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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2005Do I really need to eat low fat dairy?
I was wondering, is it really necessary to eat low fat/fat free dairy to lose weight? I mean you can have some fat, right? I drink 1% milk and eat 1% cottage cheese. I almost bought some fat free feta cheese yesterday but I took a look at it and it looked like some rancid congealed mess so I bought regular feta instead. IMO, most fat free dairy products are horrible. I don't know what chemicals they add to replace the fat but to me it's not even worth eating. I don't mind 2% cheese, just not fat free. And fat free sour cream has a chalky undertaste. Here is what I ate today: Breakfast: Bowl of Cheerios, !% milk, sliced banana Lunch: I slice swiss cheese, 2 slices of bread, 2 very thinly sliced pcs. of deli ham and lettuce Snack: I glass of V8 and small bowl of 1% cottage cheese Dinner: Organic Hearts of Romaine lettuce, 8 black olives, approx 1 oz. feta cheese, 1 8 oz. chicken breast (baked) and 1 tbsp of Greek Vinigrette salad dressing Now looking at this menu I don't think I am consuming that much fat. So do I really need to reduce my fat intake even more by using fat free products? Wendy > I was wondering, is it really necessary to eat low fat/fat free dairy to > lose weight? I mean you can have some fat, right? I drink 1% milk and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Wendy Looks like a day of healthy eating to me, Wendy! Are you getting, overall, the results you expect/want? Feeling good? Awhile back I lamented in an email that, down the road, I may have to give up the occasional tsp. of butter or tbls. of mayo, or ounce of good cheese, since I figured that the results I'm getting now may not last as my weight drops. Chris B responded that maybe I wouldn't have to, since the amounts are modest; indeed, why change what's working?! I don't like low fat cheese, or no fat milk or cottage cheese, and so now I don't plan to remove modest amounts of the regular or low-fat versions of the foods I love. And that works for me because it beats a Quarter Pounder w/ cheese and a large fry any day! Heidi 262/223/222 Losing 100lbs. 1 lb. at a time. Start 10/24/04 You do not need to give up fat to lose weight. All you need is to eat less in some sensible fashion. And fat free sour cream is not really sour _cream_. Sour cream is made by fermenting milk cream, fat free "sour cream" could not be made of "cream". You definitely "can have some fat", as you put it. Just not as much as to make you eat more calories than you spend.  Signature223/173.2/180 >So do I really need to reduce my fat intake even more by using fat free >products? I for one don't think so. I lost 50lbs over 5 months but still ate 1oz of almonds every day, plus regular cheddar cheese with apples and 1% milk on my morning cheerios. I'm no diet expert but I think fat is very good to eat in combination with a varied diet. It's very satiating and I think helps tell your body that things aren't that bad so there's no need to go into famine mode. Plus I believe fat is necessary to carry fat-soluble vitamins in the body like the A,C,E group. The best way to monitor your diet is by the scale. One simple thing you can do is just weigh yourself first thing every morning and average that weight into the previous 4 days, to get a running average estimate of your weight. If you're not eating too much you should see your weight fall by 1 or 2lbs/week, depending on how much you're "dieting". As long as the trend is good and you're satisfied with the rate of progress, continue to eat a varied diet. This builds eating habits that you will need when you hit your goal weight. Heywood 232/182 > I was wondering, is it really necessary to eat low fat/fat free dairy to > lose weight? I mean you can have some fat, right? I drink 1% milk and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Wendy Milk is no longer considered the ideal source of calcium. Low fat is n longer considered the best diet option as some healthy dietary fats are required by the body. personallyy i always include some amount of dry curd cotage cheese in my diet as it is a low calorie source of protein. SignatureDiva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman > Milk is no longer considered the ideal source of calcium. Vegans have been saying that for ages now. I personally have known that for some time; just now they come out with a 'study'? Low fat is n > longer considered the best diet option as some healthy dietary fats are > required by the body. True, but you only get a limited amount if your diet is balanced, and there are much better sources to get those beneficial fats than dairy (i.e. fish, nuts and good oils, like olive oil). Full-fat dairy products should still be moderated rather strictly, I think, to leave room for those other, 'better' sources. Sara > True, but you only get a limited amount if your diet is balanced, and > there are much better sources to get those beneficial fats than dairy > (i.e. fish, nuts and good oils, like olive oil). Full-fat dairy > products should still be moderated rather strictly, I think, to leave > room for those other, 'better' sources. I agree with you, if you want to lose weight & need to restrict calories this is a good place to cut them. I've seen plain yogurt with over 100 cals/100g whilst fat-free stuff can be as low as 36 cal/100g, a third of the calories & the difference in taste is not that noticeable if you mix it with fruit or make salad dressing with it. Having said that, the OP was on about 1% dairy products, not full fat products. > I was wondering, is it really necessary to eat low fat/fat free dairy to > lose weight? No. Your caloric defecit is what matters. If you can get that defecit by cutting something else, then that will be fine. > I mean you can have some fat, right? I drink 1% milk and > eat 1% cottage cheese. I almost bought some fat free feta cheese [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cheese, just not fat free. And fat free sour cream has a chalky > undertaste. Some people can't tolerate the taste of fat free dairy products. I have been drinking skim milk almost all my life, so I'm used to it. Fat-free cottage cheese is a good source of protein without piling on fat calories. But yes, some fat is OK. > Here is what I ate today: > Breakfast: Bowl of Cheerios, !% milk, sliced banana [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > feta cheese, 1 8 oz. chicken breast (baked) and 1 tbsp of Greek > Vinigrette salad dressing > Now looking at this menu I don't think I am consuming that much fat. So > do I really need to reduce my fat intake even more by using fat free > products? Looks good to me. Assuming your bowl is a 4 oz serving, 1% cottage cheese is 84 calories, 1 gram fat, 14 grams protein. Fat free has 70 calories, 0 fat, 14 grams protein. So not a huge difference unless you eat a lot of cottage cheese (I do). Phil M. > I was wondering, is it really necessary to eat low fat/fat free dairy to > lose weight? I mean you can have some fat, right? I drink 1% milk and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Wendy No, it's not necessary, as long as your portions are modest enough. I usually buy Cabot 50% light cheddar cheese slices for sandwiches, and part-skim mozzarella, but I also buy plenty of full-fat cheeses when the mood arises, like fresh parmesan, smoked provolone slices, jalapeno jack, regular cheddar, etc. And I ALWAYS buy full-fat feta. I usually only use a 1/2 oz. in salads and whatnot so it's not necessary to sacrifice taste to save the tiny bit of satured fat (trust me, I've tried fat-free feta; it's disgusting). My milk is either skim or 1% but that's because I kind of like it that way, and I use it a lot, like for dry cereal or fruit smoothies. I could never give up full fat cheese, like smoked provolone; it just doesn't taste (or melt) the same. If you want a light cheese, though, the Cabot 50% light is good. All in all, just be careful with it, as you would any food-- don't go overboard and there shouldn't be any problem. Sara >I was wondering, is it really necessary to eat low fat/fat free dairy to >lose weight? I mean you can have some fat, right? I drink 1% milk and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >cheese, just not fat free. And fat free sour cream has a chalky >undertaste. Good question. I don't know. I don't think that anyone really does. The first criticism of the fat in milk was, well, that it's fat (and fat is of course evil!). Times have since changed and we now know that 'eating fat does not make you fat'. The 'low fat' diets have mostly gone the way of the Dodo, and many fats are now the 'darling' of the nutrition world (EFA's). The next criticism leveled against milk fat (by the anti-milk group?) is the type of fat that's in milk - mostly saturated. While it's generally considered that mono and poly fats are a better choice than sat fat for the type of fat to include in your diet, the question of whether 'sat' fat is harmful is being challenged, and I don't think there's really any good evidence one way or the other. 1% is generally considered 'low fat' milk. IMHO, if you're eating higher fat dairy, it's better to eat organic if possible... and many version of 'low fat' products are worse for you than the full fat version (TFA's, added sugar, chemicals) |
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