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gp - 25 Apr 2005 06:45 GMT
has anyone had experince with having vegetable juice in diet with some fruit
for flavour.

q) how much juice can you drink a day, I try 250ml minimum with water
q) how sweet can you make  a combibation of vegetable juice
q) does adding water to juice reduce its effectiveness
q) can you store vegetable juice in air-tight containers
Marc Rohde - 26 Apr 2005 12:48 GMT
I don't think there is a hard and fast rule regarding "how much", the
calories in juice count the same as any other.  I do believe that if you are
on a low card diet juice should be avoided since it is high in carbs.

When dieting I avoid juice altogether.  I found, for the most part juice
contains a higher calorie content by volume than I am interested in
consuming since the fiber has been extracted.  In stead I focus on the
actual fruits or veggies since they allow me to remain full longer.

a. If you are going to drink juice it can replace some of your water,
remember 1 c. tomato juice = 41 cal and water = 0 cal.
a. To answer the question regarding adding water one needs to understand why
you are consuming juice.  Adding water will simply allow you to reduce the
calories by volume, 1 c. water + 1 c. tomato juice will have 41 cal/2 c.
instead of tomato juice alone which is 41 cal/1 c.  This allows half as many
calories by volume in this example and will have the same nutritional values
as the 1 c. of  "full strength" tomato juice.
a. I don't see any reason why you couldn't store juice in an air tight
container...just refrigerate for food safety.

> has anyone had experince with having vegetable juice in diet with some fruit
> for flavour.
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> q) does adding water to juice reduce its effectiveness
> q) can you store vegetable juice in air-tight containers

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Carol Frilegh - 26 Apr 2005 13:48 GMT
> I don't think there is a hard and fast rule regarding "how much", the
> calories in juice count the same as any other.  I do believe that if you are
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> > q) does adding water to juice reduce its effectiveness
> > q) can you store vegetable juice in air-tight containers

I use juice but dilute it with water. I have a juicer and make two
frequent combos

beet-strawberries-grapefruit and ginger
pear-kale-dandelion greens and ginger

I also use Tropicana Orange and siometime fresh squeezed citrus also
Heinz Tomato and some times Welch's or kedem  grape or Dole pineapple
juices, hWelch's or heinz. My celiac diet restricts me to these as I
can be certain they have no added or undisclosed sugar.  

They are calories without fiber so I am moderate but the raw juices
have valuable enzymes. i make sure to eat whole fruits on the same days
i juice, always a large salad and several cooked vegetables.

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Anny Middon - 26 Apr 2005 14:34 GMT
> q) can you store vegetable juice in air-tight containers
Store in refrigerator.  I think the shelf-life refrigerated is still
relatively short.

For longer storage, freeze it.  You could can it, but with veggie juices you
will need a pressure canner (fruit juices can be boiling-water-bath canned).
Canning requires cooking the juice, so you'll use that "fresh-squoze" taste
(and possibly some nutrients).

I'm not a food scientist, but it's possible that you'll lose some nutrients
with any juice that's been around for a while.

Anny
Renegade5 - 29 Apr 2005 12:49 GMT
>has anyone had experince with having vegetable juice in diet with some fruit
>for flavour.
Not - but I often dilute my juice with water.

>q) how much juice can you drink a day, I try 250ml minimum with water
I drink about a cup a day.  I don't think I'd drink more than 2 cups
per day (too calorie dense).  There is proven benefit of drinking a
cup of juice per day (ie. orange juice and it's affect on lowering
blood pressure) but, like anything, too much of a good thing...

Gary Null and other anti-aging progams are proponents of drinking
juice, but in those cases is usually vegetable and fruit juices,
fresh/hand squeezed, and 'sipped slowly' during the day (not
'chugged').

Hand squeezing juice is too bothersome for me, but i try to drink as
natural a juice as I can find - avoid juices high in sugar
(glucose-fructose), choose ones high in pulp (fiber, and slows
digestion).  Tropicana and Minute Maid now have a couple of good
calorie and sugar reduced juices available.

>q) how sweet can you make  a combibation of vegetable juice
>q) does adding water to juice reduce its effectiveness
No.  In fact, it's better from a blood sugar and calorie perspective.

>q) can you store vegetable juice in air-tight containers
I've heard that you can make it the night before for the following
day, but not store it any longer than that (but again, I'm not really
into juicing, so...)
 
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