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SusanLewis - 05 Mar 2005 19:39 GMT
Been awhile since I've posted here, so... Hi!

I catch myself saying "I need to check in" and then I never do. Life has
been busy as hell for me recently and I actually have to make time to get
online. So here I am.

As far as my WOE is going, I fallen off the wagon for about 10 weeks now, I
got lazy and distracted and ended up putting about 16 lbs back on that I am
re-determined to get off. I've got the old way of thinking back in my head
and I know that I have to stop what I'm doing to myself or it will just make
things worse. It started out with excuses in my exercise "too hot, too
windy, too cold, too rainy, too busy, too tired, kids need me, hubby needs
me, cat needs me" And then carried over into my eating, with excuses like
"one more wont hurt, I will change it tomorrow. " A nibble here, a nibble
there turns into a full snack, or a overblown meal or simply "screw it, I'm
gonna enjoy myself"

The bad stuff is back
The acid reflex
The feeling crappy
The skin issues I've had most of my life which went away with carb control
The sleep patterns being messed up
And of course, the weight.

I found myself quitting fitday.com all together, I don't think I've posted a
full day there in 2.5 months. I feel like I'm lying to myself half the time.
I haven't touched my bike or treadmill in ages.
I am truly pissed off at myself for letting this happen, which is catch22 as
most of us know.

I am scared of what has been happening to me and I know how I can lie to
myself and make excuses. I guess I have forgotten how GOOD I felt when the
lb's were dropping off me without as much work as I thought it would be in
the beginning. I can't even cram myself into my jeans I was in at Christmas,
which truly makes me mad at myself. I feel awful. I want to blame everything
except me, but I know in my heart of hearts that no one can change me (good
or bad) but me. The compliments from friends and family are gone, and the
knowing looks they pass between themselves when they think I am not seeing
them are back, as if to say 'Suz is getting up there again' - Grrr. I feel
like such a failure.

I made some half a.s lame attempt to buy the book that 'Gwendal' used to
recommend to me called Fattitudes and they didn't have it at Barnes and
Noble - and so I let the idea of buying it go the moment they said they
didn't have it. Not that I would have read it anyhow.

What is it in our psychological makeup that makes a person do this to
themselves, to get off track, to unintentionally sabotage their health and
well being? I guess I won't ever figure that out.

So, I am going to spend the remainder of today reviewing my old posts here,
and catching up on yall,  revamping fitday.com so that it is current for me.
Take some time to do some meal planning that works for both me and my
family. I am going to go for a walk this afternoon at the track and do some
thinking. Tonight when I get home I am going to weigh/measure and begin
anew.

I have the tools, I simply have to use them - I am going to keep telling
that to myself.

Let me serve as a lesson to all of us out there that thought we had
"mastered" the art of getting fit and healthy.

Thanks
Susan
280/184/140
Ignoramus28861 - 05 Mar 2005 19:59 GMT
sh.t happens, it takes some people much longer than you to get back on
track. Have you taken any blood sugar measurements? I hope that you
are fine in that respect, but acid reflux etc make me wonder. Good
luck... I feel for you...

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Gilligan - 05 Mar 2005 20:00 GMT
Hey Susan,

Welcome to the club.  (I'm mainly a lurker here, BTW.  You've probably never
seen me.)  But anyway, I definitely feel your pain ... I've been a yo-yo
dieter since I was 22 (about 13 years ago).  I lost 50 lbs. during the fall
of 2002, but gained it back plus more.  I started a low fat diet at the
first of the year and have been doing great.

Like you, I can't figure out why I let myself get into this shape.  I knew
what I was doing when I was doing it.  Why didn't I stop myself??  I've
taken off 30 lbs. since January, but jeez, I have 100 more to go.

Good luck to you.

-G.
SusanLewis - 05 Mar 2005 20:15 GMT
> Hey Susan,
>
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>
> -G.

Hi, I am not a yo-yo dieter, or at least I don't think I was, I had never
attempted any eating reform or weightloss plan before I started my WOE about
a year and a half ago. I had a good solid workable plan that DID work. I am
still about 100 lbs lighter than I was when I started. I just am struggling
to find out/remember what clicked that got me back into old habits. I hope
that this doesn't start me on a path of "yo-yo dieting". June of 2005 will
be the anniversary of my epiphany that started my changes. Again, I am
struggling to remember what exactly triggered that.

I guess if I think about it I am still very fortunate that I have 100lbs off
of me and I simply need to get back into that frame of mind.
But I can see myself in self destruct mode very easy if I let it happen, and
to be honest, it WAS/is happening now. I gotta get in control again is
all(easier said than done)

Good luck with your progress
Thanks for the well wishes

Susan
280/184/140

Ig, for some reason my outlook express took your reply to my first post off
the server, dunno.. but anyhow.. I haven't had any bloodwork done, but will
schedule something for this week, thanks for the reminder.
janice - 05 Mar 2005 20:42 GMT
>Been awhile since I've posted here, so... Hi!
>
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>Let me serve as a lesson to all of us out there that thought we had
>"mastered" the art of getting fit and healthy.

Oh Susan, I'm so sorry this has happened to you!  I have experienced
each and every one of the emotions and behaviours that you have
described here, to the extent that I found it painful to read what
you've written.

I'm not going to say you'll get back on track, and it'll all be OK
because I can feel by the way you've written this that this isn't
what's going to happen easily for you just now.  I have experience of
this sort of losing of motivation leading to putting back all the
weight.  I've been through it - all the congratulations, feeling good,
etc. and then suddenly everyone carefully not mentioning anything
about your weight or how you look, and gradually not caring about all
the good things I was doing for my body and my health.

I've also found that after I've felt better for a while I forget how
bad "the bad stuff" was and I can kid myself that it can't have been
all that bad and it's OK if I just go back to overeating a bit, and so
on....

But you know that there's a real danger of the gaining continuing and
that you have to halt it somehow.   I'm not going to say don't worry,
you won't put it all back, because I know it is all too easy to do
just that.  Have you tried just attempting to stand still, calm down,
and accept the 16 lbs just for the moment and concentrate on not
gaining any more, but not feeling panicky about the fact that you must
lose?  If you could somehow do this until your frame of mind is ready
to tackle weight loss, perhaps you could limit the damage this way.

We all know here that you're capable of great strength of purpose, and
I do believe you'll get back to where you are, but IMO putting too
much pressure on yourself if you're not ready could end up leading to
more gain.

I can only write from my own experience - just ignore everything I've
said if you can't relate to it yourself!  

I hope you'll decide to post here a bit, now you've told us what has
happened, and perhaps we can offer a bit of support.

janice
SusanLewis - 05 Mar 2005 21:22 GMT
Hi janice, it is good to see you are still as supportive as ever :)
I have missed a.s.d - for sure.

It's very hard to force yourself to read everyone's good news on here on a
daily basis if you yourself are not making good progress.
I have to stop that thinking and realize that each and every one of us here
have faced similar struggles, maybe not posted them, but we all have the
same demons. I think. Maybe everyone is perfect except me lol.

As far as where to start. I think that you are correct in starting at simply
maintaining where I am right now and re developing my WOE that works for me
again. I am going to have to do some critical thinking and disection of my
lifestyle and narrow it down to some specifics. Which is not always easy.
Being realistically critical of myself and producing workable solutions is
not my strong point, obviously. Or I wouldn't be in the shape that I am in.
I also need to calm down a bit and not be so hard on myself, I screwed up.
Big deal, fix it and move on, right? The other thing I see happening is I
let this spiral until there seems to be alot I have to fix, which in truth
is over dramatizing things, another typical thing for me to do to myself -
making mountains out of molehills. I also have to remember (sometimes on an
hour by hour basis) that only I can do this, good or bad, its ME, MY choices
that make the difference and stop blaming MY failures on outside
persons/reasons.

Some examples of those are
I've got a huge family to feed and have to cook huge meals.
There is nothing "good" or healthy near my work for lunch.
I don't "deserve" those breakfast tacos with
sausage/potato/egg/cheese/tortilla that I have for breakfast - I deserve to
be good to myself by fueling my body with nutrient dense healthy portions.
Right? Right.

And of course that list goes on and on. I need to be more assertive in
making my food/exercise decisions and quit making excuses to why I "can't"
do things.  I have to be proactive about my goals and what I want to
achieve, and I have to not allow events or opinions to sway me from that
path. Like I said, I have the tools to do this and do it the right way, I
simply have to USE them. If I were still food/exercise ignorant, I could
almost explain why this has happened to me. But I am not, I have learned SO
much in the last 2 years when I was doing so well that I do not have
ignorance as an excuse any longer.

So, for me.. it's take a deep breath. Look at what I have fallen into, pick
up the pieces and put it all back together again, then once that is done,
focus on making headway.

Thanks for your encouragement janice :)

Susan
280/184/140
Willow Darcy Shaw - 06 Mar 2005 18:10 GMT
Hi Susan,

I have faced those same demons.  A few years ago I lost nearly 40 lbs.
Then, I slowly let my bad habits and excuses creep back in and before I knew
it I had regained almost all of it.  I still don't really know why I let
myself trip up.  I have no one to blame, but myself.  I refuse to let it
keep me down though.  I kicked myself in the butt and now I'm trudging on.
This go 'round I find it much easier.  Easier in the sense that I feel I can
live with my WOE forever.  I've only been doing this for 2 months now, but I
feel confident that this WOE works for me.

You seem to have a very clear idea of what you did and what you now have to
do.  I think you are on the right road Susan, you just hit a little bump on
the way.  I see you getting up, dusting yourself off and marching on.
Congrats to you for not giving up!

Willow

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Willow Darcy Shaw from Atlantic Canada
Current Loss: -18 lbs
Mini Goal: lose 25 lbs by 1st week May
Ultimate Goal: lose 70 lbs

> Hi janice, it is good to see you are still as supportive as ever :)
> I have missed a.s.d - for sure.
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> Susan
> 280/184/140
Kasey - 06 Mar 2005 00:32 GMT
Susan, I feel your pain and understand how these things happen. I see
people scarfing down cookies or getting whipped cream on their iced
lattes and I want to be like them - able to eat without thinking
about calories.

My suggestion is try to do things one at a time. Maybe start back with
fitday no matter how ugly your intake. Or resume exercising. I find
that when I consistently exercise, I have more motivation to stick with
my eating plan.

You can get back on track.

As always, YMMV.

Kasey
365/213/190
Chris Braun - 06 Mar 2005 23:25 GMT
>Susan, I feel your pain and understand how these things happen. I see
>people scarfing down cookies or getting whipped cream on their iced
>lattes and I want to be like them - able to eat without thinking
>about calories.

Well, most people I see doing this are fat :-).  Or else they're young
and are probably going to be fat when they're older.  So I don't want
to be like them.  

It's the slim person who takes one cookie and happily enjoys it that I
want to be like.  And I expect that that person is often conscious of
-- if not calories -- at least eating moderately.

A case in point -- the audit team I was on last week.  There were 10
of us; 7 were non-trivially overweight.  The office staff brought in
doughnuts and pastries every morning.  The 3 of us who were fit didn't
eat any; the others did.  One of the other fit people is an extremely
athletic man of about 40 who ran 7 miles on his treadmill every
morning before work (in under an hour!).  He eats hearty meals, but
not junk.  The other healthy-eating man is 50ish and had a heart
attack scare a few years ago.  He walked 2 miles on the motel
treadmill every morning before work.  I ran or walked outdoors at
lunchtime when I could.  None of the other people exercised.  I
brought my lunch every day.  The others ordered out from a sandwich,
but these two men ordered salads or plain sandwiches; the others had
things like Rueben sandwiches and fries.  For afternoon snacks, I
brought apples, the 40ish guy had another sandwich, and the 50ish guy
brought nuts and carrot sticks.  The 7 other folks didn't seem to
snack in the afternoon -- just went out for large dinners or fast food
later in the evening.

I was not jealous of the 7 other folks :-).

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Nunya B. - 06 Mar 2005 02:07 GMT
> Been awhile since I've posted here, so... Hi!

> So, I am going to spend the remainder of today reviewing my old posts
> here, and catching up on yall,  revamping fitday.com so that it is current
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Let me serve as a lesson to all of us out there that thought we had
> "mastered" the art of getting fit and healthy.

Many people who turn out successful in the long run have failures along the
way (it was in the book Thin for Life).  It's good to take some time and
think about what went wrong and how you can change it but also realize what
went right - you decided to do something about it after a small % of gain
rather than seeing the gain and giving up.

You aren't alone.  I regained some of the weight I lost too, but kept off
100+ lbs from my highest weight.  I'm working on the rest but also realizing
that this is the first time I haven't regained it all and then some in 25+
years of attempts.

It's good to see you back and going back to things that worked for you in
the past.  I don't really think we ever get this "mastered" but supposedly
it will get easier in the long run.  You and I came into this group around
the same time but I'm using a different name now.  It won't take long to
figure out who I am.

BTW, Fattitudes is a good book especially for the mental stuff.  Two other
good ones are Thin for Life and Passing for Thin if you ever get in a book
reading mood.

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janice - 06 Mar 2005 07:49 GMT
>Many people who turn out successful in the long run have failures along the
>way (it was in the book Thin for Life).  It's good to take some time and
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>that this is the first time I haven't regained it all and then some in 25+
>years of attempts.

I found this bit in Thin for Life encouraging, too, Nunya.  Your
history sounds a bit like mine except that I've been at it for over 40
years:(

I never give up,  and treat each new attempt like my first, but of
course somewhere along the line the one that really succeeds for good
will be the one where you don't do exactly what you did before.  

Since my last major weight loss of around 70lbs  (the total I needed
to lose is around 100) I've spent the last 3 years at below 200 lbs
despite regaining and relosing the last 30 or so pounds several times
during that period.  I regard this as some sort of progress, and am
currently well on track again.

We'll get there in the end!

janice
Gloria - 06 Mar 2005 23:41 GMT
Janice, I've gained OVER & OVER but I'm below 190 always ,since one year
ago! I've gained recently but I'm going to win this!!!! YOU WILL WIN
ALSO:)
I always read your posts!!!!!

glo

                       
janice - 07 Mar 2005 06:49 GMT
>Janice, I've gained OVER & OVER but I'm below 190 always ,since one year
>ago! I've gained recently but I'm going to win this!!!! YOU WILL WIN
>ALSO:)
>I always read your posts!!!!!
>
>glo

I read yours too, glo.  And well done on staying below 190 all that
time.

janice>                        
Chris Braun - 06 Mar 2005 23:26 GMT
> You and I came into this group around
>the same time but I'm using a different name now.  

I do wish your new name didn't make me think of "Dubya" :-)

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Nunya B. - 07 Mar 2005 01:36 GMT
>> You and I came into this group around
>>the same time but I'm using a different name now.
>
> I do wish your new name didn't make me think of "Dubya" :-)

When you put it like that, so do I!

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Chris Braun - 06 Mar 2005 22:15 GMT
Welcome back, Susan.  I bet just writing this message will be a big
help in getting you back on track, as it so clearly articulates all
that you don't like about what's happened, and what you know you need
to do to turn things around.  You can do it!  We're here for you!

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Gloria - 06 Mar 2005 23:31 GMT
Hey Susan, I'm feeling like you are feeling but I've gained aout 5 or 6
lbs. Gosh!! I'd better get myslf in gear NOW! I'm just slippng and I was
not LOOKING at me! It's like I'm hiding from me but I'm NOT REALLY able
to hide at all! I'm reading you here and SEEING ME:( You ARE STRONG as
you face this! I'll do this too!

Thanks sooooo much for posting just when I needed your words!!

glo

                       
swimgirl - 09 Mar 2005 21:05 GMT
> Been awhile since I've posted here, so... Hi!
>
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> Susan
> 280/184/140

Boy can I relate to this email.  I've gotten thin before but never
maintained it.  I'm currently working my way down again, and doing it
very slowly.  In fact, I've taken since January of 2001 to get to where
I am now.  I've gone up 10lbs for a period of 8 or 9 months when I just
stopped exercising and gave myself fast food for breakfast.
However, with the help of a couple exercise buddies, lurking and
occasionally posting here, and lately, sessions with a nutritionist,
I've been able to start back down.  My nutritionist, like most of the
other folks on this page, emphasizes positive efforts over negative.
She recommends we take a free day each week and just eat whatever foods
we like, but keep in mind that moderation is a good concept.  In other
words, buy a slice of cake at the bakery (if you can) instead of the
whole one; or bribe 31 flavors to make you a pint-sized banana split
instead of their regular size.  It was the breakfast taco you mentioned
that got to me because that was exactly my downfall.  I love breakfast
meats and tortillas and eggs.  So now I just make it myself with turkey
bacon and corn tortillas, eggbeaters and baked potato chunks crisped in
a little evoo (mario bartoli is my favorite chef!).
Take care of yourself, you sound like a very good person!
 
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