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Cp - 18 Nov 2003 12:53 GMT After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total gym) on Monday, Wednesday and Friday and then some sort of cardio on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday.
Here's the Q.. well actually, a few Q's.
Q1. Does that sound like a plan that will work to get into better physical condition (and yes I know, any exercise, whenever I do it will help but I'm talking about making a substantial difference)
Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify?
Cp
jmk - 18 Nov 2003 13:16 GMT > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Cp Gosh, Cp, I think that you'll get a lot of opinions about this. For me, it has to be something that I enjoy more than anything else. I mean, there are exercise routines that might be better for me but the one that I acutally do is the one that is best :-) So, does this sound like something that you would enjoy? If so, go for it! I know that strength training several times a week is good. I have read something about spacing the use of each muscle group but 48 hours (det will be able to comment on that more intelligently!) so every other day sounds good.
One other question for you to think about, what is your contingency plan? I mean, if you go need to go out of town for work or you have a hockey game or something that night, what will you do? For me, having a backup plan helps :-)
Good luck!
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Cp - 18 Nov 2003 21:10 GMT > > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > > can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > -- > jmk in NC I haven't got a contigency plan but that was the whole idea in the first place. To find a time of day with as little "excuses" as possible (like the "can't do it at night, I'm too tired, can't do it in the afternoon, I volunteer for 2 a week, etc.) We finally decided on early morning (7am for cardio days, 9:30am for strength training).
jmk - 19 Nov 2003 13:35 GMT >>>After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > volunteer for 2 a week, etc.) We finally decided on early morning (7am for > cardio days, 9:30am for strength training). Well, sometimes I have to travel for work (overnight) and that's why I need a backup plan (shift to a different schedule, stay at a hotel that has exercise equipment, etc.). In addition, on weekends I exercise outside. That means the gym is my backup plan if weather does not permit outdoor activity.
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Cp - 19 Nov 2003 15:05 GMT > > I haven't got a contigency plan but that was the whole idea in the first > > place. To find a time of day with as little "excuses" as possible (like the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > jmk in NC We (my sister and I) picked a time that was consistently free of interuption. We haven't thought much about backup plans because there aren't any in the foreseable (sp??) future. Life is pretty consistent around here from Monday to Friday. Saturday is a day of "don't know" which is why we scheduled it to be our "day off". Sunday is going to be a 2hr walk, rain or shine. If that doesn't work out then it's not a big deal to skip it for a week or so. The M-F was more important to get regular.
Ignoramus4244 - 18 Nov 2003 14:00 GMT > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > condition (and yes I know, any exercise, whenever I do it will help but I'm > talking about making a substantial difference) Whether this plan will help you depends on quantity of time spent.
20 minutes per day will not give you much, although it would be better than doing nothing.
> Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every > day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify? This applies to athletes who train very hard. A typical dude going for 1 hour walks or 20 minute runs could as well do it every day. With strength training though, you do benefit from giving yourself 1-2 days of rest per week.
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> Cp Cp - 18 Nov 2003 21:13 GMT > > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > > can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > 20 minutes per day will not give you much, although it would be better > than doing nothing. Cardio will be 30-45 minutes, ST will be is currently at 30 minutes but I'll be adding exercises to make it more like 45-60 minutes.
> > Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every > > day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > Cp Beverly - 18 Nov 2003 15:21 GMT > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > condition (and yes I know, any exercise, whenever I do it will help but I'm > talking about making a substantial difference) Sounds like a good plan, cp. You might want to consider a day of rest or at least some form of light exercise one day a week.
Beverly
> Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every > day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify? > > Cp Cp - 18 Nov 2003 21:15 GMT > > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine > that I [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Beverly Saturday is my day off or light day. Haven't decided which and I probably never will. I'll just take it one weekend at a time. :)
Jayjay - 18 Nov 2003 15:37 GMT >After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I >can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >condition (and yes I know, any exercise, whenever I do it will help but I'm >talking about making a substantial difference) 3 days of a good full body workout is fully sufficient.
>Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every >day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify? The key is to not over do it to the point of burnout. Many of us have faced burnout and its really a struggle to keep going once you hit that stage, or to get back on track once you take a break.
Right now, I'm struggling. After 12 weeks of 4 days a week bootcamp, plus some weekend warrior cardio, I took a break. That was 3 weeks ago, and to motivate myself to get back to a routine of some sort is not working. The alarm goes off in the mornings, I turn it off. I get home in the evenings and I'm too whiped to have the energy to workout, or there's just too many other things to do to get to the workout.
The key is finding a balance. And finding a comfort zone you can work with.
Cp - 18 Nov 2003 21:18 GMT > >After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > >can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > 3 days of a good full body workout is fully sufficient. Cool :)
> >Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every > >day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The key is finding a balance. And finding a comfort zone you can work > with. Yes and I slowly learned that. My biggest challenge was time. There was never (or rather I never chose) a consistent time to work out.
determined - 18 Nov 2003 16:35 GMT > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that I > can actually stick to. My thoughts are for strength training (via the total [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Q2. I remember something about cardio not being as effective if done every > day, but I also remember some exceptions to that rule. Can anyone clarify? I think cardio can be done every day, but you shouldn't work the same muscle in weight training 2 days in a row, to give it time to repair the muscle. I currently do a full body workout MWF, and don't do cardio - until ski season opens that is! If I were more ambitious, I would do cardio on Tu-Th, and take the weekend off. Your body does need some time to rest too, for best results.
det
Cp - 18 Nov 2003 21:27 GMT > > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine that > I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > det I've got about 20 exercises and I have yet to figure out what combos to use. I'll aim for about 15 every other day. Saturday is my day off and Sunday is a 2hr walk.
And pardon me if this is an idiotic question.. but what is MWF?
determined - 18 Nov 2003 21:30 GMT > > > After much delay I'm finally trying to put together a workout routine > that [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > And pardon me if this is an idiotic question.. but what is MWF? monday, wednesday, friday
and what are the 20 exercises you do? You need to group them by the muscle group worked ie - back, chest, legs - or do a push/pull routine on alternate days. If you list what you're doing, maybe I can help...
det
Cp - 19 Nov 2003 00:22 GMT > > And pardon me if this is an idiotic question.. but what is MWF?
> monday, wednesday, friday I knew it was going to be a "DUH" :)
> and what are the 20 exercises you do? You need to group them by the muscle > group worked ie - back, chest, legs - or do a push/pull routine on alternate > days. If you list what you're doing, maybe I can help... > > det THANKS!!!! That would be greatly appreciated. All the stuff I do is on the total gym but I think they can be translated into gym equipment moves. I also added what muscles they say it works
I'll first give you the list I was doing. All are 2 sets of 12 reps.
Arm pullovers (lying flat on back, pull arms over head uses a pulley) *shoulders, upper back, triceps upper abs, chest* Butterfly (sitting, pulling arms from behind to front) *front shoulders, chest, biceps, abs Seated Row (self explanatory I guess) *upper back, trapezius, biceps* Ab Crunches Tricep pulls (lying flat on back, arms bent in front, extend down) *triceps, forearms* Tricep dips (similar to when you do them on a ledge) *chest, shoulders, triceps* Pull ups (similar to what you would do on a pull up bar) *upper back, shoulders, biceps* Stretch (stretching to touch toes while sitting) *hamstrings, lower back* Squats (done without the machine, freestanding)
These are the exercises that I plan to add
Pullover Reach (lying flat on back, pull one arm over head and touch alternate knee) *chest, lats, triceps* Inner thigh stretch (use pulley to do leg lifts) *inner thigh, hamstrings, hips* Wrist curls (same as regular) Swimmer (lying on stomach, pull arms out to side) *lats, shoulders, arms* Leg raises (sit ups, but pulling lower body toward head instead) *lower abs* Reverse Hip/Thigh Extensions (sort of like a frog leap but supported) *abs, butt* Peak Concentration Curls (lying on back, arms above head, bring hands down to nape of neck) *biceps* Rear deltoid raise (lying on front, arms in front, pull arms down and in towards side) *rear shoulder, triceps* Rear Deltoid unilateral (on knees, pull one arm behind you while twisting) *shoulders, back* Tennis Serve ( lying on back, arms over head, pull one arm down and across chest) *shoulders, arms, lats* Abdominal push (lying down, legs bent, arms straight out in front, do a crunch) *upper abs* Surfer (kneeling in leap frog position, straighten and pull arms toward you) *lower and upper back, shoulders* Pulley Ab Crunch (bend arms in front of you, knees bent, do a crunch) *upper and lower abs* Toe raises (like traditional) *calves, ankles* Side Bends (lying flat, bend to one side) *obliques, side abs, lower back*
I focus mainly on upper body and abs because anything below that, especially my legs, are already pretty muscular. I do a little bit at least just to make sure I keep that muscle. The squats are the best for that I find.
Anyhow, sorry it's lengthy but I hope it was enough detail. I'm anxious to hear your thoughts and opinions.
Cp.
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