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avid - 12 Mar 2005 23:37 GMT What a great group!! So much dedication, intelligence, humor, and humaneness all in one place!
I need to lose at least 40 pounds for my brother's wedding in July. I'd like to lose 60 but I'm not sure that's possible. I'm female, 5'4" and currently weigh 220. The docs have been after me for a year now to lose weight. Funny that the wedding is a motivator. I realize I need to practice healthy eating habits. I know what to do, I just haven't been motivated. When I was active and healthier, I had no problem eating the right portions and healthy foods. So I think I need a SIMPLE plan to jumpstart the weight loss. KISS for me. I've purchased FitDay and have an elliptical downstairs to use. I'm a caretaker for an elderly parent (which causes a great deal of stress), so time really isn't an issue. Funds are limited so I can't go join Weight Watchers or join a gym. I know I can do this, I just need to start somewhere. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks!
By the way, what are the abbreviations I see in posts ... WOE, WOL etc?? Thanks again.
Mel
Chris Braun - 13 Mar 2005 00:05 GMT >What a great group!! So much dedication, intelligence, humor, and >humaneness all in one place! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Mel Hi Mel, welcome to the group!
First, the easy question: WOE = Way of Eating, and WOL = Way of Life. People use these to acknowledge that the changes we make must be permanent, not just a temporary diet to lose weight and then return to our old habits.
It's great that you want to make this change, and that you have an upcoming event to help you get started. I think you need to not make the wedding your sole focus, though, or the temptation will be to revert back to your current lifestyle once it's over.
I also think your objective of losing 40 pounds between now and then may perhaps be a bit ambitious. It may happen, but it may not. But remember that any loss will be a start on the road to a healthier and prettier you :-). Don't set yourself up to be disappointed if you don't achieve that rate of loss. Instead, start eating the right way and exercising, and celebrate what you do accomplish.
The reason I'm saying this may be ambitious, by the way, is that the recommended rate of loss to remain healthy is 1-2 pounds per week, and it looks like you're aiming for a bit more. And a rate of 2 pounds/week can be a lot for a woman, depending on what you're eating now to maintain at 220. Your age -- and I don't have any idea how old you are -- can be a factor here; one's metabolism slows as one gets older. (I know about this; I'll be 57 next month :-) .)
For the record, I never lost as much as 10 pounds in a month after my first month of dieting, but in 23 months I lost over 120 pounds :-). Slow and steady will get you there.
Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Ruzinthra the Ruki - 13 Mar 2005 02:06 GMT <snip excellent post>
>For the record, I never lost as much as 10 pounds in a month after my >first month of dieting, but in 23 months I lost over 120 pounds :-). >Slow and steady will get you there. great post, Chris! thanks for sharing. :)
david
Ignoramus14003 - 13 Mar 2005 02:43 GMT > I also think your objective of losing 40 pounds between now and then > may perhaps be a bit ambitious. It may happen, but it may not. But I find it amusing that I said the same thing, almost in the same words (after your post, but before seeing it). ``40 lbs by july means losing about 12 lbs per month, which is a little ambitious. You may be able to accomplish that, or you might not.''
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avid - 15 Mar 2005 18:20 GMT Thank you!! "start eating the right way and exercising, and celebrate what you do accomplish" is great advice.
Delenn - 13 Mar 2005 02:18 GMT > What a great group!! So much dedication, intelligence, humor, and > humaneness all in one place! > > I need to lose at least 40 pounds for my brother's wedding in July. I'd like > to lose 60 but I'm not sure that's possible. Why wouldn't it be possible? It's definitely possible. All you have to do is eat less, exercise more and keep repeating that. I lost 80 pounds over the past three years and I can tell you that change is absolutely possible. The catch is that you've got to change if you want to change.
> I'm female, 5'4" and currently > weigh 220. The docs have been after me for a year now to lose weight. > Funny that the wedding is a motivator. I realize I need to practice healthy > eating habits. I know what to do, I just haven't been motivated. What you're saying is that you haven't decided to do it. Until you decide to do it this will remain an impossible goal. You'll find excuse after excuse why you can't do it.
After you decide to do it then you'll find challenge after challenge you'll have to overcome, but each one can be overcome with some problem solving and attention and energy.
> When I > was active and healthier, I had no problem eating the right portions and > healthy foods. So I think I need a SIMPLE plan to jumpstart the weight > loss. KISS for me. I've purchased FitDay and have an elliptical downstairs > to use. You want simple? Use your hand. Eat portions no bigger than two fistfuls each meal. Eat frequently, and plan to get some lean protein in every meal.
Drink water... lots of it.
And move your body for half an hour every day (to start with.) Go for a brisk walk, or use the elliptical trainer for two fifteen minute sessions or three ten minute sessions or whatever it takes. Sweat every day.
> I'm a caretaker for an elderly parent (which causes a great deal of > stress), so time really isn't an issue. Funds are limited so I can't go > join Weight Watchers or join a gym. I know I can do this, I just need to > start somewhere. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks! Start with Mistress Krista:
http://www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
> By the way, what are the abbreviations I see in posts ... WOE, WOL etc?? > Thanks again. > > Mel Mel, how old are you? How long have you been overweight? What's your family situation?
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Chris Braun - 13 Mar 2005 14:07 GMT >> I need to lose at least 40 pounds for my brother's wedding in July. I'd like >> to lose 60 but I'm not sure that's possible. > >Why wouldn't it be possible? It's definitely possible. All you have to >do is eat less, exercise more and keep repeating that. Well, I think the OP's point was that it might not be possible to lose 60 pounds by July -- not 60 pounds in her lifetime :-). I would agree with her that 60 pounds by July is probably unrealistic.
>I lost 80 pounds >over the past three years and I can tell you that change is absolutely >possible. Well yes, three years; she has 4 months. As I said to her, she should set her goal for the long haul, not just for the July wedding.
Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
avid - 15 Mar 2005 18:24 GMT Thanks for the feedback! I am doing it, and have already started. Portion control is definitely part of the plan, thanks for the reinforcement. I like the way you phrased it, "move your body"!
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Ignoramus14003 - 13 Mar 2005 02:41 GMT Mel, you do not need to wait for some special mindset, motivation etc to lose weight. All you need to do is eat less and exercise, even if you do not feel like doing it. That's a part of being a responsible adult, doing things that you know are right, even if you do not feel like doing them. Do not wait until you get a holy revelation, start now and then as you go, you just might get that revelation. And even if you do not get that revelation but do the right things (eat less and exercise) you will end up thin.
At 5'4" and 220 lbs, your fat is a hazard to yourself.
You do not need any money at all to lose weight, in fact, you can save money by giving up expensive junk food and eating less overall. Part of the savings may be needed to buy more shoes. Gyms and exercise equipment are optional.
40 lbs by july means losing about 12 lbs per month, which is a little ambitious. You may be able to accomplish that, or you might not. Anyway, it is better to accomplish this partially and be 190, rather than to be 220.
As for a simple plan, all you need is to know two words, "eat less". Could not be simplier than that, really. You decide what you will eat less of, whatever makes your life easiest to do without.
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> What a great group!! So much dedication, intelligence, humor, and > humaneness all in one place! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Mel
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avid - 15 Mar 2005 18:26 GMT Great! Thank you! The basic premise of eat less, and move more. Repeat often - lol.
Mel eat less, move more 225/223/160
rosie read n' post - 13 Mar 2005 15:45 GMT dear mel, besides learning to stop dieting, and just change my WOE (way of eating, for life) i found out that my body was being effected in many ways, due to my carb consumption. take this test: http://www.carbohydrateaddicts.com/caquiz.html
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: What a great group!! So much dedication, intelligence, humor, and : humaneness all in one place! [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : : Mel Chris Braun - 13 Mar 2005 16:28 GMT >dear mel, >besides learning to stop dieting, and just change my WOE (way of >eating, for life) i found out that my body was being effected in >many ways, due to my carb consumption. >take this test: >http://www.carbohydrateaddicts.com/caquiz.html It seems to me that most or all of these questions would apply equally to someone who is just addicted to eating in general. At one time in my life I would have answered "yes" to most of them, and I am confident I have never been a carbohydrate addict. I have seen this quiz before, and assumed then -- as now -- that it is designed to sell low-carb diet products.
Chris 262/130s/130s started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
rosie read n' post - 13 Mar 2005 16:35 GMT dear chris, every once in awhile, after i post this quiz, there are folks like you, posting your very same reactions to it.
if you have found what works for you and are successful (which it seems you are) TERRIFIC!
HOWEVER, there are those out there, like me, who were/are groping for an answer, until the drs. heller came along and spelled it out for us!
(when i start with the CAD WOE years ago, the drs. heller were not selling a thing, except educating us about the effect that sugars have on some of our systems and what we could do about it.
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: >dear mel, : >besides learning to stop dieting, and just change my WOE (way of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] : 262/130s/130s : started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004 Ignoramus3883 - 13 Mar 2005 16:39 GMT > dear chris, > every once in awhile, after i post this quiz, there are folks like [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > selling a thing, except educating us about the effect that sugars > have on some of our systems and what we could do about it. Rosie, how much weight you lost since you started your WOE?
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rosie read n' post - 13 Mar 2005 16:43 GMT i went from what i now know and have acknowledged was a size 18 jean, (7yrs ago) to today's size 14. i would like to be a size 12, but am satisfied with 14's. i am 56yrs old and 5'10". rosie http://img28.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img28&image=rosie8hm.jpg
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: Rosie, how much weight you lost since you started your WOE? Ignoramus3883 - 13 Mar 2005 16:50 GMT > i went from what i now know and have acknowledged was a size 18 > jean, (7yrs ago) to today's size 14. > i would like to be a size 12, but am satisfied with 14's. > i am 56yrs old and 5'10". > rosie > http://img28.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img28&image=rosie8hm.jpg That's a good change.
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> "Ignoramus3883" <ignoramus3883@NOSPAM.3883.invalid> wrote in message >: >: Rosie, how much weight you lost since you started your WOE?
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avid - 15 Mar 2005 18:30 GMT Thanks! 5 - 7 Your score indicates that you are moderately addicted to carbohydrates. At times you may be able to control your eating but you may find that stress, premenstrual changes, tiredness, boredom, unexpressed anger or pressure may increase your carbohydrate cravings.
I knew this but still found the survey interesting. Food, any kind of food, is an issue for me whether it's carbs or fat!
Mel eat less, move more 225/223/160
reenum - 13 Mar 2005 15:57 GMT Really, there is no way you can lose 40 lbs by July in a safe manner. In my opinion, 15-20 lbs. is a more realistic goal.
Really, a large part of getting on a diet is the mental aspect. There really is no easy way to do this. Sure, you could starve yourself, go on a crash diet, or do something like that. But, all that'll do is land you in the hospital.
But you need a plan so here it is:
1. Exercise at least 30 mins a day for 6 days a week. You can walk or jog, which costs no money. 2. Cut your calorie intake down to 1200-1400 cals. This will also save you money on food. 3. Try to make your lifestyle more active. Take the stairs instead of the elevator. Park in the back of the lot when you go shippoing, etc.
It's a simple plan, but not easy to do by any means.
Ignoramus3883 - 13 Mar 2005 16:04 GMT > Really, there is no way you can lose 40 lbs by July in a safe manner. > In my opinion, 15-20 lbs. is a more realistic goal. Um, I do not think that an absolute statement like this is warranted. I lost 45 lbs in the same timeframe, starting at almost exactly the weight that the OP is.
> Really, a large part of getting on a diet is the mental aspect. There > really is no easy way to do this. Sure, you could starve yourself, go [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > It's a simple plan, but not easy to do by any means. Very succinctly said.
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avid - 15 Mar 2005 18:32 GMT Excellent advice - simple, do-able, maintainable!
Mel eat less, move more 225/223/160
Patricia Heil - 13 Mar 2005 16:29 GMT Your goal is unrealistic. To reach it, you would have to do things you could not keep on with and the weight would come back. Don't expect to lose more than 2 pounds a week, so at this point you will probably lose a maximum of 30 pounds safely. The important thing is start a new WOL so the pounds don't come back later in the first place, and so that you can continue to lose safely to your goal of 40 in the second place.
> What a great group!! So much dedication, intelligence, humor, and > humaneness all in one place! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Mel
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