Hello to all,
First, I'd like to thank you for your warm reception, it gave me a
warm fuzzy feeling inside to see that people actually want to help =)
I am going to do my best to integrate your advice into my routine.
It's amazing to see how easy it is to rack up 300 grams of carbs
everyday!! However, keeping them under 200 is easier than I thought:
for the past week, I cut the orange juice down to a small glass in the
morning. Drinking water is easier when I drink a couple cups of coffee
or after a long run in the subway (it's soooo hot down there even in
winter!), and I transformed my highest carb meal into a treat every
morning: breakfast!! I actually look forward to getting out of bed
*quickly* now.
As for protein -- I've upped my intake of protein from 10% to around
20-25%, and intend on getting it higher, however difficult it seems
for now.
This brings me to my second question... I'm not really attracted to
the idea of protein shakes, and even though I might start using
protein powder in my recipes, I'd like it better if I could get the
protein from natural sources, i.e.: meat, nuts, beans etc.
But most of these foods also pack a high fat contents. It made me
wonder: what's a good fat % in a healthy diet? While I agree that "as
low as possible" is a good rule of thumb, is 30% a good maximum or
should I bring that down to 25 or even 20?
What I'm trying to do here is keep the carbs low and ramp up the
proteins as high as I can. If I have to trade, though, would it be
best for me to get more fat % or carb % for the rest of my calorie
intake?
Thanks a lot! This is one interesting group.
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Falfien
Ignoramus967 - 17 Nov 2003 00:36 GMT
> This brings me to my second question... I'm not really attracted to
> the idea of protein shakes, and even though I might start using
I am happy to hear it.
> protein powder in my recipes, I'd like it better if I could get the
> protein from natural sources, i.e.: meat, nuts, beans etc.
> But most of these foods also pack a high fat contents. It made me
That is a myth. A lot of meats do not pack a lot of fat. Example: beef
tenderloin (expensive, good for grilling), eye of round roast
(moderately priced), chichen breast, pork loin, etc.
Many meats that do have fat, can be cleaned of fat with a knife before
cooking.
Eggs do not have much fat, egg whites have none.
> wonder: what's a good fat % in a healthy diet? While I agree that "as
> low as possible" is a good rule of thumb, is 30% a good maximum or
> should I bring that down to 25 or even 20?
Do not worry too much about it, that's all I can say. Unless you eat
in some extreme manner, your fat percentage would be reasonable. Try
to ensure that a good proportion of fat comes from plants such as nuts
and seed oils and fish.
> What I'm trying to do here is keep the carbs low and ramp up the
> proteins as high as I can. If I have to trade, though, would it be
> best for me to get more fat % or carb % for the rest of my calorie
> intake?
Are you trying to create your own "low carb" regimen where weight
falls off automatically if you limit carbs?
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Falfien - 17 Nov 2003 09:09 GMT
>Do not worry too much about it, that's all I can say. Unless you eat
>in some extreme manner, your fat percentage would be reasonable. Try
>to ensure that a good proportion of fat comes from plants such as nuts
>and seed oils and fish.
Thanks for the advice! =)
>> What I'm trying to do here is keep the carbs low and ramp up the
>> proteins as high as I can. If I have to trade, though, would it be
>> best for me to get more fat % or carb % for the rest of my calorie
>> intake?
>Are you trying to create your own "low carb" regimen where weight
>falls off automatically if you limit carbs?
Nope. I'm trying to get used to getting most of my calories from
protein, since I understand those are most important when you're
training. In January I'll be visiting a gym at least twice a week in
addition to my other physical activity.
What I want to know is where it'd be best to get the remaining,
non-protein calories from. Fat or carbs? 50/50?
Regardless, I'm not going to eliminate carbs 100%-- I have no
intention of going on an Atkins diet. I love my bread and OJ too much
to see them disappear completely. (for now, at least. Maybe I'll
change my mind in a few years.)
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Falfien
Beverly - 17 Nov 2003 13:21 GMT
> Hello to all,
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> low as possible" is a good rule of thumb, is 30% a good maximum or
> should I bring that down to 25 or even 20?
I add the protein powder and ground flax seed to my oatmeal for breakfast.
I find it helps me with my protein %. Ocassionaly I'll make a shake from
it using frozen fruit, ice and skim milk. I like this instead of oatmeal
for breakfast when I'm at home.
As long as you make healthy choices for the carbs and fats I wouldn't be
too worried about letting the fat % go as high as 30. I used to keep my
fat percentage very low but find I'm not as hungry and still able to lose
weight at the higher percentages.
Beverly
> What I'm trying to do here is keep the carbs low and ramp up the
> proteins as high as I can. If I have to trade, though, would it be
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> Falfien
Perple Gyrl - 14 Nov 2003 08:17 GMT
You can also take Omega oils to help give you a little healthy fat. Fish
oil helps keep the gall bladder clean. I take generic Sam's fish oil 2-3x a
day. Sam's ranked very high on consumer reports. One pill has 10 fat
calories.
--
Email me at:
perpleglow(AT)comcast.net
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> > Falfien
Brad Sheppard - 17 Nov 2003 20:22 GMT
30% is the AHA's guideline but if the fats are healthy (olive oil,
fish oil) it may be ok to go higher. See
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fats.html Oftentimes my
meals are over 50% fat - but good fats. Olive oil on crispbreads.
Salmon. Peanut butter and oatmeal. Also check out Harvard's warning
on too much protein in your diet. If you don't have kidney problems it
seems okay, but you should read Harvard's take on it:
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein.html
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> > Falfien
Wendy - 17 Nov 2003 15:16 GMT
> As for protein -- I've upped my intake of protein from 10% to around
> 20-25%, and intend on getting it higher, however difficult it seems
> for now.
I add protein and fat to my oatmeal each morning. I either put in some
flaxseed or a teaspoon of natural peanutbutter for the fat, and for the
protein I add protein powder. (Chocolate with the peanutbutter, vanilla
if I'm adding flax and dehydrated blueberries.)
I also have a meal replacement protein shake for my 4:00 snack/meal. I
love the Myoplex Lite brand (all flavors but the "rich dark chocolate" but
I especially love the Cappacino Ice flavor) and buy them online at
www.vitaglo.com. Some people object to the sugar replacements in them but
I like them.
Sometimes I eat a bar for my snack/meal around then: I like the Balance
bars. Avoid the "energy" bars, "energy" means "carbs" in the advertising
lingo.
> This brings me to my second question... I'm not really attracted to
> the idea of protein shakes, and even though I might start using
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> low as possible" is a good rule of thumb, is 30% a good maximum or
> should I bring that down to 25 or even 20?
Ah, how to get lean protein. Always an issue. Besides the above tips I
can tell you that egg whites are a good source and so is canned
tuna and lowfat dairy like cottage cheese. Beans are mostly carbs and
nuts are mostly fat although they do contain protein.
I try to keep my fat intake below 30% but it sometimes gets as high as 33%
without me feeling like I ate all that much fat. I find I feel deprived
now if I go below 25% fat (although I lived on a very low fat diet for
many years. Got fat on it, in fact.)
> What I'm trying to do here is keep the carbs low and ramp up the
> proteins as high as I can. If I have to trade, though, would it be
> best for me to get more fat % or carb % for the rest of my calorie
> intake?
Aim for balance. If you land at 33% of each you're in the right
ballpark. I aim for 45% carb 30% protein and 25% fat but rarely hit it on
the nail. It takes practice to see what mix fits your lifestyle and your
body: it's MUCH more important that you feel sated and energetic and not
craving food than you hit some arbitrary percentages.
Wendy
determined - 17 Nov 2003 16:44 GMT
> Hello to all,
>
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> best for me to get more fat % or carb % for the rest of my calorie
> intake?
In my opinion, protein intake should be somewhere around .5g - 1g per lb of
bodyweight. So, if I rememeber correctly you're about 180? So that's
90-180 g of protein. Fat should be no more than 30% and from healthy
sources like nuts, avacados, etc. Carbs should probably not account for
more than 40-50% of your diet.
Easy lowfat protein sources include lowfat cottage cheese, tuna, chicken
breast, other fish, lean cuts of meat, etc.
det
A Ross - 17 Nov 2003 20:04 GMT
> Hello to all,
SNIP
> What I'm trying to do here is keep the carbs low and ramp up the
> proteins as high as I can. If I have to trade, though, would it be
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> Falfien
My nutrition for todaybreaks down to 31% fat, 30 % carb, and 33%
protein. It's a pretty typical day.
Most of my protein comes from Low-fat cottage cheese, tuna in
water (I eat three to five cans a week), legumes, and a lean
protein source for dinner--tonight it's a ground turkey patty on
top of my usual dinner salad. I'm consuming 117 grams of protein
today.
I was using a soy-based protein powder for a bit, but the RD
recommended that I try to get more protein from food-based
sources rather than a supplement. Since I wasn't that hot on the
powder anyway, I used switched to eating an ounce of hard cheese
before my workout, or having a larger protein serving at dinner.
Find something that works for you and that you're willing to
stick with, and go from there.
Amy