It has songs like, "Born to Run", "Shattered", "Shake It Up", >"FreezeFrame" "My Sharona" and a whole eccletic mix ranging from the 80's >through to a few 21st century songs I stole from my daughter. (My musical >tastes seem to have matured around 1986 and the number of items I've got >that post-date that are remarkably few.) My tastes seem to have frozen in the 1970s, but I've picked up some new favorites from the trainers at the gym. One of my favorites is The Violent Femmes "Blister in the Sun". :-)
Chris
Perple Gyrl - 10 Nov 2003 03:12 GMT I love Violent Femmes... but I can't picture working out to it! Some of their music is depressing!
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> >It has songs like, "Born to Run", "Shattered", "Shake It Up", > >"FreezeFrame" "My Sharona" and a whole eccletic mix ranging from the 80's [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Chris Chris Braun - 11 Nov 2003 05:00 GMT >I love Violent Femmes... but I can't picture working out to it! Some of >their music is depressing! True, but I do like running to Blister in the Sun. Not all of it works as well.
Chris
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