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Gwendal - 03 Mar 2005 17:44 GMT
I started my weight loss journey in mid-May of 2002 weighing 244 pounds
as a 5'6" inch 38 year old woman.  I thought of Victoria's Secret models
as being a different species than me.  I put getting to 190 - the weight
I was before my second (of three pregnancies) as a reasonable goal.

I started by getting exercise regular.  I committed to working out 3 or
5 times a week for at least 1/2 an hour.  It took me a 12 week session
of "personal fitness program" at the Y to get there.  Sometimes I never
got dressed for the day because I was going to workout before I did
anything and it'd take me until 6 pm to finish procrastinating and go
get my workout done!

But three months of pressing forward and I was getting pretty normal
about exercise.  I wanted to be able to think of exercise the way I
think of brushing my teeth: I never say, "I don't have time today" or "I
don't want to get my mouth all frothy"... I just do it.  I reached that
goal: over time exercise has gone from "must do" to "miss it too much to
quit".  Put another way, now instead of "having" to exercise I "get" to
exercise.

But at the beginning of September, 2002 I had only lost 5 pounds, going
from 244 to 239.  It was time to address diet.  I *thought* I ate
healthy.  I probably did in that I didn't have any obvious junk food
habits or binging problems.  I just ate too much.  Really too much.  I
had no idea what normal portions were.  I also had pretty screwy ideas
about macronutrient ratios.

I read Mistress Krista and Body for Life and the Zone Diet and the
Glycemic Index diet books and pieced together an eating plan borrowing
heavily from all of them.  I also logged at www.fitday.com and worked on
bringing macronutrient ratios more into balance.  In practice this meant
examining every carb that was wondering near my mouth for fiber or
phytonutrients.  If it didn't have them then it didn't fit in my carb
calorie budget.

I also had to plan to get protein in my snacks.  I found that carbs
would always magically appear whenever I was hungry, but protein only
showed up if I preplanned and put it there.

I continued exercising, but brought it up a notch by doing my first
"Body for Life" twelve week challenge.  Now I did three twenty minute
"high intensity interval training" routines a week and three intensive
weight-lifting routines a week.

Fat started to fall off my in sheets.  I lost five pounds a month every
month for the next 8 months.  I never went hungry, I didn't need
willpower, it just worked like magic, this whole "eat less and exercise
more" thing.

I did a few more Body for Life challenges in 2003 but the fat loss
started to slow.  I concentrated more on powerlifting during this time
and made steady progress... sometimes regaining over vacations but then
losing again in the next month.

In late 2003 I started running to try to build back my endurance.  In
2004 I astounded myself by running a few races.  I was slow, I was fat,
but I was having fun.

In 2005 I ramped it up a notch by deciding to train for a triathlon.  I
stopped doing as much weightlifting (now I do a total body workout twice
a week with Nautilus) and started swimming and cycling in addition to
running.  I find my old joints can't handle any single activity five or
six times a week, but I can do each of them twice a week.

And my weight has started plummeting again.  I'm down 12 pounds in the
past 8 weeks.

So now I'm at my original hard to believe goal: I lost 80 pounds and
went from 42% body fat to 23% body fat.  I'm not exactly in shape to do
athletic pursuits like road races and triathlons, but I'm in pretty darn
good shape for a 40 year old mother of three with a sedentary job.

I'm also convinced that my body will continue to improve.  The longer I
act like a slender person the more my body resembles one.

I need to cut this short so I won't go into how much my family and
(surprisingly) career have improved, but I will close by saying that I
was wearing a tight size 22 this time three years ago.  Now I'm wearing
a loose size 12.  Change was slow, but it was real.

Gwendal
244/164.5/165
42%/23%/23%
JennA - 03 Mar 2005 18:21 GMT
>I started my weight loss journey in mid-May of 2002 weighing 244 pounds as
>a 5'6" inch 38 year old woman.  I thought of Victoria's Secret models as
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> 244/164.5/165
> 42%/23%/23%

Congrats!!  Now you can put all of that "practicing maintenance" time to
work :)

Jenn
Berna Bleeker - 03 Mar 2005 20:34 GMT
Gwendal schreef:
> I was wearing a tight size 22 this time three years ago.  Now I'm wearing
> a loose size 12.  Change was slow, but it was real.

WOOHOO!!! Congratulations! :-)

Berna (101.5/76.1/~68)

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Gwendal - 04 Mar 2005 15:56 GMT
> Gwendal schreef:
>
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>
> Berna (101.5/76.1/~68)

Thank you, Ladies.  I forgot to credit this group, and it deserves
credit.  I've been here under four different names over the past three
years but I've always been here... reading, responding, pontificating,
being ENGAGED in the process of losing fat.

Rosie used to have a sig line "read and post everyday" and she was
right: staying engaged in this process really does help.  When people
ask if I did it alone I have to think how I'll answer.  Yes... because
we ALL have to do it alone... but no, because I had a support group.

Thank you.

BTW, I just got back leafing through an old diet journal from the 80's.
 I successfully got down to 163 once 19 years ago.  I cannot tell you
how shocked I am that I made it to this weight now at this point in my life!

Gwendal
244/165/165
Carol Frilegh - 04 Mar 2005 19:37 GMT
> > Gwendal schreef:
> >
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> Gwendal
> 244/165/165

Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.

Diva
JennA - 04 Mar 2005 20:00 GMT
>> > Gwendal schreef:
>> >
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>
> Diva

Well since she's trying to maintain some semblence of privacy, publishing
her former names would defeat that purpose.
Gwendal - 04 Mar 2005 23:12 GMT
> Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.

I was being stalked on another group so I changed names.  It's okay,
you'll figure it out.  Meanwhile, I know you.  Nyah!  :-)

Gwendal (seriously, you'll figure it out)
244/165/165
Carol Frilegh - 04 Mar 2005 23:17 GMT
> > Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.
>
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> Gwendal (seriously, you'll figure it out)
> 244/165/165

Still stumped. A lot of us once weighed 244 :-)

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Ignoramus17955 - 04 Mar 2005 23:34 GMT
>> > Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.
>>
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>
> Still stumped. A lot of us once weighed 244 :-)

Not a lot of us started at 244, actually (it is a hint!)
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Gwendal - 05 Mar 2005 01:04 GMT
>>>Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.
>>
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>
> Still stumped. A lot of us once weighed 244 :-)

Geez, Carol, you're a bit thick today.  Okay, I'll give you some hints.

g Wend[_] al
gwen Dal [l _]
D [_]ll en  (okay, that one is oblique.  I like Babylon 5.)

Just please don't link all of my names because I don't want a particular
weirdo to google me.  I'm not trying to be hidden, just to do a
disconnect between names.  The guy knows my name and address and was
making "jokes" about murdering me in another group.  I'm pretty serious
about this: if I have to leave usenet completely I will (and I've pulled
back a lot) but I'd rather just be here on my own terms if I can manage it.

Gwendal
Polar Light - 05 Mar 2005 09:46 GMT
> Just please don't link all of my names because I don't want a particular
> weirdo to google me.  I'm not trying to be hidden, just to do a disconnect
> between names.  The guy knows my name and address and was making "jokes"
> about murdering me in another group.

That sounds alarming, how did he find out your real name & address from ng
posts?

Which country do you live in? (I hope this is not confidential info too, I'm
just wondering where these people live)
Nunya B. - 05 Mar 2005 14:01 GMT
>> Just please don't link all of my names because I don't want a particular
>> weirdo to google me.  I'm not trying to be hidden, just to do a
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> Which country do you live in? (I hope this is not confidential info too,
> I'm just wondering where these people live)

The amount of information about a person out there on the Internet is
staggering. One of the ways that nutcases and jerks find personal info is
that some people who have been on usenet for a long time tended to start out
using their real names until discovering how much stuff is archived.

Even though people (including myself) have changed names and emails to get
some privacy, there's always some jerk out there taking any opportunity to
"out" someone they don't like or who has the nerve to have a differing
opinion.  As the OP stated, it's not so much trying to hide anything, it's
just making it more difficult for the average idiot to get personal stuff
you don't necessarily share with people you see fact-to-face on a regular
basis.  One thing that Internet stalkers do is give out personal info in
hopes of having that person be harassed in their real life.

If a person has their own domain name registered then doing a simple whois
on the domain name will provide an address and phone number.  Some people
claim they can use in IP address to find a poster's specific location but
all you really get from an IP is the name of the ISP and a vague location
unless you're doing something illegal.

It's all of this crap that has lead people like the OP and myself (among
others) to pull back from the usenet.  There are too many pathetic geeks out
there who have no actual life and use their keyboard to rule their little
domain. It is sad for all of the cooler people out there - usenet used to be
a great place.  It used to be a place where a person could express their own
opinions, the good, the bad, and the ugly, and people could actually take an
insult or a differing thought without having to resort to immature little
stunts.

the vbchick (new name)
email goes to vbchick
Gwendal - 05 Mar 2005 23:59 GMT
>>Just please don't link all of my names because I don't want a particular
>>weirdo to google me.  I'm not trying to be hidden, just to do a disconnect
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> That sounds alarming, how did he find out your real name & address from ng
> posts?

I got on usenet with my real name 10 years ago.  I'm still active in the
same usenet communities so people know who I am from that.  In addition
to that, I have a high profile in my real life community so I'm easily
googled if you know my real name.

> Which country do you live in? (I hope this is not confidential info too, I'm
> just wondering where these people live)

I live in a country that has both usenet AND a.sholes.  Don't you?

Gwendal
Nunya B. - 05 Mar 2005 00:31 GMT
>> Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.
>
> I was being stalked on another group so I changed names.

I actually know how that feels.

vbchick
gmail is also vbchick
Carol Frilegh - 06 Mar 2005 00:24 GMT
> > Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.
>
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> Gwendal (seriously, you'll figure it out)
> 244/165/165

Do you say "Howdy" instead of Hello?"

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Gwendal - 06 Mar 2005 02:41 GMT
>>>Curious about those names as I don't recognize the current one.
>>
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>
> Do you say "Howdy" instead of Hello?"

Huh?  No.... you thinking Perple?  I'm not Perple.  My passport isn't
good in Texas.

I'm tempted to ask if you say "Eh".  But you probably wouldn't notice if
you did.

Do you seriously not get who I am yet?  Must be because I'm such a sweet
young thing that no one hardly ever minds my presence.

Here's one more hint: It's 9:30 on a Saturday night and I'm STILL at
work.  Except for using a client slot at 10 am to run a couple of miles
on the treadmill at the gym this morning, I've been at work since 8:30,
including eating both lunch and dinner at my desk.  What kind of job
makes a person do that?

BTW, do you ever see Krista?  I read her rant of the month but that's
about all I see of her these days.  I'm thinking of buying her book.
They've got it at Amazon.

Gwendal
Carol Frilegh - 06 Mar 2005 11:34 GMT
> BTW, do you ever see Krista?  I read her rant of the month but that's
> about all I see of her these days.  I'm thinking of buying her book.
> They've got it at Amazon.
>
> Gwendal

I thought of her yesterday and intend to email her. Yesterday I walked
right past where she lived the last time I was in touch.

Do you live near a big park?

Diva
Gwendal - 07 Mar 2005 00:48 GMT
>>BTW, do you ever see Krista?  I read her rant of the month but that's
>>about all I see of her these days.  I'm thinking of buying her book.
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> I thought of her yesterday and intend to email her. Yesterday I walked
> right past where she lived the last time I was in touch.

The stumptuous website has a section called "green" that shows her new
house and garden.  Her garden looks lovely.

I emailed her pictures of me doing "sammy squats" a few months ago.  I
thought she was going to put them on the webpage with some text about
how mothers find time to weightlift [literally] with their kids, but I
haven't seen it yet.  Maybe because my knees were too far forward on the
bottom of my squat.  :-)

> Do you live near a big park?

Yes, there's a park with miles of trails in it right up the road from my
 house.  I run in there with my dog in the off-season.  Once I was in
there and got lost on a blue-blazed trail on a ridge-line paralleling my
house and went for a mile being able to SEE my house but not get to it.
 It was bizarre as I'd never really noticed I had a mountain 1000 yards
away.  Isn't it weird how disconnected from nature we get?

But I don't "walk up my hill" every day and exist purely on tuna.  (Of
course, if I did I'd also not be at goal.)  :-)

Gwendal
Size 22/Size 12/Size 12  <--- having fun with goals
Nunya B. - 07 Mar 2005 00:56 GMT
> I emailed her pictures of me doing "sammy squats" a few months ago.  I
> thought she was going to put them on the webpage with some text about how
> mothers find time to weightlift [literally] with their kids, but I haven't
> seen it yet.  Maybe because my knees were too far forward on the bottom of
> my squat.  :-)

Hey, I just read an article from a fall 2004 women's fitness magazine (I
know they're a joke sometimes but I was needing a distraction on the
stairmaster).  Anyway, the article said that some researchers found it was
OK for the knees to go a little past the toes in a squat because it balances
the stress between the knees and hips.  Going too far forward stresses the
knees, staying behind or even with the toes moves the stress to the hips
from the knees.  It's probably crap but I thought I would run it past you
anyway.

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janice - 07 Mar 2005 06:55 GMT
>But I don't "walk up my hill" every day and exist purely on tuna.  (Of
>course, if I did I'd also not be at goal.)  :-)

LOL!!

>Gwendal
>Size 22/Size 12/Size 12  <--- having fun with goals

Having fun with names, too, by the look of things:)

janice
Chris Braun - 06 Mar 2005 21:25 GMT
>BTW, I just got back leafing through an old diet journal from the 80's.
>  I successfully got down to 163 once 19 years ago.  I cannot tell you
>how shocked I am that I made it to this weight now at this point in my life!

Boy, can I relate to that!  Until last summer, I hadn't weighed in the
130s since high school.  And I'm almost 57!  I'd never imagined this
happening, honestly.  Nor would I have ever imagined that I could run
for 10 km (or even a block!)  but I can.  Or compete in weightlifting.
Just goes to show it's not too late for anyone to change.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Nunya B. - 07 Mar 2005 01:43 GMT
>>BTW, I just got back leafing through an old diet journal from the 80's.
>>  I successfully got down to 163 once 19 years ago.  I cannot tell you
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> for 10 km (or even a block!)  but I can.  Or compete in weightlifting.
> Just goes to show it's not too late for anyone to change.

That's exactly why you and Gwendal are really good role models - neither of
you let your age or the amount you needed to lose deter you from meeting
your goals.  Some people would just think that they're at a point of no
return and not even bother trying.  You both (and some others around here)
show that if you're willing to make the necessary lifestyle changes anything
is possible.

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Heidi - 03 Mar 2005 21:46 GMT
Excellent and sensible journey! Thanks so much for sharing this, Gwendal.

I have been noticing myself how carbs just seem to show up if I'm not
careful, but protein doesn't happen unless I make it happen.

Heidi

> I started my weight loss journey in mid-May of 2002 weighing 244 pounds
> as a 5'6" inch 38 year old woman.  I thought of Victoria's Secret models
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> 244/164.5/165
> 42%/23%/23%
Beverly - 04 Mar 2005 02:17 GMT
> I started my weight loss journey in mid-May of 2002 weighing 244 pounds
> as a 5'6" inch 38 year old woman.  I thought of Victoria's Secret models
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> 244/164.5/165
> 42%/23%/23%

Congratulations!  You've worked hard to reach this goal - enjoy it.  Your
tri sounds like a lot of fun.  Be sure and keep us updated on the event.

Beverly
SnugBear - 04 Mar 2005 02:26 GMT
> I'm also convinced that my body will continue to improve.  The longer I
> act like a slender person the more my body resembles one.

Congratulations, Gwendal.  You have done a very cool thing.  Enjoy being
that slender person!

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janice - 04 Mar 2005 06:59 GMT
>So now I'm at my original hard to believe goal: I lost 80 pounds and
>went from 42% body fat to 23% body fat.  I'm not exactly in shape to do
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>244/164.5/165
>42%/23%/23%

Gwendal, thank you for sharing your inspiring story, and
congratulations on what you've achieved.

I admire the thoughtful approach you've given to your weight loss and
fitness journey.  I think this mental attitude will help you greatly
to maintain your loss.

janice
A Ross - 04 Mar 2005 13:54 GMT
WHOOOHOOO!

Congratulations!!!

Amy
Kasey - 05 Mar 2005 00:04 GMT
Woo hoo! Well done!

Kasey
365/213/190
Willow Darcy Shaw - 06 Mar 2005 19:27 GMT
That's fantastic Gwendal!!!  I am inspired by you!  Congratulations on
reaching goal.

We are the same height, close in age and our starting weights are close.  I
hope I can do as well.

Willow

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Willow Darcy Shaw from Atlantic Canada
Current Loss: -18 lbs
Mini Goal: lose 25 lbs by 1st week May
Ultimate Goal: lose 70 lbs

> I started my weight loss journey in mid-May of 2002 weighing 244 pounds
> as a 5'6" inch 38 year old woman.  I thought of Victoria's Secret models
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> 244/164.5/165
> 42%/23%/23%
Chris Braun - 06 Mar 2005 21:22 GMT
Congratulations, Gwendal!  I'm sorry I missed your post before --
haven't gotten the hang of reading news through Google, which is all I
have when I'm away.

You've really done this the right way!

One thing you said:

>I'm also convinced that my body will continue to improve.  The longer I
>act like a slender person the more my body resembles one.

I just want to agree with this.  That's what I'm finding.  And my
self-image and my actual appearance are beginning to align better as
well, so that it feels more natural to be this way instead of a sort
of illusion or disguise or something.

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
jmk - 07 Mar 2005 15:47 GMT
> I started my weight loss journey in mid-May of 2002 weighing 244 pounds
> as a 5'6" inch 38 year old woman.  I thought of Victoria's Secret models
[quoted text clipped - 79 lines]
> 244/164.5/165
> 42%/23%/23%

Belated congratulations to you!  I saw a reference to your post last
week but never did see the original until now.  Great work!

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