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JayJay - 05 Mar 2005 17:27 GMT I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :)
Andy - 05 Mar 2005 17:53 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. > This should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off > hand. But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) JayJay,
Ummmm... where's the engine?? ;)
Anyhow, enjoy your new ride and keep the rubber side down!
Andy '02 Nighthawk 750
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Gwendal - 06 Mar 2005 00:00 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) *sniff*
*SOB*
I wanna new bike!
Gwendal, looking at a Giant OCR
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 00:39 GMT > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Gwendal, looking at a Giant OCR You deserve a new bike<g> Consider it a reward for reaching goal.
Giant makes good bikes. You'll probably find a good bike shop is just as important as the bike. Be sure to find one you like before buying.
Beverly
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 00:27 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 00:31 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Congrats on the new bike. I have a couple Giant hybrids sitting in my garage. My daughter still rides hers but the granddaughters have taken over mine since I bought the road bike.
Cypress is a popular model for the hybrids. That's the one I have. It should be written on the frame of the bike.
Have fun with it.
Beverly
JayJay - 06 Mar 2005 04:03 GMT > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. > This [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Have fun with it. yeah - that's the one... cypress dx. Its gonna take some getting used to with riding and tweeking to get the best comfort. But I aleady see a huge speed improvement in just today's biking. With my fugi, my average speed was 12mph on a ride and I overpowered the bike at 16mph. With the new one, I hit 17mph before I got to the next door neighbor's driveway.
But, so far I feel like the seat and handlebars are too close together, so I got to tweek it to get it right.
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 13:13 GMT > > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. > > This [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > But, so far I feel like the seat and handlebars are too close together, so I > got to tweek it to get it right. If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be happy to help you. They like people coming back into the shop. It gives you a chance to look at all those neat bike accessories you just can't live without<g>
I predict next year you'll be wanting a road bike for even more speed<g> I've never been a fast rider. I switched to the road bike so I could keep up with the grandkids and the other bike patrolmen. I still tend to poke along at 10-14 mph when I'm riding alone but find it much easier to maintain 15-17 mph when riding with the more experienced patrolmen. Shortly after I bought it I tried it on the flats and found I could easily reach 22 mph if I paid attention to the gears. I'm just too much of a stop and smell the roses rider to ride at higher speeds all the time.
Here's an article that might give you some pointers on the adjustments. http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm
Have fun on it.
Beverly
JayJay - 07 Mar 2005 14:11 GMT > If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be happy > to help you. They like people coming back into the shop. It gives you a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Have fun on it. <covers ears> la, la, la, la, la...
I don't want to hear that! I just bought this thing and DH would kill me if I go out and buy another bike. I told the guy at the shop what I wanted. (in that when DH and I ride together, I have no chance in hell with keeping up with him if I'm on my mountain bike, as my average speed on that is about 12mph and my top speed is 16mph.)
I told him I wasn't interested in bike racing, but more for fun and cardio exercise. He recommended this bike. ANd of course, on bikes - no refunds or exchanges after they leave the shop (which I think is a sucky concept!) but this policy applies for all the bike shops in town. We checked out the Schwinn shop and the 3rd one that caries other brands.
Beverly - 08 Mar 2005 01:28 GMT > > If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be happy > > to help you. They like people coming back into the shop. It gives you a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > but this policy applies for all the bike shops in town. We checked out > the Schwinn shop and the 3rd one that caries other brands. The hybrid is perfect for the rides you do. They were what the bike shop recommended for me a few years ago. Now that I want to do longer distances the road bike suits me better. I still ride my hybrid around town for errands, etc.
I also find it easier to climb those hills in the nearby reserve on the road bike. I never could peddle that hybrid up those hills<g>
Beverly
JayJay - 08 Mar 2005 01:42 GMT > The hybrid is perfect for the rides you do. They were what the bike shop > recommended for me a few years ago. Now that I want to do longer distances [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I also find it easier to climb those hills in the nearby reserve on the road > bike. I never could peddle that hybrid up those hills<g> BAH! If I could do a hill on the mountain bike - a hill on the hybrid will be a cake walk. I find standing while riding is so much easier on the hybrid than the mountain bike.
Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:22 GMT >> > If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be > happy [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > road > bike. I never could peddle that hybrid up those hills<g> Well, this makes me feel better, because I have a hell of a time with hills on my hybrid.
Mary
Matthew - 07 Mar 2005 14:22 GMT > > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. > > This [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > But, so far I feel like the seat and handlebars are too close together, so I > got to tweek it to get it right. I hope that you got the right size bike. IIRC, the Cypress has an adjustable stem so you can play around with that a bit. You might also consider bar ends. Did you get the "ladies" model Cypress? -- Matthew 185/177/160 To reply by e-mail, heat things up a bit.
JayJay - 07 Mar 2005 14:30 GMT > I hope that you got the right size bike. IIRC, the Cypress has an adjustable > stem so you can play around with that a bit. You might also consider bar > ends. Did you get the "ladies" model Cypress? Well - based on my size (at 5'3") and the shop owners suggestion, I got the right size. At first I was looking at the mens - especially the ones with the slight drop in the cross bar - but all the ones in the shop were too big. The 17" and 15" were too big, and they didn't have any 14" ones.
So I looked at the womans, which actually allowed me to get a slightly bigger frame. Its just that I've always ridden mens bikes - which in general, have a longer reach, so that is how I'm accustomed to riding.
I've already adjusted the seat to slide as far back as possible, and now have to adjust the front stem forward as well - to try to get the reach I'm used to. As I was riding on Saturday I found I kept wanting to sit further back in the seat.
Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm complaining - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat. (my other seat is a gel w/ the center cutout hole to be a bit more comfortable for women).
I'm used to leaning over and reaching while riding - and not so used to sitting up. Although I find I get much more power and its much more comfortable to ride standing on this bike. On my other, when I stand and ride I wear out so very quickly and I think its due to the stance.
I've also noticed that this bike works out the upper portion of my quads more. Wherease the mountain bike uses more of the lower quads when I'm trying to get power. Its all got to be in the way I'm sitting and the reach I'm getting.
Overall - its just "different" all around.
jmk - 07 Mar 2005 16:11 GMT > Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm complaining > - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat. (my other seat is a > gel w/ the center cutout hole to be a bit more comfortable for women). Speaking of bike saddles -- I think that I am going to replace the saddle that came with my Trek 2200. I had a Terry Liberator on my previous bike (well, it's still there actually!) but I am thinking of trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one. Any recommendations for ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year).
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Matthew - 07 Mar 2005 16:45 GMT > > Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm complaining > > - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat. (my other seat is a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one. Any recommendations for > ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year). That's easy. Assuming you liked the Terry Liberator on your old bike, I recommend...
The Terry Liberator :) -- Matthew 185/177/160 To reply by e-mail, heat things up a bit.
jmk - 07 Mar 2005 16:48 GMT >>>Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > That's easy. Assuming you liked the Terry Liberator on your old bike, I > recommend... I'll respond even though I doubt you've used a women's bike saddle. Matthew, and you are therefore not commenting based on any sort of personal experience.
Sometimes I think that the nose could have been longer and the Butterfly addresses that. Also, as I sated, I am planning on riding more distance this year and perhaps one is better than the other for distance.
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Matthew - 07 Mar 2005 17:13 GMT > >>>Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Matthew, and you are therefore not commenting based on any sort of > personal experience. I'm commenting based on your personal experience which is far more important to you than my personal experience. Saddles are an area which individual preferences are very important; the saddle that is a pain in the a.s to me might be very comfortable to you. FWIW I have used several "women's" saddles.
> Sometimes I think that the nose could have been longer and the Butterfly > addresses that. Also, as I sated, I am planning on riding more > distance this year and perhaps one is better than the other for distance. Well there is your answer but I don't think distance is so much a factor as is riding position. And try to ignore the whole designation between women's and men's saddles. Most men's saddles will have the longer nose you are looking for. -- Matthew 185/177/160 To reply by e-mail, heat things up a bit.
Beverly - 07 Mar 2005 17:59 GMT > > Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm complaining > > - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat. (my other seat is a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > saddle that came with my Trek 2200. I had a Terry Liberator on my > previous bike (well, it's still there actually!) but I am thinking of
> trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one. Any recommendations for > ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year). > > -- > jmk in NC I have the Liberator on my bike but I've been thinking about replacing it this year. I find it leaves me slightly numb on longer rides (35+ miles). I've heard some good reviews on Specialized Alias and Avater. According to the Specailized website my local bike shop sells them. I may ask to give one a trial spin the next time I visit. It's about time to take the bike in for a spring tune-up before biking season gets into full swing around here.
Beverly
JayJay - 07 Mar 2005 18:21 GMT >> Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to. Not that I'm complaining >> - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat. (my other seat is a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one. Any recommendations for > ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year). I can't recall what brand my old seat is. What is nice is the whole cut out in a very strategicly placed area that is then covered by the gel and the cover. But this means there is just soft cushion under your most sensitive pelvic area. (on the seat, its right where the front begins to narrow)
Although I have to say - the amount of gel used on my old seat is not as much as that used on the new seat. I like the additional cushion on the new seat, although I'm not used to the wideness of it yet. (its a bit wider than the old seat).
The new seat is whatever comes standard on the Giant bikes. I haven't gone for a long ride yet, so I can't comment on its comfort from that standpoint. I've really only gone for a bunch of little 3mile rides to get the adjustments down. My ride yesterday got thwarted. I got busy in the yard and lost track of time, then wound up with a hunger headache and dizzyness that put a damper on any ride attempts for the day.
Paul Turner - 07 Mar 2005 22:10 GMT > Speaking of bike saddles -- I think that I am going to replace the saddle > that came with my Trek 2200. I had a Terry Liberator on my previous bike > (well, it's still there actually!) but I am thinking of trying the Terry > Butterfly on the new one. Any recommendations for ladies road saddles > (planning on doing even more distance work this year). For me, the most comfortable saddle, by far, is a hard leather Brookes saddle. I know this is a counterintuitive approach, but many experienced long-distance cyclists agree (try asking the question on rec.bicycles.misc and you'll see). The theory behind this is that underneath the fat and muscle of the human bottom are two rounded bony arches, the ischial tuberosities (or sit bones). Those should be carrying the rider's weight. On a gel saddle, the sit bones sink into the soft surface, so that the perineum, the soft tissues between the sit bones, end up supporting some of the body's weight as well.
Because they're soft and spread weight over a wide area, get saddles feel great at first, but that doesn't last. In the long run, pressure against the perineum will cause local pain. Soft saddles can also lead to numbness the areas served by nerves and blood vessels passing through the perineum. Seats with cut-outs are one way of trying to deal with this, but a harder saddle remains the choice of many. It takes a little getting used to, but a real leather saddle (not a leather covered plastic one, but thick leather stretched over a frame) molds to the rider's anatomy and soon fits like the proverbial glove.
I know reasonable minds (and butts) sometimes differ on the question of saddles, but speaking as someone who's ridden centuries on a leather saddle and who's ridden over 300 miles since January 1, despite Chicago winter weather, a Brookes saddle can be the most comfortable choice in the long run.
-- Paul Turner
GaryG - 07 Mar 2005 23:42 GMT > > Speaking of bike saddles -- I think that I am going to replace the saddle > > that came with my Trek 2200. I had a Terry Liberator on my previous bike [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > -- > Paul Turner Ditto the "harder saddle = more comfort" recommendation. A good pair of cycling shorts will take the sting out of the road, and a few hundred miles of riding will harden your rear end enough so that you won't miss the squishy feeling of a gel saddle.
FWIW, when selecting a saddle, try to get one that's just wide enough at the back to support your "sit bones", but no wider. Women tend to have sit bones spaced further apart, so they typically need slightly wider saddles (but, everybody's butt is different so you can't depend on what someone else recommends).
My personal favorite is the uber-minimalist Selle Itialia SLR (a saddle that weighs about 75% less than a Brooks, but typically won't last as long).
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Nunya B. - 06 Mar 2005 01:27 GMT >I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. >This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) I love my hybrid (Trek). Compared to the mountain bike it was a major improvement for the roads and trails I normally ride. Enjoy it!!!
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SnugBear - 06 Mar 2005 02:07 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. > This should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off > hand. But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Good for you JayJay!! The temperature went above 30 degrees today and I actually speculated on getting out my bike. I sure miss it.
I went for a run instead <g>
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Delenn - 06 Mar 2005 03:06 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Okay, I'm over envying you. Now can I go with you? (And ride your old one?) I'll be in your town from the evening of Monday, April 18th through the morning of Monday, April 25th.
I'm hoping to catch some discount cruise during that week sometime (last minute deal or we can't go: we're broke this year due to expensive children.
Gwendal the Mysterious
JayJay - 06 Mar 2005 04:05 GMT > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Gwendal the Mysterious oh.. well.. if you'll be in town - certainly you can ride the old one!
and I'm on lists for cruises, I'll start keeping my eye out there for you too.
Gloria - 08 Mar 2005 16:14 GMT Can't wait to get my Trek out this spring! I never know IF I can ride but I ALWAYS try:) So far I'm able to ride but I'm with little balance tis year. I WILL try. Last year I fell over banks and into bushes but it was still GOOD to ride:) Life IS what we make it:)
Jay Jay, you are doing so well. You keep getting better and better! You go girl!
glo
Beverly - 09 Mar 2005 01:27 GMT > Can't wait to get my Trek out this spring! I never know IF I can ride > but I ALWAYS try:) So far I'm able to ride but I'm with little balance > tis year. I WILL try. Last year I fell over banks and into bushes but it > was still GOOD to ride:) Life IS what we make it:) Have you considered trying a three wheel bike, Glo? We have a couple riders who attend the biking program who ride them. I've often thought I might switch to one when I start feeling uncomfortable on a regular bike. I'm looking forward to spring also so I can get out there and ride again. Be careful.
Beverly
GaryG - 06 Mar 2005 14:24 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Good for you! But be warned...it can become a major addiction. I got back into cycling 15 years ago, and my life now revolves around it. Part of my software business involves a cycling program, my vacations are week-long cycling tours, and I lead and teach other riders. The downside is, whenever I walk in the door of a bike shop I can feel my credit cards begin to twitch in my wallet!
FWIW, cycling is a very good form of exercise, and a very time-efficient way to burn calories. The rule of thumb for cycling is 40 calories per mile.
Depending on where you're riding, you may want to get a mirror. Not all cyclists use them, but I find they increase my situational awareness on the road, and allow me to be more assertive when necessary. The best one I've found is the Take a Look brand: http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=4043
Welcome to the road...enjoy!
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JayJay - 06 Mar 2005 14:39 GMT > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. > This [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Welcome to the road...enjoy! LOL... I've been on the road for years. :) Generally I ride 15 - 20 miles on weeknights during daylight savings time. And even longer rides on the weekends. But I've been doing it with a mountain bike and I'll go off road when I like and onroad at other times. We've had our fair share of mountain biking vacations to hte NC mountains.
Beverly - 07 Mar 2005 18:11 GMT > Depending on where you're riding, you may want to get a mirror. Not all > cyclists use them, but I find they increase my situational awareness on the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.CycliStats.com > CycliStats - Software for Cyclists I tried one of the helmet mirrors and found it way too distracting for me. I have the bar end type and really like it. The only problem I had was the mirror section blew out on the highway when I was transporting the bike. The LBS installed a new one for me and now I cover it when it's on the bike rack. The LBS said this shouldn't be necessary as they felt the original one was probably defective and offered to replace any that lost the mirror section. I don't think they realize I sometimes transport this thing for hundreds of miles at interstate speeds<g>
Beverly
GaryG - 07 Mar 2005 19:40 GMT > > Depending on where you're riding, you may want to get a mirror. Not > all [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Beverly I previously used an inexpensive "CatEye" brand bar end mirror. It was a simple, round flat plastic mirror that installs in the bar end. The plastic construction seemed to soak up some of the road vibration that normally affects bar mounted mirrors. Among the bar end brands I've tried this one was the best (and, it only cost around $6 US).
But I now much prefer the glasses-mounted Take a Look mirror. They do take some getting used to, but once you do they work very well. I especially like the fact that I can use them in all riding riding position (on the hoods, in the drops, or even on aero bars), something that's generally not possible with bar end mirrors. They also vibrate much less, and allow me to "sweep" the entire road behind with a small head movement, even when riding on roads with curves.
I've only found two problems associated with glasses-mounted mirrors (aside from the initial learning curve):
1) they create a bit of a blind spot for your forward vision. This can be resolved by positioning the mirror above your line of sight, and being careful to look around it when approaching intersections.
2) they give you a distinctly "alien" appearance when you're off the bike
:-). FWIW - here's one of the best reviews I've seen of different mirror systems for cycling: http://www.icebike.com/Equipment/cyclingmirrors.htm
GG
jmk - 07 Mar 2005 16:08 GMT > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Congrats! Enjoy!
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Renegade5 - 07 Mar 2005 22:10 GMT >I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. This >should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > >Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. >But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) Can't go wrong with a 'Giant'. Great bike - consistently rated as a good bike at a good price.
Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:19 GMT >I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks. >This > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking. > > Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand. > But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride. :) I have a hybrid too and I love it! Mine is a Gary Fisher. Congratulations on the new bike!
Mary
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