Weight Loss Forum / General Topics / July 2005
Scientists discover new weapon against obesity
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jpark@oakspringwinery.com - 27 Jul 2005 03:20 GMT Hi all, I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication for obese people made from a digestive hormone in the small intestine that cause one to feel full. So, the medication works by convincing your body that you feel full. It's still in the early stages of development, but it's something to keep your eye out for. It's called oxyntomodulin and studies have been done giving injections of it to obese people, which have been pretty effective. Has anyone else heard about this?
http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/1350/31//new_medication_obesity.html
-Jason
Dally - 27 Jul 2005 06:29 GMT > Hi all, > I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Jason So, if you stab yourself with an injection three times a day you will be able to reduce your calorie load by 10%?
Why not just eat less and exercise more?
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Crafting Mom - 27 Jul 2005 12:39 GMT > Why not just eat less and exercise more? Sounds like a good idea. I don't consider it "progress" when yet another gimmick comes out which seemingly supports unhealthy habits.
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Ignoramus23077 - 27 Jul 2005 14:50 GMT >> Why not just eat less and exercise more? > > Sounds like a good idea. I don't consider it "progress" when yet another > gimmick comes out which seemingly supports unhealthy habits. Hm, if anything, that substance supposedly does make people "eat less". That, as such, is hardly unhealthy. It may have side effects that I am not aware of, but its intended effect is not unhealthy. It does not make people gorge on food and lose weight.
My own expectation is that this drug will not work for people in the long run. There are many pathways regulating hunger. Disabling just one does not work very well. All kinds of short term effects have been shown for all kinds of interventions, but long term effect is what we really need.
Nice to see you CM, how have you been?
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Crafting Mom - 27 Jul 2005 15:53 GMT > Nice to see you CM, how have you been? Great! Permanently off sugar and caffeine. Eating a natural diet consistently for the last 2 months and have lost 20 pounds. No cravings for anything unhealthy whatsoever.
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Patricia Heil - 28 Jul 2005 01:53 GMT >>> Why not just eat less and exercise more? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Nice to see you CM, how have you been? True, and eating less doesn't necessarily mean good nutrition. How many people have posted here early in their participation asking what's the difference between a snack of 100 calories of [name that junk food] and 100 calories of [name that healthy food]?
Ignoramus27279 - 29 Jul 2005 18:41 GMT >>>> Why not just eat less and exercise more? >>> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > True, and eating less doesn't necessarily mean good nutrition. How many Well, yes, but that's a separate question.
> people have posted here early in their participation asking what's the > difference between a snack of 100 calories of [name that junk food] and 100 > calories of [name that healthy food]? Well, sure, but it is hardly the fault of the medication that we are discussing.
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Aspiring Tortoise - 27 Jul 2005 14:18 GMT > > Hi all, > > I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > obese people, which have been pretty effective. Has anyone else heard > > about this? http://health.dailynewscentral.com/content/view/1350/31//new_medicatio n_obesity.html
> So, if you stab yourself with an injection three times a day you will be > able to reduce your calorie load by 10%? > > Why not just eat less and exercise more? That's the point: stab yourself with an injection three times daily and you will eat less. I'd be interested to know your thoughts about insulin treatment for diabetics. -- Matthew Slow and steady wins the race.
Patricia Heil - 28 Jul 2005 01:52 GMT >> > Hi all, >> > I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Matthew > Slow and steady wins the race. When there's another way to treat child onset diabetes, come back and talk to us.
janice - 27 Jul 2005 07:04 GMT >Hi all, >I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >obese people, which have been pretty effective. Has anyone else heard >about this? It was widely reported here in the UK earlier in the week. I'm sceptical about this. I don't know that many people will be prepared to inject themselves regularly. Also, I suspect people who overeat seriously are likely to carry on eating after their stomach tells them they're full anyway (I speak from experience here), and I think many people won't want to give up eating the calorie dense food and big meals that they are used to having.
To me it's like weight loss surgery or liposuction - you may lose some weight, but if you haven't changed in your head it isn't really worth doing. Having said that, I don't doubt it could help some morbidly obese people.
janice
Beverly - 27 Jul 2005 13:18 GMT > >Hi all, > >I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > janice I agree 100%. It seems many are always looking for that 'magic pill' that will cure their weight problems. They seem to overlook the fact that most are temporary and don't teach them how to maintain that weight loss.
I've always been afraid of unknown long-term problems and other side effects from these types of medications. It seems like we hear more and more of unknown health risks from many of the modern day miracle drugs. I'm thankful my doctor believes that old fashioned diet and exercise prevents many problems such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure, etc.
Beverly
Carol Frilegh - 27 Jul 2005 14:19 GMT > > >Hi all, > > >I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication > > >for obese people made from a digestive hormone You know there is a certain joy, sense of empowerment and accomplishment in mastering eating habits and exercise. learning about good nutrition and meeting a physical challenge. It all leads to improved mental well being in addition to the physical benefits in my opinion.
Losing and maintaining a substantial weight loss and practicing fitness as made me very fit for my age despite some health challenges and I am a creative cook but stress convenience, simplicity and quality food. My meals are also colorful and appetizing and that increases satisfaction.
Being human, sigh.. I am vulnerable to appetite fluctuations and occasional binges, but make a big effort to get back on track quickly. I find using Fitday very helpful. It's my best "reality show."
Diet aids are like training wheels. Someday they have to be removed!
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FHBETTINA@aol.com - 31 Jul 2005 13:34 GMT > > > >Hi all, > > > >I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Diet aids are like training wheels. Someday they have to be removed! FHBETTINA@aol.com - 31 Jul 2005 14:02 GMT Carol--Diva,
Couldn't agree with you more ...
[Hello. I am back. (I know... It has been a long time.)]
I remember when the effects of leptin had been discovered and people were running around exclaiming to me, "Here's hope for you ...!"
[I was weighing more than 75 pounds at the time more than I do now; but ,deep down, with my self-image at the time--which no amount of careful makeup/hair styling could seem to counterbalance--I was always, consistently, treated as if I were weighing far more ...]
I was exercising aerobically practically every day for over an hour and a half; I did not control my calorie count and I had been under a lot of stress as well. My weight may have been high, but it was STABLE. As was my sense of self.
I shot back--"You talk like you have never been fat!", "You think you understand what motivates me!" "I am much too old for this!" "I earned this fat, any stretch marks, and would earn any weight loss (if ever)!"
One sympathetic woman in the group got alarmed at my "outbursts" and told me about her experiences of living in a foreign country where fat women are accepted and considered attractive by men ...
Well, that's a start ...
I understand the need for the research and the implications of the findings, too.
But how condescending of anybody to think that all fat people are motivated by the search for...or, worse yet, the hope for ... a magic bullet ..!
Tina 220ish/140/140 Fifty and Fabulous! Maintaining since November of 2003 [I know, it hasn't been 2 years yet. This is why I came back. "It's not second nature."]
> > > >Hi all, > > > >I read an article on health.dailynewscentral.com about a new medication [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Diet aids are like training wheels. Someday they have to be removed!
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