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JayJay - 05 Mar 2005 17:27 GMT
I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.

Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)
Andy - 05 Mar 2005 17:53 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
>  This should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off
> hand. But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

JayJay,

Ummmm... where's the engine?? ;)

Anyhow, enjoy your new ride and keep the rubber side down!

Andy
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Gwendal - 06 Mar 2005 00:00 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

*sniff*

*SOB*

I wanna new bike!

Gwendal, looking at a Giant OCR
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 00:39 GMT
> > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
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>
> Gwendal, looking at a Giant OCR

You deserve a new bike<g>  Consider it a reward for reaching goal.

Giant makes good bikes.  You'll probably find a good bike shop is just as
important as the bike.  Be sure to find one you like before buying.

Beverly
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 00:27 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 00:31 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

Congrats on the new bike.  I have a couple Giant hybrids sitting in my
garage.  My daughter still rides hers but the granddaughters have taken over
mine since I bought the road bike.

Cypress is a popular model for the hybrids.  That's the one I have.  It
should be written on the frame of the bike.

Have fun with it.

Beverly
JayJay - 06 Mar 2005 04:03 GMT
> > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
> This
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>
> Have fun with it.

yeah - that's the one...  cypress dx.   Its gonna take some getting used to
with riding and tweeking to get the best comfort.  But I aleady see a huge
speed improvement in just today's biking.   With my fugi, my average speed
was 12mph on a ride and I overpowered the bike at 16mph.   With the new one,
I hit 17mph before I got to the next door neighbor's driveway.

But, so far I feel like the seat and handlebars are too close together, so I
got to tweek it to get it right.
Beverly - 06 Mar 2005 13:13 GMT
> > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
> > This
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> But, so far I feel like the seat and handlebars are too close together, so I
> got to tweek it to get it right.

If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be happy
to help you.  They like people coming back into the shop.  It gives you a
chance to look at all those neat bike accessories you just can't live
without<g>

I predict next year you'll be wanting a road bike for even more speed<g>
I've never been a fast rider.  I switched to the road bike so I could keep
up with the grandkids and the other bike patrolmen.  I still tend to poke
along at 10-14 mph when I'm riding alone but find it much easier to maintain
15-17 mph when riding with the more experienced patrolmen.  Shortly after I
bought it I tried it on the flats and found I could easily reach 22 mph if I
paid attention to the gears.  I'm just too much of a stop and smell the
roses rider to ride at higher speeds all the time.

Here's an article that might give you some pointers on the adjustments.
http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.htm

Have fun on it.

Beverly
JayJay - 07 Mar 2005 14:11 GMT
> If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be happy
> to help you.  They like people coming back into the shop.  It gives you a
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>
> Have fun on it.

<covers ears>   la, la, la, la, la...

I don't want to hear that!   I just bought this thing and DH would kill me
if I go out and buy another bike.   I told the guy at the shop what I
wanted.  (in that when DH and I ride together, I have no chance in hell
with keeping up with him if I'm on my mountain bike, as my average speed on
that is about 12mph and my top speed is 16mph.)

I told him I wasn't interested in bike racing, but more for fun and cardio
exercise.  He recommended this bike.  ANd of course, on bikes - no refunds
or exchanges after they leave the shop (which I think is a sucky concept!)
but this policy applies for all the bike shops in town.   We checked out
the Schwinn shop and the 3rd one that caries other brands.  
Beverly - 08 Mar 2005 01:28 GMT
> > If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be happy
> > to help you.  They like people coming back into the shop.  It gives you a
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> but this policy applies for all the bike shops in town.   We checked out
> the Schwinn shop and the 3rd one that caries other brands.

The hybrid is perfect for the rides you do.  They were what the bike shop
recommended for me a few years ago.  Now that I want to do longer distances
the road bike suits me better.  I still ride my hybrid around town for
errands, etc.

I also find it easier to climb those hills in the nearby reserve on the road
bike.  I never could peddle that hybrid up those hills<g>

Beverly
JayJay - 08 Mar 2005 01:42 GMT
> The hybrid is perfect for the rides you do.  They were what the bike shop
> recommended for me a few years ago.  Now that I want to do longer distances
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> I also find it easier to climb those hills in the nearby reserve on the road
> bike.  I never could peddle that hybrid up those hills<g>

BAH!   If I could do a hill on the mountain bike - a hill on the hybrid will
be a cake walk.   I find standing while riding is so much easier on the
hybrid than the mountain bike.
Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:22 GMT
>> > If you have any problems getting it adjusted the bike shop should be
> happy
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> road
> bike.  I never could peddle that hybrid up those hills<g>

Well, this makes me feel better, because I have a hell of a time with hills
on my hybrid.

Mary
Matthew - 07 Mar 2005 14:22 GMT
> > > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
> > This
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> But, so far I feel like the seat and handlebars are too close together, so I
> got to tweek it to get it right.

I hope that you got the right size bike. IIRC, the Cypress has an adjustable
stem so you can play around with that a bit. You might also consider bar
ends. Did you get the "ladies" model Cypress?
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JayJay - 07 Mar 2005 14:30 GMT
> I hope that you got the right size bike. IIRC, the Cypress has an adjustable
> stem so you can play around with that a bit. You might also consider bar
> ends. Did you get the "ladies" model Cypress?

Well - based on my size (at 5'3") and the shop owners suggestion, I got the
right size.   At first I was looking at the mens - especially the ones with
the slight drop in the cross bar - but all the ones in the shop were too
big.  The 17" and 15" were too big, and they didn't have any 14" ones.  

So I looked at the womans, which actually allowed me to get a slightly
bigger frame.  Its just that I've always ridden mens bikes - which in
general, have a longer reach, so that is how I'm accustomed to riding.  

I've already adjusted the seat to slide as far back as possible, and now
have to adjust the front stem forward as well - to try to get the reach I'm
used to.  As I was riding on Saturday I found I kept wanting to sit further
back in the seat.

Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm complaining
- the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat.  (my other seat is a
gel w/ the center cutout hole to be a bit more comfortable for women).

I'm used to leaning over and reaching while riding - and not so used to
sitting up.  Although I find I get much more power and its much more
comfortable to ride standing on this bike.  On my other, when I stand and
ride I wear out so very quickly and I think its due to the stance.

I've also noticed that this bike works out the upper portion of my quads
more.  Wherease the mountain bike uses more of the lower quads when I'm
trying to get power.   Its all got to be in the way I'm sitting and the
reach I'm getting.  

Overall - its just "different" all around.  
jmk - 07 Mar 2005 16:11 GMT
> Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm complaining
> - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat.  (my other seat is a
> gel w/ the center cutout hole to be a bit more comfortable for women).

Speaking of bike saddles -- I think that I am going to replace the
saddle that came with my Trek 2200.  I had a Terry Liberator on my
previous bike (well, it's still there actually!) but I am thinking of
trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one.  Any recommendations for
ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year).

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Matthew - 07 Mar 2005 16:45 GMT
> > Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm complaining
> > - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat.  (my other seat is a
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> trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one.  Any recommendations for
> ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year).

That's easy. Assuming you liked the Terry Liberator on your old bike, I
recommend...

The Terry Liberator :)
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jmk - 07 Mar 2005 16:48 GMT
>>>Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm
>
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> That's easy. Assuming you liked the Terry Liberator on your old bike, I
> recommend...

I'll respond even though I doubt you've used a women's bike saddle.
Matthew, and you are therefore not commenting based on any sort of
personal experience.

Sometimes I think that the nose could have been longer and the Butterfly
 addresses that.  Also, as I sated, I am planning on riding more
distance this year and perhaps one is better than the other for distance.

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Matthew - 07 Mar 2005 17:13 GMT
> >>>Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm
> >
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> Matthew, and you are therefore not commenting based on any sort of
> personal experience.

I'm commenting based on your personal experience which is far more important
to you than my personal experience. Saddles are an area which individual
preferences are very important; the saddle that is a pain in the a.s to me
might be very comfortable to you. FWIW I have used several "women's"
saddles.

> Sometimes I think that the nose could have been longer and the Butterfly
>   addresses that.  Also, as I sated, I am planning on riding more
> distance this year and perhaps one is better than the other for distance.

Well there is your answer but I don't think distance is so much a factor as
is riding position. And try to ignore the whole designation between women's
and men's saddles. Most men's saddles will have the longer nose you are
looking for.
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Beverly - 07 Mar 2005 17:59 GMT
> > Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm complaining
> > - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat.  (my other seat is a
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> saddle that came with my Trek 2200.  I had a Terry Liberator on my
> previous bike (well, it's still there actually!) but I am thinking of

> trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one.  Any recommendations for
> ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year).
>
> --
> jmk in NC

I have the Liberator on my bike but I've been thinking about replacing
it this year.  I find it leaves me slightly numb on longer rides (35+
miles).  I've heard some good reviews on Specialized Alias and Avater.
According to the Specailized website my local bike shop sells them.  I
may ask to give one a trial spin the next time I visit.  It's about
time to take the bike in for a spring tune-up before biking season gets
into full swing around here.  

Beverly
JayJay - 07 Mar 2005 18:21 GMT
>> Also, this seat is a bit larger than I'm used to.  Not that I'm complaining
>> - the gel cusion is better quality than my other seat.  (my other seat is a
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> trying the Terry Butterfly on the new one.  Any recommendations for
> ladies road saddles (planning on doing even more distance work this year).

I can't recall what brand my old seat is.   What is nice is the whole cut
out in a very strategicly placed area that is then covered by the gel and
the cover.  But this means there is just soft cushion under your most
sensitive pelvic area.  (on the seat, its right where the front begins to
narrow)

Although I have to say - the amount of gel used on my old seat is not as
much as that used on the new seat.   I like the additional cushion on the
new seat, although I'm not used to the wideness of it yet.  (its a bit
wider than the old seat).

The new seat is whatever comes standard on the Giant bikes.  I haven't gone
for a long ride yet, so I can't comment on its comfort from that
standpoint.   I've really only gone for a bunch of little 3mile rides to
get the adjustments down.    My ride yesterday got thwarted.  I got busy in
the yard and lost track of time, then wound up with a hunger headache and
dizzyness that put a damper on any ride attempts for the day.  
Paul Turner - 07 Mar 2005 22:10 GMT
> Speaking of bike saddles -- I think that I am going to replace the saddle
> that came with my Trek 2200.  I had a Terry Liberator on my previous bike
> (well, it's still there actually!) but I am thinking of trying the Terry
> Butterfly on the new one.  Any recommendations for ladies road saddles
> (planning on doing even more distance work this year).

For me, the most comfortable saddle, by far, is a hard leather Brookes
saddle. I know this is a counterintuitive approach, but many experienced
long-distance cyclists agree (try asking the question on rec.bicycles.misc
and you'll see). The theory behind this is that underneath the fat and
muscle of the human bottom are two rounded bony arches, the ischial
tuberosities (or sit bones). Those should be carrying the rider's weight. On
a gel saddle, the sit bones sink into the soft surface, so that the
perineum, the soft tissues between the sit bones, end up supporting some of
the body's weight as well.

Because they're soft and spread weight over a wide area, get saddles feel
great at first, but that doesn't last. In the long run, pressure against the
perineum will cause local pain. Soft saddles can also lead to numbness the
areas served by nerves and blood vessels passing through the perineum. Seats
with cut-outs are one way of trying to deal with this, but a harder saddle
remains the choice of many. It takes a little getting used to, but a real
leather saddle (not a leather covered plastic one, but thick leather
stretched over a frame) molds to the rider's anatomy and soon fits like the
proverbial glove.

I know reasonable minds (and butts) sometimes differ on the question of
saddles, but speaking as someone who's ridden centuries on a leather saddle
and who's ridden over 300 miles since January 1, despite Chicago winter
weather, a Brookes saddle can be the most comfortable choice in the long
run.

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GaryG - 07 Mar 2005 23:42 GMT
> > Speaking of bike saddles -- I think that I am going to replace the saddle
> > that came with my Trek 2200.  I had a Terry Liberator on my previous bike
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> --
> Paul Turner

Ditto the "harder saddle = more comfort" recommendation.  A good pair of
cycling shorts will take the sting out of the road, and a few hundred miles
of riding will harden your rear end enough so that you won't miss the
squishy feeling of a gel saddle.

FWIW, when selecting a saddle, try to get one that's just wide enough at the
back to support your "sit bones", but no wider.  Women tend to have sit
bones spaced further apart, so they typically need slightly wider saddles
(but, everybody's butt is different so you can't depend on what someone else
recommends).

My personal favorite is the uber-minimalist Selle Itialia SLR (a saddle that
weighs about 75% less than a Brooks, but typically won't last as long).

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Nunya B. - 06 Mar 2005 01:27 GMT
>I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
>This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

I love my hybrid (Trek).  Compared to the mountain bike it was a major
improvement for the roads and trails I normally ride.  Enjoy it!!!

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SnugBear - 06 Mar 2005 02:07 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
>  This should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off
> hand. But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

Good for you JayJay!!  The temperature went above 30 degrees today and I
actually speculated on getting out my bike.  I sure miss it.

I went for a run instead <g>

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Delenn - 06 Mar 2005 03:06 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

Okay, I'm over envying you.  Now can I go with you?  (And ride your old
one?)  I'll be in your town from the evening of Monday, April 18th
through the morning of Monday, April 25th.

I'm hoping to catch some discount cruise during that week sometime (last
minute deal or we can't go: we're broke this year due to expensive children.

Gwendal the Mysterious
JayJay - 06 Mar 2005 04:05 GMT
> > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> > should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
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>
> Gwendal the Mysterious

oh..  well..  if you'll be in town - certainly you can ride the old one!

and I'm on lists for cruises, I'll start keeping my eye out there for you
too.
Gloria - 08 Mar 2005 16:14 GMT
Can't wait to  get my Trek out this spring! I never know IF I can ride
but I ALWAYS try:) So far I'm able to ride but I'm with little balance
tis year. I WILL try. Last year I fell over banks and into bushes but it
was still GOOD to ride:) Life IS what we make it:)

Jay Jay, you are doing so well. You keep getting better and better! You
go girl!

glo

                       
Beverly - 09 Mar 2005 01:27 GMT
> Can't wait to  get my Trek out this spring! I never know IF I can ride
> but I ALWAYS try:) So far I'm able to ride but I'm with little balance
> tis year. I WILL try. Last year I fell over banks and into bushes but it
> was still GOOD to ride:) Life IS what we make it:)

Have you considered trying a three wheel bike, Glo?  We have a couple riders
who attend the biking program who ride them.  I've often thought I might
switch to one when I start feeling uncomfortable on a regular bike.  I'm
looking forward to spring also so I can get out there and ride again.  Be
careful.

Beverly
GaryG - 06 Mar 2005 14:24 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

Good for you!  But be warned...it can become a major addiction.  I got back
into cycling 15 years ago, and my life now revolves around it.  Part of my
software business involves a cycling program, my vacations are week-long
cycling tours, and I lead and teach other riders.  The downside is, whenever
I walk in the door of a bike shop I can feel my credit cards begin to twitch
in my wallet!

FWIW, cycling is a very good form of exercise, and a very time-efficient way
to burn calories.  The rule of thumb for cycling is 40 calories per mile.

Depending on where you're riding, you may want to get a mirror.  Not all
cyclists use them, but I find they increase my situational awareness on the
road, and allow me to be more assertive when necessary.  The best one I've
found is the Take a Look brand:
http://www.teamestrogen.com/products.asp?pID=4043

Welcome to the road...enjoy!

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JayJay - 06 Mar 2005 14:39 GMT
> > I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
> This
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>
> Welcome to the road...enjoy!

LOL... I've been on the road for years.  :)   Generally I ride 15 - 20 miles
on weeknights during daylight savings time.  And even longer rides on the
weekends.   But I've been doing it with a mountain bike and I'll go off road
when I like and onroad at other times.   We've had our fair share of
mountain biking vacations to hte NC mountains.
Beverly - 07 Mar 2005 18:11 GMT
> Depending on where you're riding, you may want to get a mirror.  Not all
> cyclists use them, but I find they increase my situational awareness on the
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I tried one of the helmet mirrors and found it way too distracting for
me.  I have the bar end type and really like it.  The only problem I
had was the mirror section blew out on the highway when I was
transporting the bike.  The LBS installed a new one for me and now I
cover it when it's on the bike rack.  The LBS said this shouldn't be
necessary as they felt the original one was probably defective and
offered to replace any that lost the mirror section.  I don't think
they realize I sometimes transport this thing for hundreds of miles at
interstate speeds<g>  

Beverly
GaryG - 07 Mar 2005 19:40 GMT
> > Depending on where you're riding, you may want to get a mirror.  Not
> all
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>
> Beverly

I previously used an inexpensive "CatEye" brand bar end mirror.  It was a
simple, round flat plastic mirror that installs in the bar end.  The plastic
construction seemed to soak up some of the road vibration that normally
affects bar mounted mirrors.  Among the bar end brands I've tried this one
was the best (and, it only cost around $6 US).

But I now much prefer the glasses-mounted Take a Look mirror.  They do take
some getting used to, but once you do they work very well.  I especially
like the fact that I can use them in all riding riding position (on the
hoods, in the drops, or even on aero bars), something that's generally not
possible with bar end mirrors.  They also vibrate much less, and allow me to
"sweep" the entire road behind with a small head movement, even when riding
on roads with curves.

I've only found two problems associated with glasses-mounted mirrors (aside
from the initial learning curve):

1) they create a bit of a blind spot for your forward vision.  This can be
resolved by positioning the mirror above your line of sight, and being
careful to look around it when approaching intersections.

2) they give you a distinctly "alien" appearance when you're off the bike
:-).

FWIW - here's one of the best reviews I've seen of different mirror systems
for cycling:
http://www.icebike.com/Equipment/cyclingmirrors.htm

GG
jmk - 07 Mar 2005 16:08 GMT
> I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

Congrats!  Enjoy!

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Renegade5 - 07 Mar 2005 22:10 GMT
>I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.   This
>should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
>Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
>But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

Can't go wrong with a 'Giant'.  Great bike - consistently rated as a
good bike at a good price.
Mary M/Ohio - 08 Mar 2005 14:19 GMT
>I finally got out and got a new hybrid bike for my road biking treks.
>This
> should allow me to ride much faster when I'm street biking.
>
> Brand name wise - its a Giant - and I can't recall which model off hand.
> But I'm totally looking forward to my first good ride.  :)

I have a hybrid too and I love it! Mine is a Gary Fisher. Congratulations on
the new bike!

Mary
 
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