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Joseph Scully - 23 Mar 2005 13:50 GMT
Hi
I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it, asap.
I have had a few attempts at trying to lose weight, but without success. I
am looking for some software that I can use to help track my progress, and
record my diet and exercise, and be able to monitor my progress.

Can anyone recommend something??

I have found this product, but have not yet purchased it.
www.dakware.com
I like the idea of being able to use the PDA, as I need a machine to remind
me, and organise me.

I would be grateful if anyone could offer any help.

Thanks

Joe.
avid - 23 Mar 2005 13:56 GMT
FitDay
DietPower
WeightWare

I use DietPower on the PC.  Not sure what is best for a PDA, although I
think there were some posts about that.

Mel
eat less, move more
225/214/160

> Hi
> I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it, asap.
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>
> Joe.
Joseph Scully - 23 Mar 2005 14:09 GMT
Thanks for the quick reply.

I tried the demo of DietPower, and found it to be a little clumsy in my
experience. The Interface looks better on this one, and the PDA support
looks promising, especially for me, who needs reminding and generally
nagging!!

I'll have a look at the others you mentioned.

Thanks!

> FitDay
> DietPower
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>>
>> Joe.
Ignoramus25277 - 23 Mar 2005 14:51 GMT
I can recommend fitday, as it is free. Also
www.caloriesperhour.com. There is no requirement that you must have
software to lose weight, it can be done without software.

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Polar Light - 23 Mar 2005 15:18 GMT
>I can recommend fitday, as it is free. Also
> www.caloriesperhour.com. There is no requirement that you must have
> software to lose weight, it can be done without software.

Of course it can be done, people have been doing so since long before
computers, however, it can be of help.

Personally, I find just having to enter everything on Fitday gives me a
sense of 'accountability', even if only to myself. I find it harder to go
over my calorie limit or to cheat when it's all on the screen. It can also
be educational, before I never really thought about things like spices,
coffee, lettuce, chewing gum, etc. having calories.

With traditional calorie counters (books) it can be cumbersome to translate
the gien values to what you actually ate, I used to estimate but always
tended to underestimate ;-)
Polar Light - 23 Mar 2005 15:06 GMT
I've been using FitDay PC for 5 weeks now & I really like it. The online
version is free but the speed, convenience & added features of the PC
version are definitely worth the $20.

> Hi
> I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it, asap.
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>
> Joe.
GaryG - 23 Mar 2005 16:20 GMT
> Hi
> I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it, asap.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Joe.

I recommend WeightWare ( http://www.WeightWare.com ), but I'm the author of
it, so I guess that's no surprise :-).

WeightWare is primarily a weight, health, and exercise diary.  It does not
use a "calorie counting" approach to weight loss, because counting calories
is time-consuming and error prone.  Instead, it analyzes your weight history
using statistical techniques to calculate your daily "energy balance".  This
unique approach is much easier than calorie counting, and because it is
based on your actual recorded weights, it is more accurate too.

To see if it meets your needs, you can download a free, fully functional
30-day trial version from this web page:
http://www.shastasoftware.com/WeightWare/Download.htm

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http://www.WeightWare.com
Your Weight and Health Diary

Ignoramus25277 - 23 Mar 2005 16:37 GMT
Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
question. See below.

> Hi
> I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it, asap.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Can anyone recommend something??

Paul, I can recommend to disclose right away that you are advertising
your own website.

dakware.com is owner by Paul Aspinall. Recent posts by Paul Aspinall
such as

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source

come from 82.42.53.187.

"Joseph Scully"'s post comes from the same IP:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.42.53.187

> I have found this product, but have not yet purchased it.
> www.dakware.com

no sh.t, if you purchased your own product, you would definitely need
to go on serious medications.

> I like the idea of being able to use the PDA, as I need a machine to remind
> me, and organise me.
>
> I would be grateful if anyone could offer any help.

My suggestion for you would be to do what GaryG is doing, which is
genuinely participating in newsgroups, but mentioning your site at
proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
making false posts.

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GaryG - 23 Mar 2005 16:50 GMT
> Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
> this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> dakware.com is owner by Paul Aspinall. Recent posts by Paul Aspinall
> such as

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source

> come from 82.42.53.187.
>
> "Joseph Scully"'s post comes from the same IP:
>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.42.53.187

That is suspicious, but not conclusive.  The NNTP posting host is the IP of
the mail server that the message was first posted to.  But, it does not tell
us the IP of the poster...presumably, many people post using that same host.

GG

> > I have found this product, but have not yet purchased it.
> > www.dakware.com
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
> making false posts.
Ignoramus25277 - 23 Mar 2005 16:56 GMT
>> Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
>> this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> the mail server that the message was first posted to.  But, it does not tell
> us the IP of the poster...presumably, many people post using that same host.

That is not correct. NNTP-Posting-Host is the IP address of the computer
that submitted the message to the news server.

82.42.53.187 resolves to
82-42-53-187.cable.ubr05.knor.blueyonder.co.uk, which is customer
premises equipment for a UK cable internet ISP. That's where the
message originated from.

82.42.53.187 is not a mail server because its port 25 (SMTP, for
email) is firewalled off. Mail servers would have this port open.

i

> GG
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>> proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
>> making false posts.

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GaryG - 23 Mar 2005 17:53 GMT
> >> Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
> >> this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> >> dakware.com is owner by Paul Aspinall. Recent posts by Paul Aspinall
> >> such as

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source

> >> come from 82.42.53.187.
> >>
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>
> i

Thanks, Ig.  I don't recall where I heard that, but clearly it's incorrect.

I like to learn at least one new thing every day, and thanks to you, I've
learned my new thing for today.

GG

> > GG
> >
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> >> proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
> >> making false posts.
Buck Naked - 24 Mar 2005 16:51 GMT
>>On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 07:50:46 -0800, GaryG <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
>
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>>82.42.53.187 is not a mail server because its port 25 (SMTP, for
>>email) is firewalled off. Mail servers would have this port open.

port 25 is the DEFAULT port for SMTP not the required one.

>>i
>
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>>>>proper moments. rather than faking interest in your products and
>>>>making false posts.
Ignoramus5106 - 24 Mar 2005 18:02 GMT
>> "Ignoramus25277" <ignoramus25277@NOSPAM.25277.invalid> wrote in message
>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> port 25 is the DEFAULT port for SMTP not the required one.

R F C   821 says:

`` The SMTP transmission channel is a TCP connection established
between the sender process port U and the receiver process port L.
This single full duplex connection is used as the transmission
channel.  This protocol is assigned the service port 25 (31 octal),
that is L=25.''

i
Buck Naked - 24 Mar 2005 20:38 GMT
>>>"Ignoramus25277" <ignoramus25277@NOSPAM.25277.invalid> wrote in message
>>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> channel.  This protocol is assigned the service port 25 (31 octal),
> that is L=25.''

what's your point? i said it was the default and you point to the RFC
that says it's the default. are you trying to say that SMTP is required
to run on port 25?  clearly, it is the default. it is often implemented
on a different port to deter access.

jesus, this is why we need to crack down on issuing green cards.
   

> i
Ignoramus5106 - 24 Mar 2005 20:46 GMT
>>>>"Ignoramus25277" <ignoramus25277@NOSPAM.25277.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source
[quoted text clipped - 42 lines]
> to run on port 25?  clearly, it is the default. it is often implemented
> on a different port to deter access.

No, it does not say that it is "default", it says that it is
"assigned", period. That's the port that mail servers use to accept
mail from all over the world.

> jesus, this is why we need to crack down on issuing green cards.

port 25 would still be the SMTP port, even if you cracked down on
issuing green cards.
Buck Naked - 24 Mar 2005 21:12 GMT
>>>>>"Ignoramus25277" <ignoramus25277@NOSPAM.25277.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.photography/msg/d42334c5f22909fa?dmode=source
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> "assigned", period. That's the port that mail servers use to accept
> mail from all over the world.

most mail servers do use that port. not using it does not mean it is not
a mail server.

>>jesus, this is why we need to crack down on issuing green cards.
>
> port 25 would still be the SMTP port, even if you cracked down on
> issuing green cards.

but you'd be busy driving a cab and i wouldnt have to read your nonsense.
Donovan Rebbechi - 23 Mar 2005 17:26 GMT
> That is suspicious, but not conclusive.  The NNTP posting host is the IP of
> the mail server that the message was first posted to.  

That is incorrect on two counts. First, usenet messages are posted to a *NEWS*
server, not a mail server. Second, the NNTP posting host is the address of the
machine on which the usenet client is running on, it is not the address of the
server. Now it's true that several people could post from the same post, for
example, if they're running a news client on a remote unix host like I do ...
but in this case, he's running outlook express.  It's also true that with
dynamic IP addresses, it's possible that two different people could use the
same address to post at different times -- but much less probable than it would
be if everyone from the same ISP had the same NNTP posting host field.

Cheers,
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GaryG - 23 Mar 2005 17:55 GMT
> > That is suspicious, but not conclusive.  The NNTP posting host is the IP of
> > the mail server that the message was first posted to.
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>
> Cheers,

Thanks for the heads-up.  I've learned my new thing for today.

GG
Matthew - 23 Mar 2005 17:44 GMT
> Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out that
> this is the site owner's self advertising and not a genuine
> question. See below.

I was suprised that you didn't catch this at first. I was suspicious
and was hoping you would do the footwork. Thanks.

BTW, he also posted to MFW.
Ignoramus25277 - 23 Mar 2005 18:00 GMT
>> Before you go out on your limb to help this poster: it turns out
> that
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>
> BTW, he also posted to MFW.

I did not see it there, I check it once in a while, but not always.

At first, I thought that it was a legitimate post (despite mention of
a particular website), but then I saw his post in rec.running and alarm
bells rang.

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Carol Frilegh - 23 Mar 2005 17:50 GMT
> Hi
> I have recently put quite a lot of weight on, and need to shed it, asap.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Can anyone recommend something??

"Fitday" and "Diet Sleuth" are great

www.fitday.com

"Fitday"is much more detailed for those types who  love doing their own
Income tax returns. I use both, "Fitday" when being neurotically
compulsive and "Diet Sleuth" When I want to be on the go but still keep
tabs on things.

Note: "Diet Sleuth is a nutritional package for the Macintosh, with
information for more than 5000 foods.

www.blackcatsystems.com/software/diet.htm

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