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Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / March 2005Here are my photos
... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full story is a few posts up) http://bjoh.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm My stats: 5'5", 38 131/118/113 These photos were taken yesterday. > My stats: > > 5'5", 38 > 131/118/113 > > These photos were taken yesterday. You need to do a routine weight lifting schedule. You look to me puny. Get some muscle. >38 wow! you have the body of a 20 year old! but your face looks much older than 38. :( david >>38 > > wow! you have the body of a 20 year old! but your face looks > much older than 38. :( > > david Isn't this the sort of comment you could keep to yourself? He is what he is. And what he is is low fat. To you that means "20" (because 20 year olds typically have low fat) and the face is low on fat which also is common in older people. That's what it looks like. He is human and unique and that's what a human body looks like when it happens to be configured like his. Delenn >Isn't this the sort of comment you could keep to yourself? i'm not responding to you with what i'd planned to say - it's probably the sort of comment i should keep to myself. david >but your face looks much older than 38 lol well they're body shots rather than head shots. It was a very hot, sunny day so my face is a bit screwed up from squinting. OK i just added a head shot for ya http://bjoh.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm btw I'm not available LOL! Alright I've taken that headshot down now :p > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full story > is a few posts up) > > http://bjoh.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm What I see is someone who is too thin. You've got the bobblehead look - where your head almost looks superimposed on your body, because your body is so thin. Anorexic people commonly have this look seek help >You've got the bobblehead look - where your head almost looks superimposed >on your body, because your body is so thin. You might be right. My head is large anyway, I always need the largest size helmets for stuff. Thanks for the observation. >>You've got the bobblehead look - where your head almost looks superimposed >>on your body, because your body is so thin. > > You might be right. My head is large anyway, I always need the largest size > helmets for stuff. Thanks for the observation. I went back to your original post and picked it apart and have a couple of huge questions not regarding criticism of your looks. First of all, what motivated you originally to desire to go from slender to very low fat? What is your family situation currently? You said you're "taken" but what does that mean in a day to day sort of way? What things do you aspire to do with your body: do you train with an ultra-marathon club, do you play a sport, do you run in 5K or 10K or marathon races? What do you need your body to be able to do for you? Delenn >First of all, what motivated you originally to desire to go from slender to very low fat? I admire the athletic-type body. Those people look good because they really are strong and healthy. With a few exceptions (eg. golf), most athletes have body fat well below the average population. If you pinch their stomachs it's gonna feel more like skin than flab. Of course athlete's bodies vary a lot. I like the body of a boxer, though I wouldn't want big pecs like them. Swimmers have good bodies. Sprinters also - muscular but at the same time they need to be flexible for swiftness. I don't like marathon runner's bodies which is probably what I'm close to now, but hey, it's a starting point. If I can start building up muscle I'll probably put on fat too but I'm ok with that. >What is your family situation currently? You said you're "taken" but what does that mean in a day to day sort of way? Well I made it a point to say I wasn't available (tongue in cheek) because my GF is nervous enough me posting pics like this of myself on the web. Let's keep it on subject, huh! >What things do you aspire to do with your body: do you train with an ultra-marathon club, do you play a sport, do you run in 5K or 10K or marathon races? What do you need your body to be able to do for you? I run for pleasure, about 4K daily. I would never go in a race. I don't play any other sport. I want to keep my body active and healthy for as long as possible and not let it fall into disuse as I get older. I want to be one of those guys you see jogging when they're 80! >>First of all, what motivated you originally to desire to go from slender > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > point. If I can start building up muscle I'll probably put on fat too but > I'm ok with that. Thanks. So it's not a matter of fine-tuning for your sport, it's more a matter of asthetics. I was sort of getting that feeling from your whole starvation/control thing. You're into looking a specific way that is really obvious as a goal to you but not evident to others. I know that scenario. I recall watching a friend obsessively curl her hair "just so" for half an hour when absolutely no one else could tell what was wrong with her hair the way it was and we all wanted to just get going but she had to stay and get the hair to flip in a certain elusive way. The problem with this sort of obsessive/control thing is that it prevents you from enjoying life. >>What is your family situation currently? You said you're "taken" but >> what does that mean in a day to day sort of way? > > Well I made it a point to say I wasn't available (tongue in cheek) because > my GF is nervous enough me posting pics like this of myself on the web. > Let's keep it on subject, huh! I'm wondering if you share grocery shopping, family meals, active pursuits with someone. Do you run alone? Sleep alone? Control your menu alone? >>What things do you aspire to do with your body: do you train with an > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > possible and not let it fall into disuse as I get older. I want to be one of > those guys you see jogging when they're 80! You see a lot of 80 year olds jogging? Jogging is a bad sport to carry you into old age. You should consider cross-training for health and well-being. I took up swimming after my last ankle injury and I'm delighted with it. I call it a stealthy ass-whooping. I also run about 4K a couple of times a week, but I also swim twice a week and cycle twice a week and weightlift twice a week. Your questions are good ones: how to build muscle and how to maintain fat loss. They just don't go together. I can answer them both, though. I already said in another post how to gain muscle: lay off running, reduce weightlifting sessions (but lift heavier) and eat eat eat. The question of how to maintain a crash-diet weight is harder. The answer is that you've got to learn to eat again and repair your metabolism and that means you eat at your projected maintenance level. Try 14x your weight in calories. Practice staying at that level. You wont' blow up into a giant at 14x your weight in calories with your activity level. Choose healthy foods designed to fuel your body. Do healthy activities designed to maintain your body. Practice this over and over again until the day you die. Some days you'll feast, but that's okay to do on Feast Days. Just practice going back to maintenance as soon as you can. People who lose weight by practicing maintenance take a long time to lose the pounds, but then when they do it they already know how to be slender. People who crash diet have to do all the same work as the slow-loss people do, but this time they gain weight when they slip up rather than just not losing that week. Think about it: if you eat like you're a 200 pound person and you weigh 200 pounds then you won't lose weight that week. But if you already crash-dieted down to 100 and eat like a 200 pound person you'll gain weight that week. I suspect that weight loss might take about the same for slow-loss versus crash diet, it's just that crash diet takes the form of yo-yoing whereas slow-loss takes the form of lose-plateau. Anyway, that's what it takes to maintain: you've got to make healthy habits permanent. My weight loss plan is 5 steps. 0. Fix your head 1. Eat less 2. Exercise more 3. Repeat 4. Forever. The step you're on is #0. You've got to examine your relationshp with food and control and punishment. You're not looking at food as neutral energy for your body, you've got it wrapped up in some anorexia crap. Get the crap out of your head. Seriously. Delenn I don't disagree with anything you say. I have a lot to learn. Thx for the long post. There is a lot of food for thought there. I'm collecting up a series of questions I have about maintenance and WOL stuff that I'll post a bit later. I hope you will help me with them. I value your input. btw I saw on tv recently a 100 meter race for 100 year olds! The winner took something like 8 seconds off the world record. He had a really good arm swing going. > > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full > story [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > seek help I am sorry, but you have a very confused body image. He looks normal to me. He looks fit, healthy (a bit pale but that is not too uncommon this time of year). Yes, he could use more muscle, or not. He has more muscle that some marathoners I have seen. I suggest that YOU seek help (I believe you have bought into the claim made by too many overweight people that being overweight is normal and all the models and appropriate weight people are anorexic. It helps them feel better about their weight). You look fine John. You are slight of frame, but the world of bodies are varied and many. Enjoy life and do not worry about your size.  SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov > > > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full > > story [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > models and appropriate weight people are anorexic. It helps them feel better > about their weight). kiss my a.s... you know nothing about me, and for the record - I am not overweight, but yes, most models and actresses are underweight. Maybe not anorexic, but underweight. > > > > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full > > > story [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > overweight, but yes, most models and actresses are underweight. Maybe not > anorexic, but underweight. Didn't say you were overweight, just that telling him he should seek help was a result of your confused body image, not his. As for most actresses and models underweight, according to whom? You, and you have medical evidence to back that up, or just your opinion. Some models tend to be thin (the heroin look craze I agree was too thin IMO), but most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. Most models I see (not that many I do confess, I don't read teen magazines) look normal to thin, but not unhealthy thin. I would only suggest that before you dispense medical advice, you check your bias at the door. As for kissing you a.s, I'll pass. SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov >but >most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. you scare me. > >but > >most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. > > you scare me. I do confess that I do not watch most of the dreck presented on the tube; however, I watch CBS Monday night line up. Still Standing, Everybody Loves Raymond, 2 1/2 men. Also, Yes Dear, and King of Queens. You see anorexic people, I see normal. I remember when PBS did a reality show about life out west in the 1800's or so. The one couple justified buying food (against the rules) because he thought his children were starving to death (they looked like every kid looked when I was their age). The show brought in a medical doctor, he examined the kids and said there were perfectly normal, nor even the low end of weight! It was a real eye opener for the husband, and one of lessons he took from the show was what "normal" weight looked like IIRC. We all have are biases, that is part of being human. Projecting them on to others, is something worth fighting against (although we are not likely to win, we can try.) SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov >>>but >>>most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Raymond, 2 1/2 men. Also, Yes Dear, and King of Queens. > You see anorexic people, I see normal. Your view of normal is skewed. Patricia Heaton, the "mom" on "Everybody loves Raymond" is famous for having lost a drastic amount of weight and undergoing extensive plastic surgery so she could keep the job of middle-aged housewife on a TV show. My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It was considered generous for making the (size 4?) woman not have to be anorexic looking... but she's still smaller than 90% of women in America if I had to guess. The fact that you see women on TV as "normal" is a reasonable mistake to make. You're fed that notion. It's wrong, but I see why you believe it. Delenn > >>>but > >>>most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Delenn You misunderstand what I mean by normal. The norm for America is overweight! Just because someone is a bit below the norm of a good healthy weight, does not make them anorexic. I do not think that Patricia Heaton looks anorexic, she looks thin, a healthy thin. There is likely a fairly wide range of what a healthy weight can be, just because someone has lower body fat than you, does not make them anorexic! I am a bit heavy (about 16-17% body fat). Could I lose some more body fat? Hell yes. Would it be healthier for me? Probably. Am I going to worry about it? Nope, I got enough challenge staying where I am. Just because I am a bit pudgy (6' 2", 190), does that mean that I am going see everyone thinner than me as anorexic? Nope, they are thinner than me, not psychologically screwed up. Oh yeah, using dress size as a measure is bad. The size 4 today was likely a size 2 a few years ago (the dress manufactures want you to feel good about your self too--if it means you buy their product). SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov > I do not think that Patricia Heaton >looks anorexic, she looks thin, a healthy thin. remember that the camera adds 10 lbs. david >>>>but >>>>most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. >>> >>>you scare me. [snip] > My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a > woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It was > considered generous for making the (size 4?) woman not have to be anorexic > looking... but she's still smaller than 90% of women in America if I had > to guess. This is a very important point: in America everything is big, including people & clothes sizes. A US size 10 is considerably bigger than a UK size 10. > The fact that you see women on TV as "normal" is a reasonable mistake to > make. You're fed that notion. It's wrong, but I see why you believe it. If you look at what's supposed to be a 'normal' weight range you'll find the lower limits (underweight threshold) are rather low. For my modest height (5'2") the lowest 'healthy' weight is just 101lbs. I'm sure if I was @ that weight I'd look quite skinny but being skinny is not unhealthy in itself, it's the crazy diets followed by some people wanting to be skinny that can make them unhealthy. >>>>>but >>>>>most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > in itself, it's the crazy diets followed by some people wanting to be > skinny that can make them unhealthy. Yes, you almost never see even a size 6 in a regular UK store - an 8 is the normal smallest but that's just because the sizings are different. My work suits are all marked with 3 sizes - UK 10 Euro 38 US 6. Incidentally, at 5"2' as I also am, a weight of 101 lb gives you a bmi of 18.5 which is actually rather underweight. Rachael 176/121/119-124 >My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a >woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It >was considered generous for making the (size 4?) woman not have to be >anorexic looking... but she's still smaller than 90% of women in America >if I had to guess. have you seen the show lately? last i saw (a few weeks ago), she looked like she was packin' on the pounds. not that i have anything against that. david Signature"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking his advice is akin to saying "lie to me". -Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005 > >My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a > >woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > david I watched it recently and noticed the same thing. One episode I caught dealt with them taking up exercise to lose weight. >>My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a >>woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > looked like she was packin' on the pounds. not that i have > anything against that. The actress is pregnant. Signaturethe volleyballchick > >>My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a > >>woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > The actress is pregnant. Well that explains the sudden weight gain<g> >>>My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a >>>woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >The actress is pregnant. good to know. however - just because one is pregnant, doesn't mean they're free to pack on the pounds. if they want to, hey, that's their business. remember, this is just my two cents. my sister is in the middle of her third pregnancy, and has gained hardly any weight at all - except for the baby, the placenta, and whatever minimal amount of weight is required. after delivery, she loses whatever minimal amount of weight she gained. i've seen other women balloon up twice their size and then try to use the excuse "i'm pregnant." a woman who's pregnant can still eat healthily, that's all i'm sayin'. david Signature"Mr. Lancaster" as you call him is soooo full of donkey doo that it isn't funny. Seeking his advice is akin to saying "lie to me". -Walter, AMOE, 01/26/2005 > have you seen the show lately? last i saw (a few weeks ago), she > looked like she was packin' on the pounds. not that i have > anything against that. That is because she was pregnant and had a baby, I believe last fall or something. It was last year's season that she started adding the weight during a pregnancy that they never worked into the character on the show. > >My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a > >woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > david She just had a baby. SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov >> >My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a >> >woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> looked like she was packin' on the pounds. not that i have >> anything against that. <Snip> >She just had a baby. and? > >> >My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a > >> >woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > and? And it takes a little time to lose the weight. SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov >> >> >My memory is that the King of Queens pairs a grossly obese man with a >> >> >woman who is merely at ideal weight rather than excessively thin. It [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >And it takes a little time to lose the weight. how much time? > >> <Snip> > >> >She just had a baby. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > how much time? Only here personal trainer knows for sure! SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov > >but > >most actresses I see on the tube look normal to me. > > you scare me. Well I'm just a sicko, I guess. I watched a special on the Hilton Sisters and Paris looks darn good to me. SignatureDiva ***** The Best Man For The Job Is A Woman > Didn't say you were overweight, just that telling him he should seek help > was a result of your confused body image, not his. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I would only suggest that before you dispense medical advice, you check your > bias at the door. Olsen twins Calista Flockhart (aka Ally McBeal) Paris Hilton Most of the "Friends" female stars, especially the last few seasons and Courtney Cox Even women like Courtney Thorne Smith (from Melrose Place, later on Ally McBeal and currently on according to Jim, left Ally McBeal because they put so much pressure on her to lose weight). Nicole Kidman Hillary Swank Brittany Murphy http://entertainment.msn.com/celebs/gallery.aspx?gallery=5228 >a bit pale but that is not too uncommon this time of year My time of year may be different to yours. I live in Australia. It's damn hot here now! I'm pale because I deliberately avoid getting much sun. My skin is a bit moley and I don't want to get skin cancer, a common disease here. >>a bit pale but that is not too uncommon this time of year > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm pale because I deliberately avoid getting much sun. My skin is a bit > moley and I don't want to get skin cancer, a common disease here. Not to mention that Australia and NZ are more sensitive to UV rays as their Ozone layer is nonexistent. The positive side of that is that you guys have better sunscreens over there than we do here in the states. Quoting "Dr_Dickie" <Dr_Dicke@chembench.com>: >> > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full >> > story is a few posts up) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >I am sorry, but you have a very confused body image. He looks normal to me. I wasn't particularly shocked by the pics either. Sure, BCJ is a bit thin. Alert the media. >He looks fit, healthy (a bit pale but that is not too uncommon this time of >year). Yes, he could use more muscle, or not. He has more muscle that some >marathoners I have seen. Yup. BCJ wants to add some muscle mass, which I personally think is an excellent idea. Based on what I understand to be his goals, I do think that BCJ may have been ill-advised to have lost weight in the fashion that he did (and I think he already knows that ;)). But that does not automatically qualify him for diagnosis as an anorexic. >I suggest that YOU seek help (I believe you have bought into the claim made >by too many overweight people that being overweight is normal and all the >models and appropriate weight people are anorexic. It helps them feel better >about their weight). If I recall correctly, this is the same poster that recently suggested to another poster (a young woman) that she was anorexic and needed to "seek help" just because she was a tad slender for her height. And that, after the poster had already said that she wanted to eat healthier and put on some lean mass. Pffffft. >You look fine John. You are slight of frame, but the world of bodies are >varied and many. Enjoy life and do not worry about your size. > Based on what I understand to be his goals, I do think that BCJ may > have been ill-advised to have lost weight in the fashion that he did > (and I think he already knows that ;)). But that does not > automatically qualify him for diagnosis as an anorexic. What concerned me about his eating behavior was the control issues. He was slender and decided for arbitrary reasons to be extremely slender by strictly limiting food in unrealistic ways and overexercising in unrealistic ways. (I came up with him doing about 15 workouts a week when I add them all up.) This is not about losing weight, this is about what's going on in his head. I say that without any particular judgment. I think the first step to doing a sustainable transformation is to fix your head. Something made you get the way you are. In my case it was obese, in his case it's underweight. Before you can change you've got to get a handle on what made you be that way to begin with. Delenn > Based on what I understand to be his goals, I do think that BCJ may > have been ill-advised to have lost weight in the fashion that he did > (and I think he already knows that ;)). But that does not > automatically qualify him for diagnosis as an anorexic. I did not say I thought he was anorexic, although I did say that his head appears larger in proportion to the rest of his body - much like some of the anorexic people out there. I also suggested him to seek help based on his previous post discussing his eating habits - but that was also before his posts regarding wanting to put on muscle mass and to gain weight. In the posts since then, he has admitted that what he did was not the smartest thing to do and he does want to make things right. > >I suggest that YOU seek help (I believe you have bought into the claim made > >by too many overweight people that being overweight is normal and all the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > that, after the poster had already said that she wanted to eat > healthier and put on some lean mass. That wasn't me, at least I don't recall saying that, but I've been known to be wrong - although it may have been this Dr. Dickie guy - I don't know. I'm not sure who you are responding to. Quoting "JayJay" <1day@atime.com>: >> Based on what I understand to be his goals, I do think that BCJ may >> have been ill-advised to have lost weight in the fashion that he did [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >appears larger in proportion to the rest of his body - much like some of the >anorexic people out there. Seriously, how could you expect your comments to be taken any other way? Bobblehead?? >I also suggested him to seek help based on his previous post discussing his >eating habits - but that was also before his posts regarding wanting to put >on muscle mass and to gain weight. In the posts since then, he has >admitted that what he did was not the smartest thing to do and he does want >to make things right. [...] >> If I recall correctly, this is the same poster that recently suggested >> to another poster (a young woman) that she was anorexic and needed to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >be wrong - although it may have been this Dr. Dickie guy - I don't know. >I'm not sure who you are responding to. You didn't use the words "seek help" (apparently I *didn't* recall exactly correctly), but you might want to google for the thread "how to fend off cravings". Upon the reread, I still think your comments to that poster were more than a bit overblown, considering. (i.e., the implication that the poster should worry about becoming "borderline anorexic") That is, assuming you are the same JayJay. > Quoting "JayJay" <1day@atime.com>: > > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > That is, assuming you are the same JayJay. Ahhh, usenet. If were all as clear as we think we are, there would be almost no traffic ;-). Discourse leads to understanding, so in the end, it is all good (except for trolls, they are just lame IMHO). SignatureDr. Dickie Skepticult member in good standing #394-00596-438 Poking kooks with a pointy stick. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' ('I found it!'), but rather 'hmm....that's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov Quoting "Dr_Dickie" <Dr_Dicke@chembench.com>: [...] >Ahhh, usenet. If were all as clear as we think we are, there would be almost >no traffic ;-). >Discourse leads to understanding, so in the end, it is all good (except for >trolls, they are just lame IMHO). DD, it's rather nice of you to offer your 'smoothing' comments and from reading many of your posts, I know you mean well. I guess I just find all the armchair diagnosis of "eating disorders" on this group a bit annoying at times. And some of the the diagnosis is directed towards slim people that don't really need to gain weight to be more healthy -- frankly, by folks that could stand to *lose* some weight. ObQuirk: And what's up with proclaiming that a person that's a few pounds underweight according to standards is "eating disordered", while the person that could stand to lose 10-20# and is bursting out their clothes is not? They both could have 'control' issues. > Quoting "Dr_Dickie" <Dr_Dicke@chembench.com>: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > They both could have 'control' issues. This is, in fact, an excellent point. Signature223/173.3/180 Control issues, GOOD POINT indeed! My dad lived to be 93 and he was EXTREMELY THIN! He and my mom were VERY thin and guess how the three daughters were. Each one of us had this BIG weight problem (STILL DO) and our dad was ASHAMED of each one! HE loved us but HAtED our fat. He was very healthy and he walked a mile each morning. I'm trying to say that this WEIGHT THING IS in our heads PLUS that to be thin is to perhaps live a healthy LONG life. I hope that I'm not confusing here. I have seen LOTS of people with obesity who can TRACE this to thier parents!! BTW I'm the SMALLER now LOL :) glo > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full story > is a few posts up) > > http://bjoh.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm You look much better than I expected, however, I would change your haircut. I cannot say that you look sickly, in my subjective opinion. If you, say, gain 7 lbs of muscle and 3 lbs of fat, you would look near perfect! Signature223/173.3/180 >You look much better than I expected, however, I would change your haircut. I cannot say that you look sickly, in my subjective opinion. If you, say, gain 7 lbs of muscle and 3 lbs of fat, you would look near perfect! Thx Ig. I've had short hair all my life similar to yours. I've only grown it long in the last year so I'll hang on to it for a while yet. Yes, muscle, I definately need some muscle. 7 lbs you reckon? How long would that take? not that i'm in a hurry. >>You look much better than I expected, however, I would change your > haircut. I cannot say that you look sickly, in my subjective [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yes, muscle, I definately need some muscle. 7 lbs you reckon? How long would > that take? not that i'm in a hurry. If you work relatively hard, you could gain 7 lbs in a year. That would amount to 10 grams per day, not easy for a relatively small sized person, but, hopefully, doable. Signature223/173.3/180 A year! Really!! For a measly 7 lbs?!! Okay i've got time. /goes out to pump iron >>You look much better than I expected, however, I would change your > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Thx Ig. I've had short hair all my life similar to yours. I've only grown > it long in the last year so I'll hang on to it for a while yet. Do you have me kill-filed? Everyone else wants to make silly personal remarks about your individual appearance. I'm asking you lifestyle questions about goals and needs. Is your entire focus on looks? > Yes, muscle, I definately need some muscle. 7 lbs you reckon? How long would > that take? not that i'm in a hurry. Let's see, you do full body weightlifting 5 days a week, you run 6 days a week, you walk most evenings, you eat at a reduced calorie level... I'm trying to calculate how long it'll take you to put on 7 pounds of muscle. Still working on it. I'll let you know when the number comes to me. Delenn I would never kill-file you Delenn :) See my answer to your post above. >>>You look much better than I expected, however, I would change your >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >remarks about your individual appearance. I'm asking you lifestyle >questions about goals and needs. heh. he's responded to just about everything you've posted. maybe you should ask yourself if you have expectations. i don't expect everyone (or anyone, for that matter) to answer the questions i ask them online. if they do, that's great. you sound like you're getting worked up over him not providing you with the answers you want. :| david I think Delenn posted that while I was still writting out a response to the post above. Ig's post was short so I could respond quickly whereas Delenn's required a more considered reply. Looks healthy to me. BMI 19.6 I read in a CRON group that the best life expectancy has a BMI of 18. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." I'm concerned that you feel the need to lose more weight. IMHO: You should maintain right where you are. > ... for those of you who were concerned about my low weight. (My full story > is a few posts up) > > http://bjoh.bigpondhosting.com/photos.htm >I'm concerned that you feel the need to lose more weight. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. I don't intend to lose more weight. In fact I intend to increase it by adding muscle. >>I'm concerned that you feel the need to lose more weight. > >Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. I don't intend to lose more weight. In >fact I intend to increase it by adding muscle. how do you plan to do that? what kind of diet will you eat? david >how do you plan to do that? what kind of diet will you eat? 6 meals a day, protein in every meal, 2 cycles of work out per week on each muscle group, lots of rest >>how do you plan to do that? what kind of diet will you eat? > > 6 meals a day, protein in every meal, 2 cycles of work out per week on each > muscle group, lots of rest Hey! You heard me! This would work. Delenn OK I've taken my photos down now. Play the Pingu games if you like http://bjoh.bigpondhosting.com/links.htm |
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