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Angie - 16 Nov 2003 15:33 GMT
I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change
from groups where it is nothing but spam or trolls.

I want to introduce myself and try to wedge into your group, if that is ok.

I am one of those girls who has had a weight problem from the time the doc
slapped my hiney.  I have tried every single diet under the sun; some
worked, some didn't.  After all of the bad things I've put in my mouth and
done to my body, I ballooned up to 325 pounds.  (I'm 5'5" by the way.)

On October 1st of 2002, my new husband, who is also my personal trainer, (he
hates when I call him that!), showed me what I had been doing wrong.  With a
combination of eating well, weightlifting and cardio, I have lost 155
pounds.  My goal is not necessarily a particular weight because with the
weightlifting I am doing, my body is changing so much that I'm not sure I
will have a set number of pounds I aspire to achieve.  I am just trying to
get to that point where I am truly happy with what I see looking back in the
mirror.

Thanks for listening to me go on and on and on.  :)

I hope everyone is having a fabulous Sunday.

Angie
Chris Braun - 16 Nov 2003 15:58 GMT
>I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
>impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change
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>
>Angie

Welcome to the group, Angie!  A cool story -- you've really
accomplished a lot in a short time!  Tell us more about how you're
eating and working out.

I love my personal trainer too (though not in that way :-) ).  

Chris
262/175/???  (I also don't know where I want to end up.  I do a lot of
lifting as well and have a lot of muscle.  And I'm also 5'5".)
Dragutin Sver - 16 Nov 2003 17:34 GMT
Patricia Heil - 16 Nov 2003 19:14 GMT
You should be the poster child for doing things right.  WTG!

> I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
> impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change
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>
> Angie
Beverly - 17 Nov 2003 13:43 GMT
Welcome Angie and congratulations!  You've certainly found the program that
works for you.  I hope to see you posting often.

Beverly

> I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
> impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change
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>
> Angie
Gloria - 18 Nov 2003 22:56 GMT
Welcome Angie!!!
Good to see you here and you have made great success!!

ciao,

glo
determined - 17 Nov 2003 16:49 GMT
> I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
> impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change
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>
> I hope everyone is having a fabulous Sunday.

Welcome Angie!  Care to share your current weightlifting routine?  I am also
an avid weightlifter (since August anyways...) and I think a better goal
than a specific weight would be a bodyfat %.  My goal is 20-22%.

det
Wendy - 18 Nov 2003 18:53 GMT
> On October 1st of 2002, my new husband, who is also my personal trainer, (he
> hates when I call him that!), showed me what I had been doing wrong.  With a
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> get to that point where I am truly happy with what I see looking back in the
> mirror.

Wow!  I've lost 55 pounds in that time with the same routine.  I am
envious of you for getting all the way down to 170 (my goal area) while
I'm still stuck with 15 or 20 pounds that don't seem to be budging
anymore.

Are you in maintenance now or are you still losing?  What's your body fat
percentage and what's your goal for that?

I'm glad to have another weightlifter join our group, but I have to say
I'm a bit taken aback that you arrive AFTER it's accomplished while I
grind out week after week of teensy nothings for weight loss.  (I only
feel inadequate because we seem to be doing the same plan - is your Body
for Life or a different one?)

Wendy
244/189/174 (whose only lost 6 pounds in the past three months)
Angie - 19 Nov 2003 12:30 GMT
> Wow!  I've lost 55 pounds in that time with the same routine.  I am
> envious of you for getting all the way down to 170 (my goal area) while
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> Wendy
> 244/189/174 (whose only lost 6 pounds in the past three months)

Hi Wendy and everyone.  Thank you so much for the welcome.  : )

Congratulations on your weight loss!  You said that you were stuck as far as
pounds go but are you still losing inches?

I'm not in maintenance yet.  I still have quite a bit of fat loss that needs
to take place.  If I were going for a weight goal, I'd have to say somewhere
around 140 or so.  That number is just an estimate though because my main
concern is the inches that I want to lose.  Body fat percentage ... I
honestly don't know.  I have never even attempted to measure the chunkiness
of the butt.  : D  One of these days, I will do that.

I sure do wish that I could have found you guys a year ago.  I never
realized this place existed until about 2 months ago.  The small town that I
am from doesn't look at "little ol' girls in the 'men's' part of the gym" as
a positive thing.  If it weren't for the encouragement of my husband and
son, I'm not sure I would have had the courage to come as far as I have.
There just isn't a lot of support here.

My husband, Mark, has been a weightlifter for a very long time and when we
met, he told me that he could help me get into shape.  So, I suppose the
plan that I'm following is the Mark Plan.  : )  I'm not quite sure what Body
for Life is but I'd love to hear about it, if you wouldn't mind telling me.

Here is an example of a typical week for me.

Mondays - Chest and biceps, Abs, Cardio for 30 min.
Tuesdays - Legs, Abs (squats and deadlifts are my favorite here)
Wednesdays - Shoulders and Back, Abs, Cardio for 30
Thursdays - Biceps, triceps, Abs
Fridays - Cardio for 30 (cross training)
Saturday and Sunday - absolutely nothing because we are too lazy.

As far as eating goes, I eat every 3-4 hours and make my meal primarily
protein.  The main thing I do is just make sure that what I eat throughout
the week is healthy and enough.  I don't take in dairy or white flours.
(whole wheat pasta, bread and brown rice instead)  Lots and lots of
vitamins.  On the weekends, we aren't so particular about what we eat.  We
give ourselves something to look forward to and usually eat something really
bad for us.  : )

I hope that I've answered everyone's questions.  I didn't want to clog up
the ng with a lot of posts from me, so I tried to break it down into one
post.

Thanks again for such a warm welcome.
Wendy - 19 Nov 2003 14:24 GMT
> Body fat percentage ... I
> honestly don't know.  I have never even attempted to measure the chunkiness
> of the butt.  : D  One of these days, I will do that.

There are some easy tape measure routines that aren't terribly awful.  I
use a site at:
http://www.biofitness.com/bodyfat.html

> I sure do wish that I could have found you guys a year ago.  I never
> realized this place existed until about 2 months ago.  The small town that I
> am from doesn't look at "little ol' girls in the 'men's' part of the gym" as
> a positive thing.  

LOL, my gym started a "beginning weight-lifters" class on T/Th morning and
now the weight room is filled with 40-ish Mommies and senior citizens all
day.  It's the local Y and they have more of a non-gorgeous clientele tha
most gyms.  :-)

> My husband, Mark, has been a weightlifter for a very long time and when we
> met, he told me that he could help me get into shape.  So, I suppose the
> plan that I'm following is the Mark Plan.  : )  I'm not quite sure what Body
> for Life is but I'd love to hear about it, if you wouldn't mind telling me.

The website is www.bodyforlife.com but the plan is really in the book
"Body for Life" by Bill Phillips.  It's a very similar routine to the one
you're doing: three days of high intensity inteval training, three days of
intense weightlifting in a two-day split, i.e., Back/Chest/Shoulders/Arms
is one day, then two days later you do Legs & Abs.  It's a half-pyramid
routine with six sets and takes about 45 minutes to do.  (I usually warm
up for 10 minutes or so and stretch for five minutes so it takes me an
hour to do.)

The eating is the same, the week-end refeed is the same...  but the cash
prizes and support are better doing Body For Life!  It's set up as a 12
Week Challenge program where you enter a contest and then spend 12 weeks
working on some specific goals of your own within the framework of the
Challenge.  It's very supportive and inspiring and 12 weeks works out to
be a nice timeframe for working on a specific goal.

I'm at the end of my fourth challenge.  In between chalenges I do the same
stuff, just less focused with more workouts missed and more "free" meals.

Wendy
Angie - 20 Nov 2003 15:33 GMT
> There are some easy tape measure routines that aren't terribly awful.  I
> use a site at:
> http://www.biofitness.com/bodyfat.html

Thanks so much!  I am going to check this out as soon as I get a chance.

> LOL, my gym started a "beginning weight-lifters" class on T/Th morning and
> now the weight room is filled with 40-ish Mommies and senior citizens all
> day.  It's the local Y and they have more of a non-gorgeous clientele tha
> most gyms.  :-)

That must be wonderful.  I wish there were women who worked out at my gym.
The ladies who do join, either do aerobics alone or just never show up
again.  : /  It took some time for me to get used to being in the gym with
nothing but guys.  Eventually a lot of them got used to be my being there
and now I'm old hat.  : )

> The website is www.bodyforlife.com but the plan is really in the book
> "Body for Life" by Bill Phillips.  It's a very similar routine to the one
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>
> Wendy

It sure does sound similar.  I am on my way to read more at the site.
Thanks so much for sharing.  : )
Mary M - Ohio - 19 Nov 2003 16:05 GMT
> I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
> impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change

Angie, I am so happy for you! We have a common weight history -- I was overweight
since childhood, reached 325 lbs, and am now 149-150 with about 5-10 left to lose. I
also did it by healthy eating and exercise (over a much longer period than you
took -- I took the first 100 off about 18 years ago and lost around 80 in the past 18
months). Since I know just what it takes to achieve what you did, I really salute
your determination! My nutritionist has told me that people who do what we've done --
taking and keeping off large amounts of weight despite a lifelong problem with it --
are quite rare and that it takes way more effort and commitment than someone who's
gained weight as an adult. Fantastic job and I hope to see you posting again!

Mary M
325-150-145
Ignoramus18270 - 19 Nov 2003 16:27 GMT
>> I've been reading this group for quite some time and have been very
>> impressed with how supportive you all truly are.  It's such a nice change
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> Mary M
> 325-150-145

Was it "hard" for you? By "hard" I do not mean having to spend time on
it, such as a couple of hours per day exercising. By hard I mean
having to deal with temptations, irresistible cravings, being upset
that you cannot have fun with food etc?

i
Mary M - Ohio - 20 Nov 2003 01:57 GMT
> Was it "hard" for you? By "hard" I do not mean having to spend time on
> it, such as a couple of hours per day exercising. By hard I mean
> having to deal with temptations, irresistible cravings, being upset
> that you cannot have fun with food etc?

Yes, Ig, I don't often admit it to others or even myself, but it was very hard to
give up sugar all those years ago --God, the first Christmas without cookies/candy,
the first Easter, the first birthday without a cake, the first Thanksgiving without
pie -- etc. etc. etc. -- but after all the "firsts" were over it was a bit better.

And yes, it was hard adjusting to my nutritionist's plan--at least the first couple
of weeks -- with terribly bad eating habits to overcome all at once. In fact I ran
into an old boyfriend's mother today who got tears in her eyes when she saw how much
weight I had lost, so I told her about my nutritionist. She said -- "Oh yes, I went
to him and lasted on his program two months. I just couldn't do it." And I said that
it *was* hard for me too, but I eventually got used to it.

Yes, once in awhile I do whine to myself about not being able to have (whatever) --
but that's just negative thinking. I wouldn't trade my accomplishment for all the
(whatever) in the world. It's a great feeling every day -- and so in that sense, no
it hasn't been hard -- it has been a joy. You can see that I have all kinds of
feelings mixed up in my weight loss but they are overwhelmingly positive. I do
believe in the Overeaters Anonymous saying that "Every binge begins with a negative
thought." So I just have to keep positive and not be a crybaby. Lots of other people
have LOTS harder challenges in life. Giving up candy (and lots of other things) seems
embarrassingly easy when I think of others who can't see, walk, hear, talk, etc.
This is a challenge I can welcome when I think of it that way.

Mary M
Ignoramus18270 - 20 Nov 2003 04:00 GMT
>In article <vro7tg37g5ia9b@corp.supernews.com>, Mary M - Ohio wrote:
>> Was it "hard" for you? By "hard" I do not mean having to spend time on
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> embarrassingly easy when I think of others who can't see, walk, hear, talk, etc.
> This is a challenge I can welcome when I think of it that way.

I see. Well, congratulations. To me, as of now, not eating sugar and
other sweeteners is surprisingly easy.

i
janice - 20 Nov 2003 08:47 GMT
>Yes, Ig, I don't often admit it to others or even myself, but it was very hard to
>give up sugar all those years ago --God, the first Christmas without cookies/candy,
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>embarrassingly easy when I think of others who can't see, walk, hear, talk, etc.
>This is a challenge I can welcome when I think of it that way.

Mary, I'm so glad you shared this with us. It's refreshing to hear
someone who's had such enormous success as you have still not denying
that it wasn't easy.  As has been said here in other threads, often
people who haven't been able to stick with it want to hear that people
who have lost a large amount of weight must have some magic answer if
only they would share it.  I don't fall for this myself, but a story
like yours only serves to tell me what I know already, that there's
nothing special about you (no offence meant here!) and that there's
really nothing to stop any of us doing what you did.  The difference
is, you've done it and I haven't (yet).  
You continue to be an inspiration - I wish I could meet you IRL :)
janice
Mary M - Ohio - 20 Nov 2003 16:16 GMT
> Mary, I'm so glad you shared this with us. It's refreshing to hear
> someone who's had such enormous success as you have still not denying
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> You continue to be an inspiration - I wish I could meet you IRL :)
> janice

Janice, I would love to meet you in real life too! I think we would have lots to talk
about! :-) And yes it's true that it hasn't been easy -- some days are easier than
others -- but being fat was much much much harder, physically--but more important
psychologically--for me. It was the one thing in my life that that I couldn't do and
it just absolutely drove me nuts. Now these last few pounds are being especially
stubborn, but that will only get me in the right frame for maintenance, eh? :-)
Thanks so much for your nice post.

Mary
Angie - 20 Nov 2003 15:30 GMT
> Angie, I am so happy for you! We have a common weight history -- I was overweight
> since childhood, reached 325 lbs, and am now 149-150 with about 5-10 left to lose. I
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> Mary M
> 325-150-145

That is awesome, Mary!  It is always an inspiration to see others who have
similar stories to tell.  Thank you so much for sharing this.  : )
 
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