Matthew (Aspiring Tortise) inquired about a couple of things and I
thought I'd elaborate for those who were interested.
First, the physician I am seeing is an Family Practice MD who
specializes in weight loss. She has a dietician that works with her in
helping patients, so the Dr. is NOT the dietician. They are separate
people but work close together.
As for the dietician's plan, I am alloted 9 units of carbs (4
breads/starches, 3 fruits and 2 dairy):
Each unit of carbs for the bread/starches are to be approx. 80 calories
and have 15g of carbs. So this is things like 1.2 of a sweet potato, 1
slice of regular bread (2 slices of "diet" bread), 1/2 burger bun, 1/2 C
pasta, etc.....
Each fruit unit is 60 calories per exchange. So, it's 1 apple, 1 small
banana, 2 plums, 12 fresh cherries, 1 orange, 1/2 grapefruit, etc...
Each dairy unit is 9-100 calories per exchange. So that's 1C skim/1%
milk, 1Cyogurt, 1/2 C reduced fat pudding, 1/2 red fat frozen yogurt or
ice cream, etc....
It's actually quite a bit of food but it really forces me to be more
balanced. That's definitely something I wasn't before and probably
about 80% of my diet was carbs!
And then the rest of the plan consists of 9 oz lean protein, unlimited
vegetables and 3 units of fat (1/8 avacado, 1T peanut butter, 1 tsp veg.
oil, 1 tsp butter, etc...)
Hope that helps!
Mary
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Nunya B. - 28 Jul 2005 23:40 GMT
> Matthew (Aspiring Tortise) inquired about a couple of things and I
> thought I'd elaborate for those who were interested.
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> vegetables and 3 units of fat (1/8 avacado, 1T peanut butter, 1 tsp veg.
> oil, 1 tsp butter, etc...)
Just curious, would a veggie burger count as a protein or a veggie? I've
been given both answers by different dieticians.
Your meal plan sounds very balanced and leaves room for a lot of choice. In
the past my DH and I were on a similar plan and did very well. We ended up
getting way off track on vacation and never went back on.
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Nunya B. - 28 Jul 2005 23:40 GMT
> Matthew (Aspiring Tortise) inquired about a couple of things and I
> thought I'd elaborate for those who were interested.
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> vegetables and 3 units of fat (1/8 avacado, 1T peanut butter, 1 tsp veg.
> oil, 1 tsp butter, etc...)
Just curious, would a veggie burger count as a protein or a veggie? I've
been given both answers by different dieticians.
Your meal plan sounds very balanced and leaves room for a lot of choice. In
the past my DH and I were on a similar plan and did very well. We ended up
getting way off track on vacation and never went back on.
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Aspiring Tortoise - 29 Jul 2005 13:21 GMT
> Just curious, would a veggie burger count as a protein or a veggie? I've
> been given both answers by different dieticians.
This is kind of the direction I was going with my question about the bread
servings. I was thinking specifically about beans. It looks to me you would
classify both beans and veggie burgers as a lean protein, especially since
she is allotted an unlimited amount of vegetables. Nuts, I assume, would be
a fat.

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Ignoramus27279 - 29 Jul 2005 14:00 GMT
>> Just curious, would a veggie burger count as a protein or a veggie? I've
>> been given both answers by different dieticians.
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> she is allotted an unlimited amount of vegetables. Nuts, I assume, would be
> a fat.
I would rather classify beans as carbs: a serving of beans has 29 net
carbs and only 15 grams of protein. Much more carbs than protein, so
there is no logical way to classify them as protein.
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s03ew.html

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Aspiring Tortoise - 29 Jul 2005 14:17 GMT
> >> Just curious, would a veggie burger count as a protein or a veggie? I've
> >> been given both answers by different dieticians.
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>
> http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s03ew.html
Looking back over Mary's post you are certainly right. A cup of beans
would be 2-3 "bread" servings and the equivalent of 2oz of lean
protein.
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Ignoramus27279 - 29 Jul 2005 18:41 GMT
>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:21:55 -0600, Aspiring Tortoise
><aspiringtortoise@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> would be 2-3 "bread" servings and the equivalent of 2oz of lean
> protein.
That, I would agree with...

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Carol Frilegh - 29 Jul 2005 15:05 GMT
> I would rather classify beans as carbs: a serving of beans has 29 net
> carbs and only 15 grams of protein. Much more carbs than protein, so
> there is no logical way to classify them as protein.
Legumes are an important source of vegetable protein and I think that
should be a consideration despite the carb ratio if one is a vegeatrian
dieter.

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Ignoramus27279 - 29 Jul 2005 18:42 GMT
>> I would rather classify beans as carbs: a serving of beans has 29 net
>> carbs and only 15 grams of protein. Much more carbs than protein, so
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> should be a consideration despite the carb ratio if one is a vegeatrian
> dieter.
Sure, but they should not count as protein only...

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Janie - 29 Jul 2005 19:56 GMT
> >> I would rather classify beans as carbs: a serving of beans has 29 net
> >> carbs and only 15 grams of protein. Much more carbs than protein, so
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>
> Sure, but they should not count as protein only...
The diet that I am using counts 1/2 cup of beans (black, kidney, garbanzo,
etc.) as 1 protein serving AND 1 bread/starch.
Nunya B. - 29 Jul 2005 20:22 GMT
>> Just curious, would a veggie burger count as a protein or a veggie? I've
>> been given both answers by different dieticians.
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> since she is allotted an unlimited amount of vegetables. Nuts, I assume,
> would be a fat.
I had always been told that beans were a starch as were potatoes so they
would not be in the "unlmited" category. I was thinking of Boca burgers
which are primarily soy. Personally I count them as a lean protein but I
did have a dietician tell me that soy burgers would count as a vegetable but
not an unlimited one.

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Ignoramus9394 - 29 Jul 2005 05:28 GMT
> Matthew (Aspiring Tortise) inquired about a couple of things and I
> thought I'd elaborate for those who were interested.
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> vegetables and 3 units of fat (1/8 avacado, 1T peanut butter, 1 tsp veg.
> oil, 1 tsp butter, etc...)
Are carby vegetables such as potatoes, carrots, beets etc allowed in
those "unlimited vegetables"?
i
> Hope that helps!
> Mary
>
> Mary M / Wisconsin
> 283.2/273.4/150ish
> Lost 4.8 lbs my first week (started 7/19/05) and am on my way!

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Aspiring Tortoise - 29 Jul 2005 13:19 GMT
> Matthew (Aspiring Tortise) inquired about a couple of things and I
> thought I'd elaborate for those who were interested.
Your post did clear up some questions I had. Looks like a good program;
something I don't recall you discussing is exercise. It isn't absolutely
necessary, but is very helpful especially when it comes time to maintain.
What activities do you think you might enjoy doing?

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