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Study: Obese Salespeople Face Discrimination in Sales Industry
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Violet Green - 25 Mar 2005 04:49 GMT Study: Obese Salespeople Face Discrimination in Sales Industry InsideINdianaBusiness.com Report
3/23/2005 3:22:37 PM
A study conducted by the H.H. Gregg Center for Professional Selling at Ball State University found that discrimination against obese professionals is rampant in the sales industry.
The study found that obese salespeople were less likely to be considered for quality assignments even when their performance and qualifications were the same as someone of a lesser weight.
Source: Inside INdiana Business
Ball State University Press Release
MUNCIE, Ind. In the eyes of many sales managers, employees of ideal weight are more qualified to work the best sales territories while obese sales people are relegated to the worst areas if they are hired at all, says a new study from Ball State University.
A survey of 122 Midwest-based sales managers, directors of sales or business owners found obesity-caused discrimination is rampant in the sales industry, says Ramon A. Avila, director of Ball State's H.H. Gregg Center for Professional Selling, who co-authored the study with Shaheen Borna, a marketing professor.
"Our findings support the proposition that obesity is a factor when assigning territories, which is the fundamental management activity in the industry," said Avila, who is also the George and Frances Ball Distinguished Professor of Marketing. "Obese salespeople were less likely to be considered for quality assignments. Even when performance and qualifications were constant, sales managers are likely to discriminate by weight. While it may not be conscious, it still exists."
In the study, managers were asked to assign new employees to territories based on an information sheet and two versions of a photo of the employee one at ideal weight and the other obese. Both male and female candidates had the same facial shots and clothing, but computer morphing added pounds to create an "obese" person.
Sales managers were informed that two territories needed sales people. They had the option of rejecting the candidate or allowing the person to be assigned to a sales territory out of his or her control.
The study found managers:
--Were less likely to assign an obese person to one of the two vacancies
--Were less likely to hire an obese woman than an obese man
--Were less likely to assign an obese woman to the most desirable territories
--Were more likely to assign people of "ideal" weight to better territories
The study also found that managers with 10 or more years of experience were less likely to assign or hire an obese person to fill one of the vacancies.
"Sales managers in this research project, and in most recent studies, have shown less of a tendency to discriminate by sex," Avila said. "Sex discrimination has received much more attention and is much more likely to be included in sensitivity and diversity training. The time may be right for more attention to obesity in these types of training programs.
"We also found indications that obesity discrimination is more likely to occur when women deal with obese women," he said. "Although the social identity explanation for
this phenomenon is theoretically elegant, sales managers and higher-level managers must acknowledge and develop ways to deal with this real and potentially sensitive problem."
Avila said the study pointed out that experienced managers, who were less likely to assign obese people to vacant territories, also need to participate in such training programs.
Source: Ball State University
Bill D - 26 Mar 2005 16:23 GMT Of course, fat people are discriminated against. Especially if they are women!
Get over it or lose weight!
> Study: Obese Salespeople Face Discrimination in Sales Industry > InsideINdianaBusiness.com Report [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] > > Source: Ball State University Lady Veteran - 26 Mar 2005 20:25 GMT >Of course, fat people are discriminated against. Especially if they >are women! > >Get over it or lose weight! I think your brain is too weak and fragile to be out by itself. You must be one of those dime-a-dozen idiots.
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Lucy - 27 Mar 2005 08:40 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > LV Agreed, Lady Veteran.. people who resort to childish name calling on usenet should be shot. Why don't you start with yourself. lucy
roger61611@yahoo.com - 27 Mar 2005 09:42 GMT (The first 4 posts in this news group are about weight, at 3:30 EST on 3/27/2005 ?)
Anyway, the "lookism" goes farther than weight, companies with a sales force discriminate on anything and everything related to appearance. I can tell you from experience that both Computer Associates and Eli Lilly hire mainly "attractive" people as sales reps., for example. Not just "not fat" but actual Barbie and Ken lookalikes.
The same thing goes in all facets of customer interaction. You never see a fat hostess at a restaurant like Friday's (insert bland corporate restaurant name of your choice). You never even see a male. It's always some 21 year old hot chick.
Some qualities are necessary for doing the job, for example, when you call a company to buy something you never get someone on the line with a speech impediment. Although some accents might as well be impediments. But one's weight has nothing to do with one's ability to sell and one's appearance has nothing to do with one's ability to show someone to a table and hand them menus.
On this Easter Sunday for my fellow Christians - why is Jesus always portrayed in the movies as a physically attractive person ? He was probably a skinny, dirty, short guy with a scraggly beard. Corporations have idealized him into a (sometimes blue-eyed !) surfer dude. Does it make a difference that the word of God has to be delivered by someone physically attractive ? Would we Christians be less willing to accept Jesus if he looked like a Jewish vagrant, which, arguably, he was ? What if he had a deformity, like a hairlip ? Would we say, no thanks, I'd rather go to hell than follow a messiah with a hairlip ?
Especially in the US we place far too much stock in appearance and especially in people's weight, and esp esp on women's weight. Like when Jessica Simpson first started out and Sony told her to lose weight; she was beautiful and normal looking before she lost the 10 pounds.
Bill D - 27 Mar 2005 17:46 GMT > (The first 4 posts in this news group are about weight, at 3:30 EST on > 3/27/2005 ?) [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > restaurant name of your choice). You never even see a male. It's > always some 21 year old hot chick. That's really true. Go to the mall and look at the sales people at Abercrombie, or Gap, or Aeropostale. They all look like their clients. All the waiters at Red Robin are beautiful, skinny, young people. Just try to get a job at Hooters if you don't fit their profile! I'm not defending any of this, it's just the way things are.
Rather than complain about all this, just realize that life is not fair. Understand it and develop strategies to succeed in spite of it. Bitching about it will just turn you into a bitter, lonely person.
Lady Veteran - 27 Mar 2005 20:40 GMT >> (The first 4 posts in this news group are about weight, at 3:30 >> EST on 3/27/2005 ?) [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >it. Bitching about it will just turn you into a bitter, lonely >person. One can affect their own space. Because discrimination exist and we have to put up with it, doesn't make it right or acceptable.
Defeatist attitudes get you nowhere. Make life better for others does not result in becoming a bitter lonely person. Not attempting change and whining about it is what causes bitterness. One should not blame others for a situation until you have at least tried to change it.
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Lady Veteran - 27 Mar 2005 20:37 GMT >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >usenet should be shot. Why don't you start with yourself. >lucy You first, idiot. Go fellate a rifle. My sig file has instructions to follow if you don't want to hear from me. You can read can't you??
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Lucy - 28 Mar 2005 08:48 GMT > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > - ------------------------------------------------------ > I rode a tank (Because no man would have the fat c.nt) Hondo - 28 Mar 2005 14:04 GMT And they should.
I personally don't *choose* to deal with obese salespeople. Much in the same way the gluttonous obese *choose* to shovel the food in their face.
You make your choice, and I'll make mine. If you're not chosen, don't be surprised.
Marengo - 29 Mar 2005 02:51 GMT || And they should. || [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] || You make your choice, and I'll make mine. If you're not chosen, || don't be surprised. Is your penis really so tiny that you feel the need to feel bigger by crossposting to newsgroups that have no interest in your small-mided opinions?
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israel - 30 Mar 2005 06:59 GMT > I personally don't *choose* to deal with obese salespeople. I know an obese estate agent. He has become so large that he cant button his shirt anymore.
After his latest weight gain, his employer sacked him, because customers would refuse to deal with him.
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