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Wendy - 17 Mar 2005 04:04 GMT
I've known for awhile now that I have a problem with eating for the
wrong reasons. Not only is it totally irrational, it's a
self-destructive habit I somehow fell into and really need to find a way
to manage. Being bored, tired, depressed, angry, or sad is not a reason
to eat nor does it cure any of those feelings. Does anyone have any
suggestions/advice on better ways to manage stress? I have been
successfully dieting and exercising for almost two weeks now and instead
of feeling great I feel like my source of enjoyment/comfort is gone.
Does this make any sense? I think for the first time I am actually
starting to really understand that to get thin and stay that way I am
going to have to make real long-term lifestyle changes. Yo-yo dieting
will never, ever work. I know food is not about reward or punishment, as
in "I have been really good this week so I deserve a brownie" or "I am
not going to eat all day because I am fat and I don't need any more
calories". Suffice to say I need to lose about 50 lbs and I am having a
hard time grasping that less calories today means a better, healthier
life and trimmer, fitter me later. Sorry this turned into such a
rambling rant, if you are still with me thanks for listening.

Wendy
Beverly - 17 Mar 2005 17:36 GMT
> I've known for awhile now that I have a problem with eating for the
> wrong reasons. Not only is it totally irrational, it's a
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>
> Wendy

Wendy,

Many of us have the same problem but I think you've taken a big step in
overcoming it by just knowing it's a problem for you.  Many people
never associate their bad eating habits with a certain stress or
emotion.

I have a tendency to snack on food when I'm bored or tired.  I also
find myself snacking when I have a task to complete that I really hate.
I eat to avoid starting the task.  I could graze all day when it comes
time to sit down and pay bills each month<g>  It took me quite awhile
to recognize this behavior but once I recognized it I was able to stop
it.  It's the first thing I do in the morning before I even eat
breakfast.  Once it's complete I eat breakfast and don't have a
snacking problem the rest of the day.

Try to find rewards other than food for a job well done.  Make a list
of small things that need to be done around the house for those times
when you're bored.  I have such a list and some of the items are: clean
out top drawer of bedroom night stand, sort and file pictures, etc.
They don't have to be major tasks.

Find a hobby that will occupy your hands.  It's hard to eat when your
hands are busy.  Sewing, scrapbooking, etc.  Exercise is a great way to
relieve stress or boredom.

Now that you know you have a problem just start thinking of ways to
change your behavior associated with these emotions.  You may not be
able to overcome all of them in the beginning but just keep picking
away at the problems.  You'll get there....

Beverly
Wendy - 18 Mar 2005 00:40 GMT
Thanks for the replies and suggestions! Eating and preparing food fills
up so much time and is a very social event, at least in my family. When
I was pregnant I spent a lot of time cooking (and eating, lol) and
having people over for dinner and now that I am dieting I am really
trying to find activities to fill up the extra time. Change is hard to
accept sometimes, even if it is for the better. It's the struggle
between immediate gratification vs. doing something that will benefit me
in the long run. I can just imagine people seeing me post-baby and
overweight saying "Geez, Wendy sure did put on a lot of weight!" How
embarrassing!

Wendy
Chris Braun - 18 Mar 2005 04:42 GMT
>Try to find rewards other than food for a job well done.  

My problem has never been exactly emotional eating, but rather eating
for reward/celebration -- a general feeling that I'm indulging myself.
I still do this sometimes, but I have found alternatives that feel
decadent but don't involve food.  (For a while one of the main ones
was clothes shopping but I'm working on dropping this :-).)  My
substitute indulgences include:

* curling up in bed with a pile of mindless magazines
* watching TV shows I've recorded on TiVo.  (I never used to watch TV
much before we had this -- since I don't tend to watch normal network
stuff -- and so I never developed a habit of eating while watching TV.
I do like to sip on Diet Pepsi, though.)
* playing computer games -- currently really into Scrabble
* soaking in a hot bubble bath
* usenet :-)

Chris
262/130s/130s
started dieting July 2002, maintaining since June 2004
Beverly - 17 Mar 2005 17:36 GMT
> I've known for awhile now that I have a problem with eating for the
> wrong reasons. Not only is it totally irrational, it's a
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Wendy

Wendy,

Many of us have the same problem but I think you've taken a big step in
overcoming it by just knowing it's a problem for you.  Many people
never associate their bad eating habits with a certain stress or
emotion.

I have a tendency to snack on food when I'm bored or tired.  I also
find myself snacking when I have a task to complete that I really hate.
I eat to avoid starting the task.  I could graze all day when it comes
time to sit down and pay bills each month<g>  It took me quite awhile
to recognize this behavior but once I recognized it I was able to stop
it.  It's the first thing I do in the morning before I even eat
breakfast.  Once it's complete I eat breakfast and don't have a
snacking problem the rest of the day.

Try to find rewards other than food for a job well done.  Make a list
of small things that need to be done around the house for those times
when you're bored.  I have such a list and some of the items are: clean
out top drawer of bedroom night stand, sort and file pictures, etc.
They don't have to be major tasks.

Find a hobby that will occupy your hands.  It's hard to eat when your
hands are busy.  Sewing, scrapbooking, etc.  Exercise is a great way to
relieve stress or boredom.

Now that you know you have a problem just start thinking of ways to
change your behavior associated with these emotions.  You may not be
able to overcome all of them in the beginning but just keep picking
away at the problems.  You'll get there....

Beverly
Roland D LeBay - 17 Mar 2005 20:24 GMT
> I've known for awhile now that I have a problem with eating for the
> wrong reasons. Not only is it totally irrational, it's a
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>
> Wendy

hey wendy

i've recently started reading a book called  "Breaking Free from Compulsive
Eating"
by Geneen Roth

having read many of the books out there this is the first one that i feel
really gets to the heart of the habit and provides practical tools to
re-train.

it discusses the whys, the hows, the whats and the whens of compulsive
eating and at no point is a "diet book". i believe this book will get me off
the hellish merry go round of losing/gaining/obsessing.

good luck!
Cubit - 19 Mar 2005 20:55 GMT
With all due respect, I have come to believe that there is no such thing as
emotional eating.

IMHO:  Something is causing your body to want more food, and whatever is
going on at the time tends to get blamed, such as an emotional state.  I'm
not clear if the cause would be a nutritional deficit or something about the
modern unnatural foods most of us eat.  Perhaps both.  In my view, if you
were satiated and tried to eat, you would experience nausea.  Thus, emotions
have nothing to do with it.

So often, we have been told to blame ourselves for a phenomenon that is
physiological in nature.  When a doctor fails to understand an illness, he
blames the patient.  We live in the dark ages.
greg - 19 Mar 2005 22:15 GMT
> IMHO:  Something is causing your body to want more food, and whatever is
> going on at the time tends to get blamed, such as an emotional state.  

Food is psychoactive. If you are depressed fat and sugar do make you
feel better. So i don't think that's classic emotional eating, it's just
taking a asprin when you have headache.
Polar Light - 20 Mar 2005 00:25 GMT
> With all due respect, I have come to believe that there is no such thing
> as
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> modern unnatural foods most of us eat.  Perhaps both.  In my view, if you
> were satiated and tried to eat, you would experience nausea.

I would be inclined to agree since I do feel discomfort when I eat too much,
even on my 'refeed' (or planned cheat) days. However, how do you explain
morbid obesity? You'd have to eat well past you're satiated to reach weights
of 300-400 lbs. Lots of people seem to have no trouble reaching those
weights without experiencing nausea.
Cubit - 20 Mar 2005 06:02 GMT
I was once 320 and I fought the battle all the way up.  I felt deprived of
food and hungry as I tried to limit myself.  I gained weight anyway.  I
don't recall ever stuffing myself beyond satiation.

> > With all due respect, I have come to believe that there is no such thing
> > as
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> of 300-400 lbs. Lots of people seem to have no trouble reaching those
> weights without experiencing nausea.
Nuclear Girl - 22 Mar 2005 22:27 GMT
> I was once 320 and I fought the battle all the way up.  I felt deprived of
> food and hungry as I tried to limit myself.  I gained weight anyway.  I
> don't recall ever stuffing myself beyond satiation.

Myself, I was tettering on the 400 lb mark.  I have tried every
diet/non-diet known to me, without success (at that point).  It didn't
matter what I did or how much I ate, I wanted/needed more.  Food (in my
memory of childhood) was the one thing I had control over.  Whether sad
or happy, I controlled how much went in my mouth.  I had no idea how
much I ate, until recently, and let me tell you three people could have
been quite satisfied.  I had no recollection of what satisfied, full,
hungry, etc meant.  At many time, in my twenties and thirties, I would
go to several fast food places, order regular size meals at each and
consume them all when I got home.  There were times, during these
"binges" I would be in tears, still unable to stop myself.

Food seems to be a medication to me, in that, there was a hurt of some
sort and food to soothe the pain, numb the feelings, fill the
void...yadda, yadda.
Problem being, it never did any of these things, but boy did I keep
trying.
It didn't really matter which emotion was envolved (sad, happy,
depressed, joy....) it had long been associated with food.

Now, to address the current problem.  I still want to eat, when I'm
under stress or very sad.  Currently, I am under an enormous amount of
stress, mostly personal (TG not marriage related).  I find myself being
quite satisfied, that nice slightly full comfortable feeling, and still
wanting to shove something in my mouth.  There are times when it just
consumes me.  Usually, I try to go to bed at these times.  A lot of
times, I have either gotten too tired, too hungry, too stressed, too
stretched, too something and old habits start to call and nudge me with
"just this once, it would be so easy to make yourself feel better".
THERE, is where I am learning to say, no it won't make it better, it
will only make it worse.  I will betray myself to a "demon" that has
stalked me all my life.  Thankfully, I can talk to my husband about it,
but he will even say He doesn't understand.

Yes, there is emotional eating.  Sometimes, we don't know it.
Sometimes, we don't know what emotion.  Sometimes, it is unrelated.
Redirecting is the best thing I have found out so far.  Finding
something else to do, another activity or location to be in,... or just
go to bed and sign off to oblivion.

Sorry, this was late and long.  Hope I made some sense.

Donna K.
398.8/281.6/275 (current short term goal)
Willow Darcy Shaw - 20 Mar 2005 01:00 GMT
Hi Wendy,

I can be an emotional eater sometimes too.  But I find now, being able to
keep control of my eating and my weight during those times of chaos gives me
power; power to control at lease one thing in my life.

Willow

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Willow Darcy Shaw from Atlantic Canada
Current Loss: -20 lbs
Mini Goal: lose 25 lbs by 1st week May
Ultimate Goal: lose 70 lbs

> I've known for awhile now that I have a problem with eating for the
> wrong reasons. Not only is it totally irrational, it's a
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>
> Wendy
 
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